JacobZu7zu7 #1 Posted January 5, 2010 Considering buying this game, not sure if its worth it... anybody enjoy this one? I only read two bad reviews on it so far, anything cool about it? I played Dark Chambers before (a similar game), thought it was mediocre mainly because its too long and easy. Also the wizard moves too slow around the rooms, if he moved quicker would have made a huge difference. Which of these two games do YOU like better? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvga #2 Posted January 5, 2010 Considering buying this game, not sure if its worth it... anybody enjoy this one? I only read two bad reviews on it so far, anything cool about it? I played Dark Chambers before (a similar game), thought it was mediocre mainly because its too long and easy. Also the wizard moves too slow around the rooms, if he moved quicker would have made a huge difference. Which of these two games do YOU like better? I probably prefer Dark Chambers but these are two completely different games. Crypts of Chaos is ok if you like plodding around through 1st person dungeon style games. I haven't played it in years but I don't recall any real agenda other than seeing how far you can descend down into the crypts. If you like the 1st person perspective, I'd recommend Escape from the Mindmaster or Skeleton+. If you like the exploring part of the game, I'd recommend Dungeon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+save2600 #3 Posted January 5, 2010 I'd give the nod to Crypts of Chaos for its innovative graphics and gameplay, but CVGA is right about Escape From The Mindmaster for the Starpath Supercharger. Totally blows either away. Most all of the other games released for it kick arse too, so it's definitely worth picking up. Either that or a Harmony Cart I guess, since the tapes have been turned into ROMS some time ago. Still have my Stella Gets a New Brain CD Never understood Dark Chambers, how the characters change form after being hit. The 7800 version even does that, but to a much lesser extent. Was that their cheesy way of piling up characters to make it seem as if there were more on the screen or something? IF so, that's worse than faking it like they did with 2600 DK and Defender! lol Having not read the manual, I wonder what the cheesy marketing excuse for that is... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zylon #4 Posted January 5, 2010 Games like these suffered greatly from a lack of sprite control. Obvious in the swarm on Defender or the smaller rocks in Astroblast. I'd recommend playing adventure games on a higher level system. I enjoyed both Crypts and Dark Chambers back then but not so much now. Skeleton was very well done. Either game is worth trying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+save2600 #5 Posted January 5, 2010 Games like these suffered greatly from a lack of sprite control. Obvious in the swarm on Defender or the smaller rocks in Astroblast. I'd recommend playing adventure games on a higher level system. I enjoyed both Crypts and Dark Chambers back then but not so much now. Skeleton was very well done. Either game is worth trying. I have yet to play Skeleton, but I read that it takes advantage of the stereo sound built into the Atari. Just have to wire it so, which is something I've been meaning to do. But if you have to use your auditory senses too, that's pretty cool (still don't like Mountain King... lol) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamme #6 Posted January 5, 2010 Buy it for sure - awesome gameplay, beautiful graphics. I played it for a few hours the other night, had a great time - great action. Awesome purple label too!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StanJr #7 Posted January 5, 2010 Yeah, I have to agree with most everyone here. Crypts of Chaos is alright for what it is, but there are better games. It is about as good as Dark Chambers, but they are pretty different in terms of style. I might like Dark Chambers a little more. Worth having for the collection though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamme #8 Posted January 5, 2010 Yeah, I have to agree with most everyone here. Crypts of Chaos is alright for what it is, but there are better games. It is about as good as Dark Chambers, but they are pretty different in terms of style. I might like Dark Chambers a little more. Worth having for the collection though. I disagree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow460 #9 Posted January 5, 2010 Only thing about Escape [from the MindMaster] is that it's almost survival horror. The object is to get the puzzles solved and get out ASAP. You don't really get time to just explore. It's an awesome game, though. As if you didn't expect me to say that after you saw my avatar, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Thag #10 Posted January 5, 2010 All of the games mentioned in this thread are worth playing, especially Mind Master and Skeleton. Dragonstomper is great too. That said, I actually really like Crypts of Chaos. It may be ugly as sin, and counter-intuitive, but if you give it a fair chance and learn