seanhq #26 Posted October 24, 2009 sean, that's the holy grail of the Sega CD, if not the LaserActive. I'd love to have one of those. A person came to me once, we got to talking about it. They bought a CDX at a pawn shop for $20 as a CD player, untested. High for an untested anything but turned out it worked and played all games fine. Score for him! I wanna make scores like that, once I get able to. Indeed, the CDX is pretty nice. Mine came with the original AC adapter too that says CDX on it. I'm sure at some point you'll locate one... they do pop up once in a while at pawn shops and Goodwill's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frizo #27 Posted October 24, 2009 ", you still don't have a Sega CD?" Noo... DONT HURT ME D: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev. Rob #28 Posted October 24, 2009 The one thing I hated about the Sega CD was that it required another AC adapter to power the thing. Hearing about the Sega 32X needing an AC adapter to power it as well, I decided that I wasn't going to get that after blowing $200 on the Sega CD. That's why Sega made a power strip specifically for plugging in up to four of the enormous wall warts. I always thought of it as Sega saying "sorry" for all the wall warts. I've always wanted one of those, but have never found one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow460 #29 Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) sean, that's the holy grail of the Sega CD, if not the LaserActive. I'd love to have one of those. A person came to me once, we got to talking about it. They bought a CDX at a pawn shop for $20 as a CD player, untested. High for an untested anything but turned out it worked and played all games fine. Score for him! I wanna make scores like that, once I get able to. I'd lean a little more toward the LaserActive myself. 10,000 were made. Anyone got a production total on the CDX? A little off subject, but what video output does the CDX have? I just read that it has standard RCA jacks, which puts the CDX user in the same boat as a LaserActive user...no RGB for the 32X to work with. Even I will have to work around the jungle of wires after I pull the RGB out of my LaserActive. My idea on that is similar to Nathan's on the power supply, only what I want to do is run a small bundle of wires out of the unit and into a box which will have the A/V port and either a 9VDC output if there's room for a transformer and stuff inside the LaserActive or a 120VAC output if there's no room. The reason for this is so I can run the wires through the small holes or spaces that are already in the enclosure, and, should it become necessary, the LaserActive can be returned to its unmodded state. All the jacks for RGB, S Video, and power to the mushroom would be mounted in a project box that would sit near the unit. I plan to purchase a "normal" laser disc player in the future for a couple of reasons. One is so we can watch the movies somewhere else besides the game room, and two is to cut down wear and tear on a rare (and expensive) unit. That said, it's nice to have several systems in one. I think the true holy grail of Sega CD would be a LaserActive with all five PACs and a 32X mod. This might include the custom BIOS for the PAC-S10 that would allow import games to load as well. Or, how about this: A CDX with two things: A custom made wooden support for a 32X and a rather large battery (5,000 mAh or more) that has a plug for the CDX and a plug for the 32X. The battery itself would be probably about half the size of the mushroom and would power the whole thing for several hours. Edited October 25, 2009 by shadow460 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev. Rob #30 Posted October 25, 2009 32X works fine with the CDX. It's just that you can't really access the CD port with the 32X on top. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Video #31 Posted October 25, 2009 32X works fine with the CDX. It's just that you can't really access the CD port with the 32X on top. It will plug in and come on, but like the Gen model 3, without a cable to combine the video footage, you just get a background image and it won't play (or will that cable work on the CDX?1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev. Rob #32 Posted October 25, 2009 32X works fine with the CDX. It's just that you can't really access the CD port with the 32X on top. It will plug in and come on, but like the Gen model 3, without a cable to combine the video footage, you just get a background image and it won't play (or will that cable work on the CDX?) Yes, the cable works fine with the CDX. You can fully use 32X with the unit. Since my Sega CD broke, the only way that I can play my 32X CD games is with the CDX. Like I said, the only problem is that the 32X unit obstructs access to the CD door. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregory DG #33 Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) Ugh... Seeing all those grainy FMV games makes me queasy. The Sega CD was a good idea for the time, but like other Sega efforts of the time, it was not handled with much care. They should have been pickier as to what games appeared on the thing. Instead it was a "Quantity" over "quality" thing much like Atari and the Jaguar (and Jag CD.) Kinda neat, but I'd never buy one. Genesis by itself was more than enough for me. Edited October 25, 2009 by Gregory DG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbd30 #34 Posted October 26, 2009 They added scaling and rotation technology to Sega CD. Could they have also boosted the number of colors for better video quality? I don't know to what extent that would have driven up costs, but it was expensive anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Video #35 Posted October 26, 2009 They added scaling and rotation technology to Sega CD. Could they have also boosted the number of colors for better video quality? I don't know to what extent that would have driven up costs, but it was expensive anyway. I think the problem with the color is, how the FMV worked. If I remember, it was escentually CD+G, and IIRC, that only supports like 16 colors (but it's not locked, you could use 16 different colors for each frame) If I had been sega, I would have aimed for some proprietary video format and at minimum, at least used the full Genesis color set. Thing that got me was, the video was already compressed like a sonofabitch to shove it down to 16 color, but even then, they still had to chop it down to half or quarter screen (though the system could pull full screen easy enough) and even after that, they often put alternating scanlines of solid white or black to reduce the video size even further. As a result, the games tended to look like even more ass than the SCD's limitations would have required. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desiv #36 Posted October 26, 2009 Ugh... Seeing all those grainy FMV games makes me queasy. The Sega CD was a good idea for the time, but like other Sega efforts of the time, it was not handled with much care. They should have been pickier as to what games appeared on the thing. Instead it was a "Quantity" over "quality" thing much like Atari and the Jaguar (and Jag CD.) Kinda neat, but I'd never buy one. Genesis by itself was more than enough for me. Thanx. Based on this thread, I was kind of thinking of selling my SegaCD, but after that glowing recommendation.... desiv Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keilbaca #37 Posted October 26, 2009 I love the sega cd. I even loved Sewer Shark, a much hated game for some reason, but I really like it. I use a cheap 1 dollar 3 in 1 extension cord to power my sega genesis and sega cd, and that goes into my power strip, with the bricks hidden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Tomlin #38 Posted October 27, 2009 They added scaling and rotation technology to Sega CD. Could they have also boosted the number of colors for better video quality? I don't know to what extent that would have driven up costs, but it was expensive anyway. You know what they had to do with the 32X? That's what they would have had to do to get better graphics on Sega CD. The scaling and rotation was just a processing chip. You fed it the graphics data, it chewed on it and spit it out, and then you had to write it to the VDP yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Video #39 Posted October 27, 2009 I to love3 some of the games your supposed to hate. Ground Zero Texas is one of my favorite of the FMV. But seriously, even when it first came out, as I said, i thought it kicked ass, but hated the video. I dunno, it may have been because I used VCD and LD as a kid, and expected CD to do the same thing, with less time or something. Out of curiosity, can the SCD play VCD? I remember there was an addon for the PSX to do this, Saturn too, I think... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathanallan #40 Posted October 28, 2009 I've never tried to get the SCD to play anything other than its games and audio disks. I'll have to try this. Does anyone know what format to use (to play VCD's)?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Austin #41 Posted October 28, 2009 No, the Sega CD doesn't play VCDs. Other systems back in the day required separate (generally) mpeg converters (cd-I, 3do, Saturn, playstation, etc.). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathanallan #42 Posted October 28, 2009 I thought not; I'll skip burning off a disk to try it. The SCD is still one of my favorite systems. One upgrade is to replace the LED and put an ultrabright pink or purple one in there. I haven't done that to mine yet, but it will happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremysart #43 Posted October 31, 2009 "Hey, you still don't have a Sega CD?" Hehe, I do now! Picked up a Sega Genesis 1 + Sega CD Model 1 for $15 today at Salvation Army. Hooray! Now I have a Sega CD! No games though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+pboland #44 Posted November 1, 2009 sean, that's the holy grail of the Sega CD, if not the LaserActive. I'd love to have one of those. A person came to me once, we got to talking about it. They bought a CDX at a pawn shop for $20 as a CD player, untested. High for an untested anything but turned out it worked and played all games fine. Score for him! I wanna make scores like that, once I get able to. I'd lean a little more toward the LaserActive myself. 10,000 were made. Anyone got a production total on the CDX? A little off subject, but what video output does the CDX have? I just read that it has standard RCA jacks, which puts the CDX user in the same boat as a LaserActive user...no RGB for the 32X to work with. Even I will have to work around the jungle of wires after I pull the RGB out of my LaserActive. My idea on that is similar to Nathan's on the power supply, only what I want to do is run a small bundle of wires out of the unit and into a box which will have the A/V port and either a 9VDC output if there's room for a transformer and stuff inside the LaserActive or a 120VAC output if there's no room. The reason for this is so I can run the wires through the small holes or spaces that are already in the enclosure, and, should it become necessary, the LaserActive can be returned to its unmodded state. All the jacks for RGB, S Video, and power to the mushroom would be mounted in a project box that would sit near the unit. I plan to purchase a "normal" laser disc player in the future for a couple of reasons. One is so we can watch the movies somewhere else besides the game room, and two is to cut down wear and tear on a rare (and expensive) unit. That said, it's nice to have several systems in one. I think the true holy grail of Sega CD would be a LaserActive with all five PACs and a 32X mod. This might include the custom BIOS for the PAC-S10 that would allow import games to load as well. Or, how about this: A CDX with two things: A custom made wooden support for a 32X and a rather large battery (5,000 mAh or more) that has a plug for the CDX and a plug for the 32X. The battery itself would be probably about half the size of the mushroom and would power the whole thing for several hours. I've seen the CDX and the LaserActive units mentioned (all great units BTW), but am I the only one with a JVC X'eye? It can use cart or CD and has only one power brick and one composite cable. Plus I picked mine up for $10 at Goodwill about nine years ago. The picture below isn't mine but I figured its a good picture to show what the JVC X'eye looks like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Video #45 Posted November 1, 2009 I've seen the CDX and the LaserActive units mentioned (all great units BTW), but am I the only one with a JVC X'eye? It can use cart or CD and has only one power brick and one composite cable. Plus I picked mine up for $10 at Goodwill about nine years ago. The picture below isn't mine but I figured its a good picture to show what the JVC X'eye looks like. Yeah, I actually got one of those (it was actually my first SCD unit ) Not sure where it is though :/ I'm sure it's still kicking around here, but I put it away when I got a model 2, cause I've never seen one anywhere else and thought it might be rare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev. Rob #46 Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) I've seen the CDX and the LaserActive units mentioned (all great units BTW), but am I the only one with a JVC X'eye? It can use cart or CD and has only one power brick and one composite cable. Plus I picked mine up for $10 at Goodwill about nine years ago. The picture below isn't mine but I figured its a good picture to show what the JVC X'eye looks like. Nope. In the meantime, while working at FuncoLand, someone tried to trade in a JVC X'eye and about 20 Master System games. Since the company didn't take either console as trade, I gave him the $20 I had it my pocket for the entire box. (I got a lot of stuff that way back then.) Someone has spilled soda in the X'Eye and the CD motor didn't move. I thought it was probably broken beyond any repair. But after my Sega CD died, I took it all apart and cleaned each gear and everything. To my amazement, it works to this day. But wow, $10 for X'Eye is a screaming deal. Nice find. Yeah, I actually got one of those (it was actually my first SCD unit ) Not sure where it is though :/ I'm sure it's still kicking around here, but I put it away when I got a model 2, cause I've never seen one anywhere else and thought it might be rare. They're a little rare. I've seen them go for around $75 to $125 loose, and a but more than that complete. Edited November 1, 2009 by Rev. Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow460 #47 Posted November 2, 2009 In all the ebay auctions I've checked, a loose LaserActive goes for $300 if it has the Sega unit, and $1000 if it has the TurboGrafx unit. In my experience, though, a loose LaserActive with the Sega unit goes for as little as $40... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremysart #48 Posted November 2, 2009 In all the ebay auctions I've checked, a loose LaserActive goes for $300 if it has the Sega unit, and $1000 if it has the TurboGrafx unit. In my experience, though, a loose LaserActive with the Sega unit goes for as little as $40... Hehe, Gotta love getting luck like that. Still cant believe I found Fathom for Intv complete in the wild for $7! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poopopyo #49 Posted November 2, 2009 One guy at my flea market has a giant official game store sign on his stand that says "WE CARRY SEGA CD!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathanallan #50 Posted November 4, 2009 One guy at my flea market has a giant official game store sign on his stand that says "WE CARRY SEGA CD!" I'd love to see a picture of his setup with sign. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites