+LS650 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I just want to say that in my case, the communication from Harmlesslion has been stellar. Fantastic! Thanks, guys, for working so hard to put out a great item for the Jaguar community. You guys rock!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcat Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Same here. At first I didn't get a reservation e-mail. I was worried, so I asked and recieved the confirmation e-mail. While I can't speak for Tursi, and I don't know the whole situation, I do know what it means to release a product. I do believe Tursi and KSkunk set up the preorder page and the ordering system for a good reason. I think it is amazing how many orders they can process in such a short time. Keep in mind that they do it all as their HOBBY. Not as a fulltime job and not for a living. Reading that there are preorder numbers of over 160... Some maybe even with mutiple boards... It must be a LOAD of work to manage that in such a short time. I just recently sent my payment and can't wait to get my hands on the board to finally get some code done again. I had to switch to Project Tempest for a while, but it just doesn't replace a real Jag. It leaves a lot of work, due to the differences to the real hardware. So, can't wait Keep up the good work, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belboz Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Tursi is a good guy. One of the best. If he said you never registered you didn't. Lets assume either you didn't or there was some glitch. vi is correct that you should have received the email confirmation. It was clearly stated. Everyone on here and JSII was posting their reservation number. So that should have been your first clue. Plus Tursi giving you two separate chances to get on the list seems more than fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipj Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Same here. At first I didn't get a reservation e-mail. I was worried, so I asked and recieved the confirmation e-mail. While I can't speak for Tursi, and I don't know the whole situation, I do know what it means to release a product. I do believe Tursi and KSkunk set up the preorder page and the ordering system for a good reason. I think it is amazing how many orders they can process in such a short time. Keep in mind that they do it all as their HOBBY. Not as a fulltime job and not for a living. Reading that there are preorder numbers of over 160... Some maybe even with mutiple boards... It must be a LOAD of work to manage that in such a short time. I just recently sent my payment and can't wait to get my hands on the board to finally get some code done again. I had to switch to Project Tempest for a while, but it just doesn't replace a real Jag. It leaves a lot of work, due to the differences to the real hardware. So, can't wait Keep up the good work, folks. It's whorth the wait... I just sent my payment in yesterday, but I also have the first Skunkboard he released. It's a solid product so the second boards should be even better then the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Tursi and KSkunk have done a fantastic job. Thank you guys for providing something so awesome to the Jag community. The Skunkboard is going to be an important component within the Jaguar community (especially for developers) for as long as a Jaguar community remains. You guys have created a great product and I hope you guys will continue to provide your talents as your time warrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kskunk Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Reading that there are preorder numbers of over 160... Some maybe even with mutiple boards... It must be a LOAD of work to manage that in such a short time. I'm glad somebody appreciates the logistics! Every night I work 3 hours on board programming, testing, burn-in, cutting labels, folding boxes, printing mailing labels, filling out customs forms... Each morning I go to work with a 13 gallon bag full of mail to drop off at the post office. About half the orders are overseas and require signed customs declarations which take forever to fill out. Tursi is spending at least as much time every night answering PMs and e-mails. And of course this has been going on for months while software and hardware was designed and tested, contracts were negotiated with suppliers. Just setting up the supply chain and getting through production took months with weekly phone calls and e-mails. There's no profit in making Skunkboards, we're just doing it to try to grow the Jaguar community and hopefully get a few more games developed or betas released. Fortunately most people here are crazy enough to understand why we do it... We are crazy fans, not Amazon.com. - KS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 The remaining orders, through 168, have been sent out for payment. All orders 139 and above not yet paid are past their 3 day, so if it comes to a choice, orders 140-168 will get precedence (for the next three days). Any last minute or second chance boards (PM me if you like, no promises that there will be any at all) will not even be looked at until we are satisfied that all reservations are either filled, or are not coming. They will be privately addressed only, this is the last public shipping post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 We are crazy fans, not Amazon.com. You guys definitely are crazy, and it is definitely appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzer Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Payment sent. Order 164 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Tursi and Kskunk are AWESOME! Thanks guys,very much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovalbugmann Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Out of curiosity, back when reservations were taken (yeah, it's been a while) why