I don't believe it, I actually had FUN playing an FPS online tonight

[2600Lives]

Ok, so, after a LONG time sitting on my shelf, I finally decided to go through the first Call of Juarez game. The single player is great, actually. A few parts are a pain in the ass, like shooting dynamite out of the air and Billy's stealth parts, but overall, it was a fun experience (even if Ray is one of THE most unlikable protagonists I've ever played in my life).

 

So, tonight, I decide to venture online a little bit and see what it's all about. Not many playing, so I make my own game, and get about 4 players drop in. For over an hour on the Coffeyville map we ran around killing each other, and...I was having FUN! I normally despise FPS games online because of the losers who spend their entire lives dedicated to these games and ruin the fun for everyone else. Typically, I only exist in FPS games to give the other players kills, but not this time! I actually WON the very first game I played of this game EVER! Wow, that's like the first time I've ever won a round on a FPS. I think it's the one hit kills that I like. When I do play these types of games, I'm a sniper, and if you line up a target, POW, they drop. It was so satisfying coming across the other 3 players in a heated gun battle, only for me to sit back and pick them off one by one. No shit talk, either, which I found refreshing. Now I'm seriously tempted to pick up Bound in Blood to see how it's multiplayer is.

[Mendon]

I played the online part of Bound in Blood for many hours and really, really enjoyed it. I actually believe it was the most fun I've had with an online game in a long, long time.

 

The maps were the right size & creative, the number of players in a match was the correct amount, the weapons & classes were a blast (especially after they fixed the overpowered Hombre), and the people playing it were very cool.

 

I went so far as to buy the add-on map pack and found the maps to be especially fun.

 

BUT.. a word of warning: its really getting difficult to find good matches anymore as the number of players online has shrunk considerably in the last 3 months. When I first started playing, there would be no less than 35 different matches going on at any one time. The last few times I tried to play (which was the beginning of December), I was getting only 3 or 4 matches showing up and frequently 1 or 2 of them might not have enough players in them to start a match. And its been a loooooong time since I saw anyone using any of the add-on maps for matches.

 

Bound in Blood is a great online experience and tons of fun to play. But unfortunately, its becoming a Ghost Town and getting harder and harder to play online.

 

 

Mendon

[+HammR25]

If you don't like Ray in Call of Juarez you'll hate both protagonists in Bound in Blood.

[2600Lives]

Oh, I realize the McCall brothers are total assholes, but they're desperados, and are supposed to be that way. It was Ray acting like he was the hammer of god all the time I got sick of, his complete self-righteousness. I actually kept purposefuly getting myself killed I disliked him so much. Playing a bad guy is no big deal, as most GTA games you're a jerkoff, but playing a bad guy in the guise of righteousness is a little hard for me to take. Him calling the Apaches the "children of Satan" pretty much cemented my hatred of him.

[moycon]

No shit talk, either, which I found refreshing. Now I'm seriously tempted to pick up Bound in Blood to see how it's multiplayer is.

 

You just need some folks on your friends list that you know and can play with that won't trash talk and just want to have a good time.

Add me to you friends list, if you would like. There are plenty of older kick ass FPS games that are a blast to play online.

Some of my favorites are....

Prey, Quake 4, Unreal 3, Halo 3 etc.....

Every now and again you can find enough folks willing to dust off a copy (In Halo3's case this usually isn't necessary since online is still mega strong on that title) and set up a game on these older FPS and they are still great fun.

[2600Lives]

See, I played again tonight in some skirmish matchups. GREAT fun! I was consistently coming in 2nd in kills every game (sniper, you don't get a lot of kills), and it was still fun as all get out. I truly cannot believe that there is a FPS that I can play and enjoy online against other players. In Halo I get my ass KICKED every few seconds each and every time I try to play (I think it's the stupid jumping I hate there), but here, everything just feels natural. Pull L to zoom, fire with R, SO easy instead of having to click one of the control sticks. I even actually won a couple of the rounds for my team, which seriously shocked me. I guess nobody had a mic, as there was NO chatter whatsoever, but that's a plus in my book. But, there's nothing quite like the shocked thrill you get of popping off a shot you think is NEVER going to hit (say, through a cloud of smoke), and seeing that enemy's body fall. Even better, as a sniper, catching someone going down a ladder and putting a bullet in their back. I realize that this is probably old hat to a lot of you, but this is like a whole new world to me. EVERY FPS game I've ever played online I've sucked SO hard at it wasn't even funny, but this is like a total breath of fresh air!

 

I could never play stuff like CoD online or anything like that, though. Man, I'd get MURDERED. I did play a little Battlefield 1942 back in the day, but I lost interest in that right quick. I think it's how everything is simplified. No body armor, no rocket launchers, none of that crap, just some cowboys with rifles and pistols duking it out.

