busterm Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Most online sources today support that there is little faith that Atari every manufactured Jaguar CD units past the initial production of 20K that were available for launch. Im here to try and prove those statements wrong. I have also noticed slight hardware modifications. Im basing this finding off 7 Jaguar Cd units I currently own. I wish I had noticed this 3 months ago when I had 15 of them. So im asking for everyone on the forums who owns a Jaguar CD to pitch in and help out. The Jaguar CD was released on 9/21/1995 in the USA and Atari reported the initial 20k units were sold out, with the majority of those going to preporders. Ok so Atari isnt the most trust worth with sales data. But logically if 20K units were available at launch they would of had to be manufactured before 9/21/1995. First Finding The Jaguar CD Serial numbers and MFG dates The earliest MFG date I have on my CD systems is March 1995 with a Serial NO of 05382 The oldest MFG date I have on my CD systems is December 1995 with Serial NO of 535c26465 You notice a variation in the Serial # all systems manufactured in December 95 start with 535C ad then a 5 digit number. All systems manufactured earlier are just a 5 digit number. I believe this 5 digit number is the MFG number. If this is true my earliest Jaguar CD was #5382 and my latest was #26465. This is were I need your help in posting your MFG date and Serial # for any other variations. Second Finding Hardware Variations The older MFG dated systems have a different door hinge than the later models. The original systems hinge did not have the small rubber bubble modification on the right hand arm that would pop out when the door was open fully to prevent it from closing. The earlier systems did not have this and they would stay open with out the need for this rubber addition when open to there max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) My only Jag CD unit: Manufactured by Philips Serial No: 5359008798 Date of MFG: 9509 Model No: J8800 FCC ID: EBAJ8001 >> larger image << No "rubber bubble" (I think, not sure what you mean) Edited January 11, 2010 by Fox-1 / mnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I would help out with your research but my Jag stuff is packed up in storage right now. Maybe in a couple months I can check for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonner242 Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I would help out with your research but my Jag stuff is packed up in storage right now. Maybe in a couple months I can check for you. Same here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 You can find some serial numbers there. - 01943 Date of MFG : 9534 - 06773 Date of MFG : 9534 - 5359007669 Date of MFG : 9509 - 5359007802 Date of MFG : 9509 - 5359008207 Date of MFG : 9509 - 5359008517 Date of MFG : 9509 - 5359009408 Date of MFG : 9509 - 535B012720 Date of MFG : 9511 - 535B013083 Date of MFG : 9511 - 535B018230 Date of MFG : 9511 - 535B018350 Date of MFG : 9511 - 535C23544x Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C021489 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C022839 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C022876 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C023234 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C023453 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C024331 Date of MFG : 9512 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busterm Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) You can find some serial numbers there. - 01943 Date of MFG : 9534 - 06773 Date of MFG : 9534 - 5359007669 Date of MFG : 9509 - 5359007802 Date of MFG : 9509 - 5359008207 Date of MFG : 9509 - 5359008517 Date of MFG : 9509 - 5359009408 Date of MFG : 9509 - 535B012720 Date of MFG : 9511 - 535B013083 Date of MFG : 9511 - 535B018230 Date of MFG : 9511 - 535B018350 Date of MFG : 9511 - 535C23544x Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C021489 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C022839 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C022876 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C023234 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C023453 Date of MFG : 9512 - 535C024331 Date of MFG : 9512 Thanks for the link. cant read German but the quote really helped. It looks like starting in September at release they started changing serials around. First with 5359, 535b,535c with the new Serial number starting with 5390 they stated the MFG as Year/ Month. Prior to September they are Year/Week. Also on JSII someone has posted Serials for Dev unit as well. It looks like so far there is 4 Retail Production runs and 1 Dev unit run Interesting stuff indeed Edited January 12, 2010 by busterm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busterm Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 My only Jag CD unit: Manufactured by Philips Serial No: 5359008798 Date of MFG: 9509 Model No: J8800 FCC ID: EBAJ8001 >> larger image << No "rubber bubble" (I think, not sure what you mean) Yea bubble isnt really the best description but here are pictures of with and with out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 cant read German but the quote really helped.Speaking German wouldn't have helped you anyways, as this is French 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busterm Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 cant read German but the quote really helped.Speaking German wouldn't have helped you anyways, as this is French HAHA sorry my bad.. Man i need to broaden my language horizon =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredifredo Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Don't forget to read this document ( in iraki language ) : http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jaguar-64bit/Liens/500277ra.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Had to bump this Necro thread because its so damn interesting.. I think there had to be more than 20k produced and the bubble/non bubble cd door thing is a good clue to that effect. Case for the Hardly Boys for sure.. Edited April 18, 2014 by travistouchdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felyx Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Interessant topic but so far, are the small differences in the cd door and in serial number enough to guess how many Jag CD were produced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I will look for it this evening I got a few normal Jaguar CD-ROMS and a Developers CD-ROM don't know if these had other production numbers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Here iis mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinSEGA Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Here is mine. Manufactured by Philips, serial number 03907, manufacture date 9534, which could either be March 4th 1995 or April 3rd 1995. EDIT: Also, no clear bubble-like thing for the hinge. Edited April 19, 2014 by NinSEGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Westphal Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I will post a pic when I get get mine from Brad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Fun Fact: The older units (well the ones I have opened) have their BIOS in a socket, where as the newer units have the BIOS soldered directly to the PCB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinSEGA Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Fun Fact: The older units (well the ones I have opened) have their BIOS in a socket, where as the newer units have the BIOS soldered directly to the PCB. I'd prefer the socketed ones. That's proof they cheapened out on later models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Here's my one which is hooked up (other is boxed away and out of reach at the moment). This one has the plastic stopper on the hinge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Westphal Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Here's mine: Phillips Serial # 04179 Date of MFG : 9534 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The 95XX is probably the year then the week number isn't it? That's not uncommon for electronics. Doubtful it's a year followed by day/date or date/day. EDIT: OK, back in thread it says it was year/week then later year/month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I'd prefer the socketed ones. That's proof they cheapened out on later models. Perhaps, but I think it more likely that they were producing the initial units hardware before they had fully finalised the BIOS. As such they may not have had ROMs ready in time for the production run of the hardware, so rather than delay things simply build them with sockets and then fit the ROMs later. I cannot say (haven't done a side by side comparison) but I don't think any other parts of the units are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstupp618 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Mine is serial number 1789 Date of manufacture 9534 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
032-Bias Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) Revive the thread! Manufacture date: 9512 Serial number: 535c25942 Plastic "bubble" on hinge: yes Additional information: still has original working laser assembly Edited December 30, 2015 by 032-Bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) Here is the info off mine: Manufactured by Philips Serial NO: 06442 Date of MFG: 9534 No 'bubble' on the hinges. Edited December 31, 2015 by -^Cro§Bow^- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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