Worst Cheating AI

[7800Lover]

I hated it on how the NES Ice Hockey, that the referee always called the penalty on your players and ever on the other team, even if they started the brawl.

 

Someone must have bribed the AI on that cartridge.

[Koopa64]

Sonic Shuffle (Dreamcast). The computer always gets exactly what it needs to win the game, every time. To win you have to be extremely lucky.

 

YES YES YES 1000% agree with the above post. This is the number 1 reason to have 3 controllers available on the Dreamcast. The AI in that game is absolutely horrendous in it's cheating. I swear you cannot win the majority of the time because the CPU (like said above) always gets exactly what it needs to win the game. Fun party game, game breaking AI.

[Koopa64]

I hated it on how the NES Ice Hockey, that the referee always called the penalty on your players and ever on the other team, even if they started the brawl.

 

Someone must have bribed the AI on that cartridge.

 

I think if you tap the A/B buttons fast you can put the blame on the opposing team. Not 100% sure on this but it seems to help in my experience with the game. It's still a really good Hockey game, just questionable AI...

[gdement]

I hated it on how the NES Ice Hockey, that the referee always called the penalty on your players and ever on the other team, even if they started the brawl.

 

Someone must have bribed the AI on that cartridge.

 

I think if you tap the A/B buttons fast you can put the blame on the opposing team. Not 100% sure on this but it seems to help in my experience with the game. It's still a really good Hockey game, just questionable AI...

 

 

Yeah, I've had it go both ways, pretty much evenly. I think the first team to have a player knocked away from the fight goes to the penalty box. Or the other way around.

[doubleminor]

Another nomination for MK2. From reading forums and other guides, I've found a way to beat them for the most part (it's cheap, but you can win a whole round with nothing but leg sweeps).

 

But still the cheapest AI in a game, ever.

[128bytes]

Worst cheating AI -

 

My snide remark was going to be Allen Iverson in NBA 2K2..

 

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but now it has to be Tiger Woods Golf

[JamesD]

After reading MattyG's comment on Civ IV's AI being a pain, I was wondering what games, in your opinion, have the worst cheating AI? For me I was always disgusted with how cheap the AI was in the Mario Kart games. Really turned me off from the series right from the get-go on the SNES. Anyways, what AI has given you the most frustration over the years cause there only way to win was to cheat?

Civilization: Revolution doesn't cheat any less. It knows exactly what order to do everything to achieve a certain victory.

And if the other empires see you do anything that might lead you to victory they all gang up on you.

What bugs me the most is that it seems to have a bias for certain empires.

 

As a general rule, most of the modern war games cheat. I made several posts about this in a similar thread.

[shadow460]

Atari 2600 Chess. It even cheats on the easy levels which makes it no fun to play at all.

 

In the skirmish mode of Red Alert, however, I thought it was unfair, usually the AI tank-rushed you very early, so you had to start out very defense-heavy and even then you might not survive the first attack. Also, if you played multiple opponents, they would automatically ally against you. In skirmish mode the excuse "it just works different for them" didn't apply anymore, because it's supposed to simulate a multiplayer game, a symmetric situation.

 

I have been playing Counterstrike recently, and in my last mission (Siberia 3) yesterday the map was quiet. I took my tanks east to explore a shrouded ore field, and there was nothing present. They got within a grenadier's range of the shroud and nothing happened...until one of them shot an ore truck. About 15 grenadiers simply walked out of the shroud and attacked.

 

I've never seen the cops in any GTA attack anyone but the player. Ever. You just gotta mow 'em down like the gang they are and run fast for the Pay 'n' Spray.

 

In Gran Turismo 4, the AI cars wipe out quite a bit. They also wipe out in Daytona USA. Granted, they are right in front of you, but you can drive right through the crash! Sometimes if you keep your speed up, they'll hit and then bounce out of your way, too. I've seen computer ships nose to the wall in the newer wipEout games. I've also had them explode in every wipEout without my interference at all.

Speaking of futuristic and fast racing games, extreme-G gets my vote for cheating. After you fight through the whole game once, you gain access to Roach. However, if you complete the game again you can't use Roach at all if you want access to Neon. I did just that and it told me if I wanted Neon, I had to "earn" it with a normal bike. WTF?!? If Roach is given as a reward, why can't I use it to unlock other rewards? At that point, I was totally disgusted with the game, so I entered a save game password that had access to Neon. I don't think I've played it since.