[2600Lives]

See, I played again tonight in some skirmish matchups. GREAT fun! I was consistently coming in 2nd in kills every game (sniper, you don't get a lot of kills), and it was still fun as all get out. I truly cannot believe that there is a FPS that I can play and enjoy online against other players. In Halo I get my ass KICKED every few seconds each and every time I try to play (I think it's the stupid jumping I hate there), but here, everything just feels natural. Pull L to zoom, fire with R, SO easy instead of having to click one of the control sticks. I even actually won a couple of the rounds for my team, which seriously shocked me. I guess nobody had a mic, as there was NO chatter whatsoever, but that's a plus in my book. But, there's nothing quite like the shocked thrill you get of popping off a shot you think is NEVER going to hit (say, through a cloud of smoke), and seeing that enemy's body fall. Even better, as a sniper, catching someone going down a ladder and putting a bullet in their back. I realize that this is probably old hat to a lot of you, but this is like a whole new world to me. EVERY FPS game I've ever played online I've sucked SO hard at it wasn't even funny, but this is like a total breath of fresh air!

 

I could never play stuff like CoD online or anything like that, though. Man, I'd get MURDERED. I did play a little Battlefield 1942 back in the day, but I lost interest in that right quick. I think it's how everything is simplified. No body armor, no rocket launchers, none of that crap, just some cowboys with rifles and pistols duking it out.

[2600Lives]

Well, I'm done with CoJ. Of course, naturally, someone would inevitably come into a game who had every nook and cranny of every map memorized, and would just kill you over and over and over and you never even SEE him. Man, that's SO fun! Just falling over dead as soon as you spawn! Wow, whoever thought of making games like that is a GENIUS! Pfeh.

 

So, I decided to try another game I've yet to play online a little tonight. Lost Planet.

 

Wow.

 

Just. Fucking. WOW.

 

This is seriously the worst thing I've ever played in my fucking life. Take a ton of bricks, shove 'em up the ass of your guy, and that's how fast he runs, even when he's NOT in 5 feet of snow. You spawn RIGHT WHERE YOU DIE OVER AND OVER! Omg, I couldn't fucking believe it, I kept spawning on this hilltop and got sniped within .2 seconds of appearing every time. And the wait for re-spawn is ridiculous. I literally never even saw a single person on the opposing team, except for the one that was in a mech going around raping us before we can even move. The controls are horrific, and NOT intuitive in the least, and I kept re-spawning with different grenades it seemed, and some of them did NOTHING but just sort of sit there. You turn soooooooooo......slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowly. Wow, it's like your guy took horse tranquilizers before starting the battle. I hate, HATE the grappling hook thingy. Since you move so damn slowly, before you get it pointed to where you want to go, someone puts a bullet in your mouth from across the battle map, so yeah, great idea there. I don't get it, I guess. Of course, with the level system, every single one playing was level 99, so that probably had something to do with it. This was even worse than playing L4D 2 online. I'd call it anti-fun. I aged 2 years just playing this, it was that bad.

 

<sigh>

 

I guess I'll just never be good at this shit. I suppose I'd have to give up all my real life friends, quit my job, move back in with my mom, and never leave the house to acquire the kinds of skills most of these guys seem to have. But, I don't have that kind of get up and go in me, I guess. I suppose I'll have to settle for having a life and sucking at online games.

[moycon]

I guess I'll just never be good at this shit. I suppose I'd have to give up all my real life friends

 

Or you could ask them to play games with you so you know who you are dealing with.

 

Tap Tap Is this thing on??

 

Quit playing with random people online. Play with some local friends or folks online who you regularly game with. No wonder you have a negative view, you're playing online with fucktarded strangers.

 

It sounds more like an issue of casual player versus competitive/tournament player.

 

I have never had a good experience playing ANY game online unless it is with someone I know.

 

2600Lives, you've posted multiple threads about this, here's the trick, play the game with people you know, people who are starting out just like you and learn how the game works, and practice, then when you get good and feel comfortable taking on competition from the outside. Then you go online and play them. It's real real simple. Practice makes perfect. Start at the bottom and work your way up.

[+HammR25]

If you quit because it's too hard you'll never get good. Those people know the entire map because they're probably 12 years old and play all the time. I played COJ on the PC enough to know the maps pretty well. All the servers were in Europe though so I sucked at the game due to lag. There are a few places on some of the maps that are awesome sniping points with a view of most of the map. It's a shame Techland never fixed them.

[NE146]

2600Lives, you've posted multiple threads about this, here's the trick, play the game with people you know, people who are starting out just like you and learn how the game works, and practice, then when you get good and feel comfortable taking on competition from the outside. Then you go online and play them. It's real real simple. Practice makes perfect. Start at the bottom and work your way up.

 

Or suck it up and realize people just talk shit online and that's the way it goes.

 

 

And here's another tip, "mute" goes a long way if you really can't stand it (usually just a simple highlight of the gamertag and pressing "A").

 

And yes, what Moycon says. Personally though, on many a game I'd start out getting absolutely creamed for months. But that's how you quickly get good at a competitive game.. by playing people better than you and getting schooled again and again. Enjoyment is relative to your perspective I guess.

[2600Lives]

None of my real life friends have a friggin' 360, though, and if they do, they play completely different games than I do (one REFUSES to even hook the 360 online, as he hates any online gaming whatsoever). It requires having friends who like what you do, THEN having a console, THEN having the same games. Not so easy to pull together.

