carmel_andrews Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) Following on from one of peteD's last posts and in the spirit of the original point of the atari vs commodore thread (before it deviated and got hijacked) Of the Atari and commodore versions of the same game...which version (of the game) is better (i am not interested in what system is better)...use the other thread for that Starters for ten include Ball Blazer Any of the early sierra o/l graphics adventures (i.e dark crystal etc) Alternate realities PCS (Pinball construction set) and the game that led up to it 'Raster Blaster' Any early Datamost/Datasoft game Atari/Atari soft coin op conversions Alley cat/ enocunter, rainbow walker Any frank cohen game (Scolls of abaddon, Scooter, fanda, ollies follies etc) And any others (in the 0000's) i haven't mentioned Edited July 23, 2009 by carmel_andrews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) Rescue on Fractalus, Koronis Rift, Eidolon. Elektra Glide Edited July 23, 2009 by PeteD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 I just remembered....before the chkdsk utility decided to delete all the files from my biggie HD...i had a complete collection of all commodore64 emulator versions of games I recall that the polish company LK avalon did some c64 games as well...can't remember which ones though and also which atari LK avalon games were done on the c64 Some more games Early ultima series (upto ultima 4 or 5...which ever was the last one on the atari) The Pawn/Jinxter JetBootJack/Timeslip or Robin Hood M.U.L.E. (anyone know what this was a shortform for) Gauntlet Leaderboard Spindizzy River Raid/Pitfall II/Beamrider Spy v spy 1/2 and 3 Bouderdash 1/2 and CK (or CS) Whirlynurd BBSB (Bountybob Strikes Back) Attack o/t mutant camels/Hover bovver and Gridrunner (sorry, can't remember any more JM A to C conv's) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Ditto... and God save Caramel. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 Ditto... and God save Caramel. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com what's that supposed to mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwhyte Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Ditto... and God save Caramel.-- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com what's that supposed to mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 i'm not even sure what's going on... are we meant to comment on the games being listed or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I'm pretty sure we already have a 280-page thread that WON'T DIE on exactly this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub(Function(:)) Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 M.U.L.E. (anyone know what this was a shortform for) Google not working in London? "M.U.L.E." (Multiple Use Labor Element) Also can you be more specific on the definition of better? Who is better Charlie Chaplin or Buster Keaton? Better is personal preference... One game I still have a Jag for is Tempest 2000. I have played Tempest X3 (PS2 version) Graphics higher quality Sound seems higher quality (to my ears at least). But, I would alway go back to the Jag version. It has a "soul" that is totally missing on the PS2 version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Also can you be more specific on the definition of better?Who is better Charlie Chaplin or Buster Keaton? Better is personal preference... M.U.L.E on A8 has near identical graphics and sound to the C64 version (although I find the A8 sound overall more rich, and the use of color more pleasing) - however it is a much better game on the A8 because it's fully properly 4 player as designed, 4 players with 4 sticks pure and simple... sTeVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub(Function(:)) Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 M.U.L.E on A8 has near identical graphics and sound to the C64 version (although I find the A8 sound overall more rich, and the use of color more pleasing) - however it is a much better game on the A8 because it's fully properly 4 player as designed, 4 players with 4 sticks pure and simple... But I don't have 4 friends to play against :'( This is my point though very close in graphics and sound but you preference is A8 I recently played Goonies on the C64, the graphics and sound seemed a little better than the A8 version. But I would still rather play on the A8. I guess I am just used to the way controls behave on the version I grew up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhod Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Decathlon Lode Runner Drol Karateka Summer Games Zorro Goonies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub(Function(:)) Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Following on from one of peteD's ...{snip} Alley cat/ enocunter, rainbow walker Any frank cohen game (Scolls of abaddon, Scooter, fanda, ollies follies etc) And any others (in the 0000's) i haven't mentioned Sorry I'm not having a go, honest. But where can I get a copy of the second game above? :lolblue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 just to quote U2... "How long... How long.... how long must I hear this song...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 i'm not even sure what's going on... are we meant to comment on the games being listed or something? I think that's the idea, rather than everyone just list their favourite A8 games, maybe yea/nay the ones already listed. eg Gauntlet? not sure I agree with that one. They're pretty similar. C64 has more colours, runs faster (unless what I've seen of it has filtered its way out of my busy head), music is about the same, title screen c64 has more colours except the logo.. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 This is my point though very close in graphics and sound but you preference is A8 My preference has nothing to do with the Audio Visual elements, but due to the fact that it's a 4 player game and the C64 version is poor to play in that respect - the DESIGN of the game is a group play experience - as such the A8 version offers superior play experience, and is therefore the better version to use that subjective term - objectively the A8 delivers the as designed play un-compromised unlike the C64 port... sTeVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 (Sub(Function() Enocunter by Synapse encounter.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6502A Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 A8 Dropzone is superior in every way when compared to the C64 version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I'm pretty sure we already have a 280-page thread that WON'T DIE on exactly this subject. Thing is, i've been touting the idea of a dedicated platform agnostic message board for these discussions for a year now but nobody seems interested... it'd keep them away from the format-specific boards, let them run without people doing "well this is an [Platform] board so of course you're wrong" and so on. i think i even offered to host it? =-) i'm not even sure what's going on... are we meant to comment on the games being listed or something? I think that's the idea, rather than everyone just list their favourite A8 games, maybe yea/nay the ones already listed. That's still going to be messy (as in huge blocks of text) unless we're not meant to justify the decision... i'm loathe to get involved until i know what the "rules" are. And there was at least Alley Cat listed above that isn't even on the C64 (there's a game with the same name, but it's by Solar Software) so i'm not sure where Carmel is getting his lists from! eg Gauntlet? not sure I agree with that one. They're pretty similar. C64 has more colours, runs faster (unless what I've seen of it has filtered its way out of my busy head), music is about the same, title screen c64 has more colours except the logo.. As a game, i'd say the C64 version is better to play for the frame rate (although there are better conversions on the other 8-bits). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub(Function(:)) Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) (Sub(Function() Enocunter by Synapse Exactly! Just proved what I said (Check the two spellings) I have played "enCOunter" on the A8, many times. But not this other one. Edited July 24, 2009 by Sub(Function(:)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Any ZX-81 games that are better than the Amiga versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olds-kool gamer Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Any ZX-81 games that are better than the Amiga versions? 3D Monster Maze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 The original ZX-81 release of Head or Tails trounces the Amiga version. There are bound to be many more. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6502A Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Any ZX-81 games that are better than the Amiga versions? Hey, Are you implying the same gulf exists between the A8 and C64 as it does with these machines? Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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