Edited December 21, 2009 by shadow460

[FalcoPhoenix808]

 

 

 

I've never seen the cops in any GTA attack anyone but the player. Ever. You just gotta mow 'em down like the gang they are and run fast for the Pay 'n' Spray.

 

 

 

They attack random peds in Vice City, San Andreas, and GTAIV. Not sure if they do that in GTAIII, since it has been awhile since I played that one. Although I will say that I think III is the hardest GTA, mainly because the M16's or AK's can cut through you in a heartbeat, even with armor on. Don't even have to mention nearly all gangs hating you and blasting you for even driving into their territory. Anytime I replay the game I make sure I have every island complete (especially Portland) before going to the next. But on IV I've (purposely) had Security Guards start shooting at me just to watch cops waste them. Done the same to peds, will mess with them, then get the attention of a cop and they'll get arrested.

[iswitt]

This is more of a modern game, but in Gears of War 2, the AI in the mulitplayer can kill you without looking at you. They can literally headshot you while facing 90 degrees away from you. Their frags also seem to have a crazy kill radius. They will get into chainsaw duels when they aren't even facing you and they can vault and/or maneuver around barriers faster than you can.

 

What's up with that?

[mbd30]

We recently played Danny Sullivan's Indy Heat for the NintendoAge weekly contests and it probably takes the cake for cheating AI in a racer. That Danny is a total douchebag, man.

Edited September 17, 2016 by mbd30

[Punisher5.0]

Every Mario Kart after the original game. There is nothing quite like being in first the whole race and right before the finish line getting hit by a blue shell. I've almost thrown a controller several times because of that.

[Starscream]

Another nomination for MK2. From reading forums and other guides, I've found a way to beat them for the most part (it's cheap, but you can win a whole round with nothing but leg sweeps).

 

But still the cheapest AI in a game, ever.

I have seen the MK series mentioned a few times in this thread and MK 1-3 actually are very easy to go through. I am not 100% sure about home versions as I never played any, but for the arcade versions, your action "triggers" a response from the AI. For example, MK2 doing a footsweep as the opponent comes towards you, automatically makes the opponent jump. The closer they are will make them jump away from you, too soon, and they jump at and attack. So waiting until they are close, footsweep then throw projectile. Even if they block, they are now on the defensive. On any difficulty on MK1, you can win double flawless, every round until goro, just by uppercutting or roundhouse kick. DO NOT use block at all. Wait until they approach. Timing is critical but it is very easy.

 

If you don't really use block until the last minute, it makes it easier. When projectiles are thrown at you, most will go over you in a crouching position if you don't use block. By not using block, they will also go right into another move which, once you get the timing, allows you to hit them. I think starting on 3, if you jump a little later, you can turn around in the air and kick them in the back. You need to do that instead of kicking from the air face to face, so to speak. Also, double up your moves. Scorpion has the leg grab. If you kick someone in the air, as soon as the hits registers, do the leg grab. Double hit. In fact, finish everything off with the leg grab. Jax and Lui Kang, always hold in the button for power up move (low kick). If you kick them out of the air, as soon as they are about to land, let go of button, the ground pound or bicycle kick will hit them right away.

 

The AI is responsive not aggressive. Once you figure the cause and effect, they are really simple.

Edited October 16, 2016 by Starscream

[CatPix]

They attack random peds in Vice City, San Andreas, and GTAIV. Not sure if they do that in GTAIII, since it has been awhile since I played that one. Although I will say that I think III is the hardest GTA, mainly because the M16's or AK's can cut through you in a heartbeat, even with armor on. Don't even have to mention nearly all gangs hating you and blasting you for even driving into their territory. Anytime I replay the game I make sure I have every island complete (especially Portland) before going to the next. But on IV I've (purposely) had Security Guards start shooting at me just to watch cops waste them. Done the same to peds, will mess with them, then get the attention of a cop and they'll get arrested.

True, cops attack other people in GTA games.