 

I'm gonna go back to CoJ probably, but Lost Planet is a total bust for me. The slow movement just kills everything in it multiplayer wise. Single player is ok, but the slow movement in multiplayer kills it for me.

[Video]

slow movement kills lots of games for me. I love Halo, for the single player experience, but for multiplayer, it's just to damn slow....and it seems most people who play it have zero lives and do nothing but play it all day.

 

I'd much prefer Unreal, if nothing else, for the speed of the game relatively. Bots help to, you don't have to have as many human players for a "good" game if you got bots. While having 16 human players in Halo can be a schitload of fun, it's also very impractical in practice.

 

As for enjoyment, for me, I think it has to do with "all the time" more than winning or loosing. Halo's no fun for me, cause I'm useually the last, or second last rated player. Back when I played a lot, and the game was new enough not everybody knew about it, I won all the time (or was second) Problem was, it was all the time, and still not fun (IMO) Now granted, I can intentionally tone down how good I am if I am at a game, but it's impossible to magically tone up how good you are in a game on the fly.

 

Oh, yeah, I don't do online either. If your going to play online in escentualy a social game, then muting is stupid, and if you don't mute it, sure enough, 99% of the people make the entire experience suck.

 

That will never go away though....

[bloodreptile]

Or you could play Gears of War Horde where it is you against the horder plus a couple of duffers. Halo ODST has the same online multiplayer mode and is good fun....

 

 

Spare a thought for me i liked Atari's Legendary and I have never found anyone playing that one online.....

[2600Lives]

I absolutely LOATHE Halo, especially online. I cannot stand having to literally pound another player with friggin' artillery shells to kill them. Grab an overshield, get a powerful weapon, and say goodbye to everyone on the map. Meh. I usually just get sniped to death anyway, so Halo is about as fun as syphilis to me.

 

Been playing CoJ some more. While I'm not quite at expert level yet, I am getting there. Even with players that are VERY good playing, I can still manage 2nd or 3rd most games (but it depends on the map, some I totally suck at). I still HATE the dynamite, though. HOW can it be thrown so far? Ugh. The Miner is just too powerful it seems. Even the plain pistols have a range of the entire map, and that's sort of ridiculous.

 

The next multiplayer game I'm looking forward to is BioShock 2, though. Gonna give that one some serious playtime.

[Mendon]

I absolutely LOATHE Halo, especially online. I cannot stand having to literally pound another player with friggin' artillery shells to kill them. Grab an overshield, get a powerful weapon, and say goodbye to everyone on the map. Meh. I usually just get sniped to death anyway, so Halo is about as fun as syphilis to me.

 

Been playing CoJ some more. While I'm not quite at expert level yet, I am getting there. Even with players that are VERY good playing, I can still manage 2nd or 3rd most games (but it depends on the map, some I totally suck at). I still HATE the dynamite, though. HOW can it be thrown so far? Ugh. The Miner is just too powerful it seems. Even the plain pistols have a range of the entire map, and that's sort of ridiculous.

 

The next multiplayer game I'm looking forward to is BioShock 2, though. Gonna give that one some serious playtime.

 

I never played CoJ online but have played many hours of Bound in Blood and had a blast. Teamwork can really go a long ways to winning these online games and scoring kills and my friends and I would always try to find various & different ways to win... and I don't mean "spawn killing" or "camping an entire round" either.

 

I don't consider the following example "camping" since it only worked if a player ran to one specific spot: there is one map (been awhile since I played so I don't recall name), where the "wanted man" always seems to run and hide on the 2nd floor of a church. My friends and I would always team up and let him hide up there while we took turns hurling dynamite down the staircase that leads up. Almost impossible to "kill the enemy wanted man" since you can't survive constantly exploding dynamite and we stayed in position where it was hard (but not impossible) to be hit by anyone firing upwards.

 

If an opposing team tried doing that same tactic to our team, we would hurl dynamite through windows or a try a timed throw (between explosions) upwards on the staircase, hoping to catch the opposing players in a blast and give us time to rush the 2nd floor and make the kill.

 

From my experience, most players in the game, even when they are on teams, didn't seem to co-ordinate their attacks/defenses as a team but instead just went on a solo killing hunt. Teaming up and inventing attacks and defenses of positions was fun. My friends and I always watched opposing player patterns and tried to come up with ways to defeat that pattern or to improve upon a specific attack/defense of a position used by other players.

 

Yep, any weapon in the game, where a gun or dynamite, is deadly at any range. At one time, the "Hombre" was the most overpowered character in the game and 7 out of 10 players played one. One blast from either of his shot guns and from clear across the map was instant death. Plus he reloaded faster than any character and ran faster than any character. They finally released a patch that made him less God-like.

 

Campers, it seems, are in every online game. It didn't happen very often, but since spawning positions are well known and never change, there are some players who camped spawning positions constantly and made taking more than 5 steps impossible. I loathed these players and there is no defense to this tactic other than just dropping out of the game and finding a new one.

 

 

Mendon

Edited January 25, 2010 by Mendon