JacobZu7zu7 #1 Posted December 24, 2009 (edited) AGH'S ATARI 2600 REVIEW PAGE Well, this webpage has a slew of Atari 2600 game reviews... and I don't agree with many of them! They seem very random, and often all over with the number ratings. Have a look, http://www.atarihq.com/reviews/2600 Even gave 20th century fox a 'bad name', in terms of making bland games?! I bet to differ! I like Fox games that were made. I love Fantastic Voyage, Porky's.. Alien was pretty cool and hell I even like Beany Bopper... lol. Quote by the reviewer...', ""Believe it of not, not all games published by Fox were bad or poorly licensed games. Sure, the vast majority of Fox's 2600 library is pretty bland, but a few games manage to stray from the pack."" ""Overall, it's not bad by Fox standards, but that's not anything to write home about."" Here's some disfunctional reviewing... Title Bermuda Triangle Publisher Data Age System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 7 Sound 6 Gameplay 7 Overall 7 Reviewer Keita Iida Title Barnstorming Publisher Activision System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 7 Sound 6 Gameplay 8 Overall 8 Reviewer Keita Iida Title Bachelor Party Publisher Mystique System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 5 Sound 4 Gameplay 7 Overall 7 Reviewer Keita Iida Title Fantastic Voyage Publisher Fox Video Games System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 6 Sound 6 Gameplay 5 Overall 5 Reviewer Keita Iida Title Alien Publisher Fox Video Games System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 4 Sound 5 Gameplay 5 Overall 5 Reviewer Keita Iida So.. Barnstorming and Bachelor Party are better then Alien and Fantastic Voyage? OK... Edited December 24, 2009 by JacobZu7zu7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Marc Oberhäuser #2 Posted December 24, 2009 Everyone has different opinions... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorGamer #3 Posted December 24, 2009 The first one I looked at was Reactor, since this has been a topic of conversation lately... The reviewer like the game, however, only gave it a 5 on the sound which is one of the strong points of the game. It seems to me like their ratings just don't jive with the commentary. Reading the commentary seems that the overall rating would have been an 8 at the least. Also, I don't agree with "The wall and the reactor, however, look like something from out of the old days of Pong. They could be brushed up somewhat." Given the system, I think they did an excellent job with the graphics. Here are their ratings with my ratings are bolded below: Title Reactor Publisher Parker Brothers System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 7 9 Sound 5 10 Gameplay 7 10 Overall 7 9 Reviewer Keita Iida Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #4 Posted December 24, 2009 Everyone has different opinions... Sure, I understand. But, what I was getting at was, this AGH Reviews.. well, he trying to pass his "opinion" as facts or that he picks which games to avoid, or what to play... and I can be strict in my own opinion and say I think he's wrong many times. I just don't think this dude is clear or completely direct. I think he votes according to how much he likes a game, not by the real quality or gameplay, like his ratings claim to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorGamer #5 Posted December 24, 2009 Yes, we all know this stuff is a matter of opinion. It should be understood whether your VideoGameCritic.net or another reviewer, you will stir up criticism which makes it interesting (at least to me) conversation. Moving on... I do not have Airlock and I only played it once in Stella. But, although the overall score was a 5, it's a far cry from how VGC and others rated this game: "Airlock is fast moving, and it's quite enjoyable for quick play sessions." "Graphics are drab in typical Data Age fashion, and sounds consist of nothing more than blips and beeps. On the other hand, it's one of the better efforts by one of the first casualties of the classic videogame era... although that's not saying much." Title Airlock Publisher Data Age System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 5 Sound 4 Gameplay 5 Overall 5 Reviewer Keita Iida Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorGamer #6 Posted December 24, 2009 Everyone has different opinions... Sure, I understand. But, what I was getting at was, this AGH Reviews.. well, he trying to pass his "opinion" as facts or that he picks which games to avoid, or what to play... and I can be strict in my own opinion and say I think he's wrong many times. I just don't think this dude is clear or completely direct. I think he votes according to how much he likes a game, not by the real quality or gameplay, like his ratings claim to do. Can you post some quotes that illustrate this? Whether your reviewing video games or film et al, it's implied that it is one person's opinion. However, as it was said in another thread regarding the omission of Space Invaders from the "Greatest Video Games So Far," it helps to know who is reviewing this stuff to gauge the credibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cx2k #7 Posted December 27, 2009 Sure, I understand. But, what I was getting at was, this AGH Reviews.. well, he trying to pass his "opinion" as facts or that he picks which games to avoid, or what to play... and I can be strict in my own opinion and say I think he's wrong many times. I just don't think this dude is clear or completely direct. I think he votes according to how much he likes a game, not by the real quality or gameplay, like his ratings claim to do. You do realize that these reviews were written some 12+ years ago? As such, they were some of the first reviews written about classic games. Sort of uncharted territory. I would venture that Keita would have rated some of them differently today, but maybe not. John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #8 Posted December 27, 2009 You do realize that these reviews were written some 12+ years ago? As such, they were some of the first reviews written about classic games. Sort of uncharted territory. I would venture that Keita would have rated some of them differently today, but maybe not. John I realize that easily. As I first found that site at least 8 years ago. However I first started reading 'all' of the reviews on that page recently. BEFORE I just would surf to a game or two I liked and read the review for it. I just felt that Keita, would sometimes rating a poorly made game high, and a good quality game low. I didn't agree with his sayings on why the games bad, just felt contrived to me. - I don't think how old the reviews matters much in rating of games. Unless he wrote these in the 80's or something. Atari gaming still plays the same to me as it did in 1999. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorGamer #9 Posted December 27, 2009 I don't think how old the reviews matters much in rating of games. Unless he wrote these in the 80's or something. Atari gaming still plays the same to me as it did in 1999. I think the credible reviews are those written around the time of a given title's release. I want to find reviews of 2600 Defender around the time it was released versus other reviews written after 1990 and see what the difference is - if any... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurisu #10 Posted December 28, 2009 The depth of some of these reviews bothers me... Hardly anything on Chopper Command or Space Invaders, but a good 3 screens worth on X-Man? WTS? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carey85 #11 Posted December 28, 2009 Most casual gamers are more interested in the Atari porno library than the other 99% of the library. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #12 Posted January 5, 2010 Most casual gamers are more interested in the Atari porno library than the other 99% of the library. I haven't played many Porn games on Atari 2600. I tried a few on emulator and none seemed even close to being good fun. Overall Breakout is scored the highest so far I think, higher then every arcade port. Title Breakout Publisher Atari System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 4 Sound 5 Gameplay 9 Overall 9 Reviewer Keita Iida Title Asteroids Publisher Atari System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 7 Sound 5 Gameplay 7 Overall 7 Reviewer Keita Iida Title Jungle Hunt Publisher Atari System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 7 Sound 6 Gameplay 5 Overall 6 Reviewer Keita Iida Also, graphic ratings seem to get much more respect if he LIKES the game... Title Berzerk Publisher Atari System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 7 Title Beany Bopper Publisher Fox Video Games System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 3 To me Berzerk and Beany Bopper are about the same in graphic quality. Both minimal and average. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #13 Posted January 5, 2010 Everyone has different opinions... Can you post some quotes that illustrate this? Whether your reviewing video games or film et al, it's implied that it is one person's opinion. However, as it was said in another thread regarding the omission of Space Invaders from the "Greatest Video Games So Far," it helps to know who is reviewing this stuff to gauge the credibility. 1 quote from mr K.I. "Had it offered a two-player, split-screen mode, Barnstorming would rate as one of the best multiplayer games for any console." My ass... lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorGamer #14 Posted January 5, 2010 Everyone has different opinions... Can you post some quotes that illustrate this? Whether your reviewing video games or film et al, it's implied that it is one person's opinion. However, as it was said in another thread regarding the omission of Space Invaders from the "Greatest Video Games So Far," it helps to know who is reviewing this stuff to gauge the credibility. 1 quote from mr K.I. "Had it offered a two-player, split-screen mode, Barnstorming would rate as one of the best multiplayer games for any console." My ass... lol. That's funny in a couple of ways. First of all, you'd have to squash the screen in half horizontally and on top of that you have to wonder how much flicker there would have been. Maybe someone could hack it for fun and see what happens (but I doubt it's worth the effort)... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #15 Posted January 5, 2010 At the time when Crash Dive was released for the 2600, Fox Video Games already had one foot in the grave. Its previous efforts like M*A*S*H* and Porky's were dull and unimaginative, and even apathetic mainstream gamers quickly saw through the licensed fluff for what they were... garbage. Crash Dive merely continued that tradition. Title Crash Dive Publisher Fox Video Games System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 2 Sound 4 Gameplay 2 Overall 2 Reviewer Keita Iida Still bashing Fox at every turn, and I don't see these graphics a 2 rating. I haven't even seen a 2 on the whole review page! Yet somehow Fox games, Fast Eddie got away with a very high rating. How are the graphics a 7 for Eddie and a 2 for Crash Dive, I think Crash Dive looks better in the graphics! Title Fast Eddie Publisher Fox Video Games System Atari 2600 (VCS) Graphics 7 Sound 5 Gameplay 7 Overall 7 Reviewer Keita Iida Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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