Tho, many people have delved into the code of GTAV and found some cringeworthy stuff :

 

Ever wondered how the cops could hear you shooting even in the most lost location ever? Well, in GTA V, all the NPC call the cops when they hear a gunfire.

EVEN THE ANIMALS.

Yep. Got a star from firing a bullet in the middle of Mt Chilliad? Blame the rabbit.

 

Also, the AI have 100% accuracy on shooting. The cops cannot miss you, the only thing that save you is that thei damages are relative to the distance and type of weapon.

[+atari2600land]

Every Mario Kart after the original game. There is nothing quite like being in first the whole race and right before the finish line getting hit by a blue shell. I've almost thrown a controller several times because of that.

Play the N64 version, the computer AI rarely, if ever, uses a blue shell. But there is a major cheating point for the players, though. At the track with the train, if you speed up and go before the train comes, the other players follow you like they are invincible and don't hit the train. This is why I always slow down and let the trains pass. Everyone stops for it then. It also makes for more interesting race results.

[CatPix]

Even the first Super Mario Kart is quite unfair. Some NPC have special items you never get yourself when you play said characters, and they have an unlimited supply of them And of course the computer mever make any mistake aside from driving into items you placed.

[Nebulon]

I'm not sure if you'd call it an A.I. or not, but the barrels in the arcade version of Donkey Kong cheat like a S.O.B.

[Nebulon]

In Ye Olde WipeOut XL, I had always suspected that the computer was giving weapons to enemy craft when it felt they needed them, but yesterday I actually witnessed a competitor drop mines while his shield was up, which is impossible for us lowly human players to do. The game is still fun, but now I know the truth...

Another Psygnosis game that I'm suspicious of is Armourgeddon. The computer's tech level is way higher than the player's and the computer's vehicles never seem to run out of fuel.

[imstarryeyed]

Ok most likely you have never heard of this game but there is great game for the Nintendo Wii called Fortune Street, its a fun cross between Monopoly & Stock Market Simulator with Mario & Dragon Warrior characters! Its really great.

 

The problem is that you need to play single player to open up new boards and such and the computer has complete control over what number they need to appear on the "random" dice that its throws. It will literally throw the perfect number it needs to avoid your high dollar areas or land on that perfect space to prevent you from getting a monopoly.

 

This is one of the most frustrating points I have ever played in a game ever!!

 

This game is great however with your friends with no computer playing!!!

[Tempest]

 

Ok most likely you have never heard of this game but there is great game for the Nintendo Wii called Fortune Street, its a fun cross between Monopoly & Stock Market Simulator with Mario & Dragon Warrior characters! Its really great.

 

The problem is that you need to play single player to open up new boards and such and the computer has complete control over what number they need to appear on the "random" dice that its throws. It will literally throw the perfect number it needs to avoid your high dollar areas or land on that perfect space to prevent you from getting a monopoly.

 

This is one of the most frustrating points I have ever played in a game ever!!

 

This game is great however with your friends with no computer playing!!!

 

This is exactly why I never picked it up. I heard the computer was a cheating bastard.

[imstarryeyed]

This is exactly why I never picked it up. I heard the computer was a cheating bastard.

 

If you play it enough you can get through the single player boards but yes I understand why you avoided it... haha

[Nebulon]

I think this pretty much sums it up:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv_XaPp-XIY

[bradhig1]

AI in Commander and Conquer Red Alert skirmish was a joke. It would always send it's forces to the upper left hand corner of the map before attacking you and it's base would become a huge traffic jam when it's harvesters got surrounded by other vehicles. AI on later C & C always got a cash advance of $500 even without collecting resources or other sources of income.

 

Mario Kart 64 had a nasty bug I think. If an AI got into first place and then got so far ahead you that it was off the screen you could never catch it again.

[S1500]

In terms of faction fighting in GTA3, this seems to be relieved a bit in GTA5.

 

There's a part of the game where you're not supposed to go into the city. If you do, thugs come after you. I decided to have fun and went into the city. I also had cops after me with a wanted level. Got lucky where the thugs & the cops were fighting each other enough where I could sneak away. That was not easy, as I was standing on a roof of a small building, just waiting for them to focus on each other instead of me.

 

 

As for racing games, it's always me, James May versus all Stigs.