did you not question the absence of a confirmation e-mail?It was clearly stated that people would get a confirmation e-mail after filling in the correct information and submitting it. Personally, if I hadn't received one, I would have PMd Tursi within 48 hours to either confirm that it went through and request a 2nd confirmation e-mail get sent or find out it hadn't gone through and re-submit my reservation. That's what ummsayin'YO If after filling in the pre-order request form and within freaking minutes I didn't get my confirmation email so I could SAVE IT in my email archives, I would have been on the frackin' PM system at both sites until I got an answer asking why and if I should fill in the form again to get on the list with an order #. I'd imagine he would have shown Tursi the confirmation email, if he had it in his possession(spam folder maybe?). It must have not been high the priority list to knowthe whereabouts of this important email. When it comes to Atari for me, although I grew up with a 2600, it's Jaguar first and formost for consuming my free time and all other Atari's after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Fortunately most people here are crazy enough to understand why we do it... We are crazy fans, not Amazon.com. But you know, even Amazon.com probably started as SOHO Btw, many thanks to both of you for your involvement in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannibalCat Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 The remaining orders, through 168, have been sent out for payment. All orders 139 and above not yet paid are past their 3 day, so if it comes to a choice, orders 140-168 will get precedence (for the next three days). Any last minute or second chance boards (PM me if you like, no promises that there will be any at all) will not even be looked at until we are satisfied that all reservations are either filled, or are not coming. They will be privately addressed only, this is the last public shipping post. Cheers to both Tursi and KSkunk for making all this possible! You can see it is done purely as a labor of love... and it is appreciated greatly. Thanks again guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonner242 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Payment sent yesterday for #145...HOOORAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Tursi and Kskunk are AWESOME! Thanks guys,very much appreciated! I second that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonner242 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Just wondering, do you guys send out payment/delivery confirmations once paid? Just wanna make sur Im not missing anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 Yes, I'll send you an email when I process your payment (I stopped answering the "I paid" emails that accompany most payments unless they had special terms ). If you don't have one, PM me your email address, order number, and name, and I'll check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wolfe Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I don't even know what number I could be, much less if the number came up. Communication has been low. I'm happy to wait my turn, and pay as soon as it is my turn. However, if I don't know if I'm even standing in the line. AX I've answered every one of the five PMs you have sent me the same way - you don't have a reservation, therefore you don't have a reservation number. You never preordered, you never filled in the form, you did not reserve. Reservation, you not have. No reservation have you. You, reservation not had. Reservation(the.golden.ax)==NULL. "Communication has been low". The only thing low here is what you're writing about me in public. I do not understand your attitude Tursi. It seems that GA was one of the first people to ask for a skunkboard here on AA that was not apparently signed up for one and you and skunk have already made it known pretty early on that people have given their place up in line, you sure know for a fact that I gave up mine on Monday so why not just assign him a spot that someone else gave up rather than string him along like you have? Did he not beg or grovel enough for you? I read his post as asking to know if he is in line for a spot that was given up, not as you read it, as some maligning comment on you. I have known Golden Ax a long time and his reputation around here is stellar. He's one of the good guys and yet you felt the need to drag him through the mud publicly just because he wanted to give you money. I have to say now that my conversations with you via e-mail earlier in the week left me feeling that I wanted nothing to do with anything you are involved with. I asked you for an extra TWO DAYS to get money together and you read the "rules" back to me as if you were running a government cheese line or the god damned DMV. Had I known that my friend needed a place in line I surely would have given him my spot rather than having an argument via e-mail with you. If anyone here actually knew the way you treated long standing members of AA who had a little trouble, you'd be ridden out of here on a rail. When a CUSTOMER who's only goal is to GIVE YOU MONEY, you do not treat them like a child, you treat them with respect and compassion for their trouble even if you refuse to change your stupid rules to compensate a little here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I don't even know what number I could be, much less if the number came up. Communication has been low. I'm happy to wait my turn, and pay as soon as it is my turn. However, if I don't know if I'm even standing in the line. AX I've answered every one of the five PMs you have sent me the same way - you don't have a reservation, therefore you don't have a reservation number. You never preordered, you never filled in the form, you did not reserve. Reservation, you not have. No reservation have you. You, reservation not