all of the odd rules of playing, it can actually be pretty fun. There's a bit of strategy in how you fight monsters, and the levels (while slow and uglier than a box of toad sphincters) are actually pretty big, and take some skill to play, particularly on the high levels. Is it my favorite game? No. It's good though, and it's got some very unique elements. Well worth checking out. Just *read the manual* before you even try playing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrizzLee #11 Posted January 5, 2010 Tunnel Runner is pretty good 3D Tunnel/Dungeon graphics on the VCS. I could never get into Crypts of Chaos. -Lee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #12 Posted January 6, 2010 All of the games mentioned in this thread are worth playing, especially Mind Master and Skeleton. Dragonstomper is great too. That said, I actually really like Crypts of Chaos. It may be ugly as sin, and counter-intuitive, but if you give it a fair chance and learn all of the odd rules of playing, it can actually be pretty fun. There's a bit of strategy in how you fight monsters, and the levels (while slow and uglier than a box of toad sphincters) are actually pretty big, and take some skill to play, particularly on the high levels. Is it my favorite game? No. It's good though, and it's got some very unique elements. Well worth checking out. Just *read the manual* before you even try playing it. OKay good, that doesn't sound too bad, seems like a game I can get into. And I bought one from eBay for a little over $10 bucks with manual with it. So, I'll post what I think of it soon. Even if it's not so great, I may just keep it for the collection. Thanks for the info everyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeaGtGruff #13 Posted January 6, 2010 Never understood Dark Chambers, how the characters change form after being hit. The 7800 version even does that, but to a much lesser extent. Was that their cheesy way of piling up characters to make it seem as if there were more on the screen or something? No, it's strictly to indicate the "level" of the enemy, which in turn indicates how many hits it takes to kill that enemy. It does seem kind of weird for something to turn into a skeleton, and then for a skeleton to turn into something else, but that's how you know how many more times you have to shoot it for it to go away. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeaGtGruff #14 Posted January 7, 2010 By the way, if you do decide to give Crypts of Chaos a try, you might want to check out the maps I posted for the four different floor plans: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/86147-crypts-of-chaos-maps/page__p__1050670__hl__Crypts%20of%20Chaos__fromsearch__1entry1050670 Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #15 Posted January 11, 2010 By the way, if you do decide to give Crypts of Chaos a try, you might want to check out the maps I posted for the four different floor plans: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/86147-crypts-of-chaos-maps/page__p__1050670__hl__Crypts%20of%20Chaos__fromsearch__1entry1050670 Michael Yeah, I will be getting 'Crypts' in the mail soon. Thanks for the map, just might come in handy! Since I like just about every 20th Century Fox game. This one also could strike a positive chord. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeaGtGruff #16 Posted January 12, 2010 Yeah, I will be getting 'Crypts' in the mail soon. Thanks for the map, just might come in handy! Since I like just about every 20th Century Fox game. This one also could strike a positive chord. If you're determined to give "Crypts of Chaos" a fair go, what I suggest you do is stick to the highest (easiest) levels and try to get the hang of the controls first-- not the movement so much as the "fighting." I've owned the game since it first came out, and I still can't handle the fighting very well. The problem is in the way you switch between different "weapons." You'll be in the middle of trying to kill an enemy when suddenly you'll unexpectedly find yourself moving between different weapons instead of moving your "fire" in the direction you want. And it doesn't help that the movements are so slow, which "encourages" you to push harder on the stick to try to get it to move faster (yeah, I know that never works, but it doesn't stop your id from trying to make it work anyway), and that just makes it all the more likely you'll unintentionally switch out of your chosen weapon and find your cursor moving between weapons. Getting the hang of the controls is very difficult. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #17 Posted January 19, 2010 Hi again all... Just recived Crypts of Chaos today and have been playing it. My opinion is, it's not too bad (so far). I'd say it's met my expectations. Probably better then what I been reading online with ratings/reviews. Another plus, is I don't feel I'm moving as slow or purposeless, as it COULD have seemed so, that's good. I was a little worried. The controls aren't as tricky as I expected either... another plus there. I like the sound effects, mainly for the weapons firing and music cues on the enemies approaching. Cool! Glad the walls change color, I'd have no clue how far I've gone without that I think it's a decent game (so far so good). I think the only gripe I have is the maze itself, and that's fine as it's kinda like Haunted House, but much more involved, maybe it gets easier the more you play? Of course, the more difficult the game level is, the harder the controls will be to maneuver probably. Thanks yall' for helping me make my mind up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+save2600 #18 Posted January 19, 2010 Glad you're enjoying it. The title and artwork alone is worth the purchase Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #19 Posted January 23, 2010 My high score so far on Normal game 2,177 and a pic of me exiting the Crypts on Easy game, was "easy" to do, just made two lefts, collected 2 treasures, and went straight then that led me up the red staircase! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #20 Posted January 23, 2010 Yeah, I will be getting 'Crypts' in the mail soon. Thanks for the map, just might come in handy! Since I like just about every 20th Century Fox game. This one also could strike a positive chord. If you're determined to give "Crypts of Chaos" a fair go, what I suggest you do is stick to the highest (easiest) levels and try to get the hang of the controls first-- not the movement so much as the "fighting." I've owned the game since it first came out, and I still can't handle the fighting very well. The problem is in the way you switch between different "weapons." You'll be in the middle of trying to kill an enemy when suddenly you'll unexpectedly find yourself moving between different weapons instead of moving your "fire" in the direction you want. And it doesn't help that the movements are so slow, which "encourages" you to push harder on the stick to try to get it to move faster (yeah, I know that never works, but it doesn't stop your id from trying to make it work anyway), and that just makes it all the more likely you'll unintentionally switch out of your chosen weapon and find your cursor moving between weapons. Getting the hang of the controls is very difficult. Michael Giving this one a few nice plays. Enjoying it. I got the hang of the controls! I don't make many mistakes, although I'm often using the Peace/Wand. Seems I take a nice beating with trying the Sword against the snake, IRONIC. Tend to run out of Wand weapon, which can be discoraging. Only think I am runing into problems is, the maze layout of course... The intersections mainly is the problem... trying to remember if I turned left or right, or if I am heading back where I came from by accident? LOL. If only they made each corridor a different color, would be much easier to tell if I went down it already or not. But it's not impossible! Just gotta maybe map as I go, or use those nice maps you Michael have supplied. Really impressive maps you made! Especialy maze C and D. Was is extremely difficult to map all of this? How long did it take you? At least this game has an easy mode!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #21 Posted January 23, 2010 Normal Game.. made it out of the Crypts! I only went upstairs 5 times to get it, but still 3,155 Didn't recieve much for bonus lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeaGtGruff #22 Posted January 25, 2010 Really impressive maps you made! Especialy maze C and D. Was is extremely difficult to map all of this? How long did it take you? At least this game has an easy mode!! It's been a little while, so I don't remember how long it took, but I don't think it took very long. I just played on the easiest levels, and basically just moved forward counting as I went, to see how far I had to go to reach an intersection or lair, then filled it in on a grid in MS Paint. I'm glad the maps are useful to you. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacobZu7zu7 #23 Posted January 25, 2010 Really impressive maps you made! Especialy maze C and D. Was is extremely difficult to map all of this? How long did it take you? At least this game has an easy mode!! It's been a little while, so I don't remember how long it took, but I don't think it took very long. I just played on the easiest levels, and basically just moved forward counting as I went, to see how far I had to go to reach an intersection or lair, then filled it in on a grid in MS Paint. I'm glad the maps are useful to you. Michael Okay cool, it is a complex maze, but not impossible. Hardest part is running out of your Wand, and not remembering what direction you took when you are returning to the intersections. So far I actually haven't used your maps yet, just got out of the Crypts by myself. Mainly by good use of those intersections, walked and walked till I found lairs, and up staircases! But if I want to try advaced or difficult games, the maps will help me... and I think I may not bother to map it on my own, since there's maps ready from you. Thanks again for posting them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites