Atari ST vs. a wallswitch

[+poobah]

Like its any less ridiculous than the other "vs." threads...

[Cebus Capucinis]

Well, at least with the wallswitch it's easy to repair when it breaks...

[atarian63]

Well, at least with the wallswitch it's easy to repair when it breaks...

The St is about as easy to repair. though it seldom needs it.

[Goochman]

Well if the Wall Switch controls the power to a Core i7 Win7 16 gig quad core dual SLI graphics machine then the Wall Switch wins hands down

[Cebus Capucinis]

OOH OOH what if the wall switch controlled the ST?

 

WHOA THAT'S DEEP MAN

[Fletch]

Like its any less ridiculous than the other "vs." threads...

 

 

Apparently you didn't get my joke of adding the IIgs thread. I was attempting to poke fun at the ST vs. Amiga thread. My attempt failed I suppose.

[+Ransom]

I've gotta go with the wallswitch. Universally useful and compatible, and available in a variety of delightful designs and wallplates. Whereas the ST is sort of like the Model T in that you can't get it in very many designs. And absolutely none by "name" fashion designers! Plus, they don't sell ST's at my local Home Depot or Wal-Mart, so it fails miserably there as well.

[+poobah]

I've gotta go with the wallswitch. Universally useful and compatible, and available in a variety of delightful designs and wallplates. Whereas the ST is sort of like the Model T in that you can't get it in very many designs. And absolutely none by "name" fashion designers! Plus, they don't sell ST's at my local Home Depot or Wal-Mart, so it fails miserably there as well.

 

Heck, the ST won't even fit in an INDUSTRY STANDARD outlet box!

[+poobah]

Like its any less ridiculous than the other "vs." threads...

 

 

Apparently you didn't get my joke of adding the IIgs thread. I was attempting to poke fun at the ST vs. Amiga thread. My attempt failed I suppose.

 

I actually really like my IIgs

[desiv]

I souped up my Wall switches with with X10 remote controlled interfaces..

Multiple levels of dimming, which I'll refer to as hi-res monochrome color cycling.

Included was wired AND wireless networking, out of the box.

 

Show me an ST that does that!!!

 

:-)

 

desiv

[Fletch]

Like its any less ridiculous than the other "vs." threads...

 

 

Apparently you didn't get my joke of adding the IIgs thread. I was attempting to poke fun at the ST vs. Amiga thread. My attempt failed I suppose.

 

I actually really like my IIgs

 

 

I think the IIgs is nifty as well. I just think "my computer is better than your computer" arguments get kind of old. The arguments are circular and will never be settled. The ST, the Amiga, the IIgs, hell the Timex Sinclair all have good uses.

 

My IIgs thread was a bit of a farce for the reason above. There will always be things about a computer that will be better on one than another and for that reason I kind of laugh at the passion people have.

[+save2600]

LOL!

 

Wall switch all the way. Infinitely more useful and productive today on all levels. lol

 

All of my wall switches and switchable power surge "protectors" get more use than an Atari ST ever would in my home (but then again, that's true of all my computers). lmao

Edited December 13, 2009 by save2600

[+Ransom]

Heck, the ST won't even fit in an INDUSTRY STANDARD outlet box!

 

Excellent point!

 

(Well, maybe the "Does it blend?" guy could get it to fit.)

[marvio]

Like its any less ridiculous than the other "vs." threads...

 

 

Apparently you didn't get my joke of adding the IIgs thread. I was attempting to poke fun at the ST vs. Amiga thread. My attempt failed I suppose.

 

I actually really like my IIgs

 

 

I think the IIgs is nifty as well. I just think "my computer is better than your computer" arguments get kind of old. The arguments are circular and will never be settled. The ST, the Amiga, the IIgs, hell the Timex Sinclair all have good uses.

 

My IIgs thread was a bit of a farce for the reason above. There will always be things about a computer that will be better on one than another and for that reason I kind of laugh at the passion people have.

I have t osay that people are actually having a productive conversation over there though...

[+poobah]

Like its any less ridiculous than the other "vs." threads...

 

 

Apparently you didn't get my joke of adding the IIgs thread. I was attempting to poke fun at the ST vs. Amiga thread. My attempt failed I suppose.

 

I actually really like my IIgs

 

 

I think the IIgs is nifty as well. I just think "my computer is better than your computer" arguments get kind of old. The arguments are circular and will never be settled. The ST, the Amiga, the IIgs, hell the Timex Sinclair all have good uses.

 

My IIgs thread was a bit of a farce for the reason above. There will always be things about a computer that will be better on one than another and for that reason I kind of laugh at the passion people have.

I have t osay that people are actually having a productive conversation over there though...

 

The IIgs thread is probably the calmest... I did learn that they have hard disks for them, never knew that, I'd love a hard drive for my IIgs!

[JamesD]

I'll take the wall switch... it's more useful.

[brojamfootball]

I'll take the wall switch... it's more useful.

*shoots coffee out his nose laughing*

[BigO]

While both are digital in nature, the switching that goes on inside in the ST is probably faster than a wall switch.

 

Note: this is mere speculation. I don't have an ST so I can't verify this.

[griz]

Wallswitch = 1 bit of memory.

 

St lacks hardware scrolling. Then again, so does the wallswitch. However the wallswitch could function as a joystick's fire button at the speed of light if only the ST's slow joystick port could handle it.

[+poobah]

Not to mention that the wallswitch is also compatible with ANY power source!

[+RevEng]

Excellent topic!

 

I've always been a wallswitch fan. I owned very many wallswitches and never owned an ST, so I consider myself an authority on the topic.

 

My take on this...

 

• The ST has a fixed frequency design, while the wallswitch can cycle at a variable rate. Point to the wallswitch.
  
• Wallswitches have a larger installed base than the ST. This ensures more wallswitch applications are created than ST applications.
  
• The wallswitch has a variety of inexpensive cover replacements for customization. The ST has none. Another point to the wallswitch.
  
• The wallswitch was more revolutionary in its day. The ST was just one of many choices when it came out.
  
• The wallswitch can interface with many standard devices: lights, fans, electrical outlets (which extend this ability nearly infinitely!) The ST can interface with none of these. Switch wins again.

I could go on and on about the technical merits, but when it comes down to it, the switch is just more fun. I flip wallswitches dozens of times a day.

 

If I had to choose between having one or other other, I'd definitely go with the wallswitches.

Edited December 26, 2009 by RevEng

[desiv]

St lacks hardware scrolling. Then again, so does the wallswitch.

 

Actually, I'd say the wallswitch has hardware scolling by definition. In fact, my dimming model has a very smooth scroll. :-)

 

desiv

[atarian63]

I'll take the wall switch... it's more useful.

And more useful than an Amiga

[JamesD]

I'll take the wall switch... it's more useful.

And more useful than an Amiga

Or any other computer for that matter.

 

I've used a wall switch almost every day for over 40 years.

They are kinda essential for electric lights.

Computers... we could survive without those much easier.

[atarian63]

I'll take the wall switch... it's more useful.

And more useful than an Amiga

Or any other computer for that matter.

 

I've used a wall switch almost every day for over 40 years.

They are kinda essential for electric lights.

Computers... we could survive without those much easier.

So true, very useful, and reliable!