had. Reservation(the.golden.ax)==NULL. "Communication has been low". The only thing low here is what you're writing about me in public. I do not understand your attitude Tursi. It seems that GA was one of the first people to ask for a skunkboard here on AA that was not apparently signed up for one and you and skunk have already made it known pretty early on that people have given their place up in line, you sure know for a fact that I gave up mine on Monday so why not just assign him a spot that someone else gave up rather than string him along like you have? Did he not beg or grovel enough for you? I read his post as asking to know if he is in line for a spot that was given up, not as you read it, as some maligning comment on you. I have known Golden Ax a long time and his reputation around here is stellar. He's one of the good guys and yet you felt the need to drag him through the mud publicly just because he wanted to give you money. I have to say now that my conversations with you via e-mail earlier in the week left me feeling that I wanted nothing to do with anything you are involved with. I asked you for an extra TWO DAYS to get money together and you read the "rules" back to me as if you were running a government cheese line or the god damned DMV. Had I known that my friend needed a place in line I surely would have given him my spot rather than having an argument via e-mail with you. If anyone here actually knew the way you treated long standing members of AA who had a little trouble, you'd be ridden out of here on a rail. When a CUSTOMER who's only goal is to GIVE YOU MONEY, you do not treat them like a child, you treat them with respect and compassion for their trouble even if you refuse to change your stupid rules to compensate a little here and there. What you don't see is the PM's Tursi was flooded with. GA brought this into the public when it was a private matter and so all you see is this small piece of the exchange without having any insight into the private exchanges. Tursi says that he offered to add GA to the list despite the fact that at the time the line was closed and there was no way to know how many boards were going to be available. He claims he tried to be accommodating despite the fact that he had no obligation to do so whatsoever. The bottom-line is this is a private matter that should not have been moved to the public forum. Tursi and KSkunk have done much more than anyone could possibly ask of them. They had no obligation to sell anyone a board let alone, design it, build it, write all the software for it, spend hours everyday packaging and shipping orders, and helping on the forums. Do you think the money received from the sale of the boards comes even close to repaying them for the time this took them? They did the Jag community a service and these posts are like slamming their arm in a car door for it. Don't comment on something when you don't have the whole story and have a little bit of compassion for the people who may be responsible for a lot of new Jag development. Sometimes this community just makes me sick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Tursi put me on the list at #169. Please let this issue alone now. Thanks, AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus23 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I was #157 and did NOT expect to get one, so I was very pleased that I got an email and gladly sent my payment. After buying 3 developer jags with Alpine boards and not ONE of them working properly, I am truly grateful for the work Tursi and Kskunk have done. I dunno...for some reason I felt compelled to write that. Good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I was #157 and did NOT expect to get one, so I was very pleased that I got an email and gladly sent my payment. After buying 3 developer jags with Alpine boards and not ONE of them working properly, I am truly grateful for the work Tursi and Kskunk have done. I dunno...for some reason I felt compelled to write that. Good work. Owning a flash cart and playing with BJL stuff, well I can say the Skunkboard doesn't actually beat both, both of those are good in their own special fields, but the Skunkboard is awesome in how it does most of both. Let's just say I am pleased to not have to load rom with one device, and then switch cables and load something into ram (BJL). Just nice. It is going to make a neat dev tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kskunk Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Owning a flash cart and playing with BJL stuff, well I can say the Skunkboard doesn't actually beat both, both of those are good in their own special fields, but the Skunkboard is awesome in how it does most of both. The Skunkboard will never beat a Flash Cart or Alpine, but it should be able to do exactly what BJL does exactly as well. If you've found things that work for sure on BJL and not on the Skunkboard, funnel them my way. Last time I found one of those it was just a little bug in JCP and it worked great after. - KS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Woo hoo! The good news is that my Skunkboard arrived in the mail! Unfortunately, the bad news is that I am moving from one apartment to another so my Jaguar is packed away until maybe Sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipj Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I was #157 and did NOT expect to get one, so I was very pleased that I got an email and gladly sent my payment. After buying 3 developer jags with Alpine boards and not ONE of them working properly, I am truly grateful for the work Tursi and Kskunk have done. I dunno...for some reason I felt compelled to write that. Good work. And to think I was actually going to dish out about $300 or $400 for one of those just so I could dev for the Jag. I'm glad I didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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