Xbox Live support is ending for the original Xbox

[Hyper_Eye]

They are first disabling automatic renewal for customers that only use their Live accounts on original Xbox's. They have also said they will be contacting those members. What they are offering whether it be a reimbursement or something else is unknown.

[atarian63]

Soo.. does this mean that Xbox Live, is now Xbox DEAD? At least if you happen to have an original xbox.

[moycon]

Soo.. does this mean that Xbox Live, is now Xbox DEAD? At least if you happen to have an original xbox.

 

Why would you of all people care what it ment? You've stated before that you hated the orginal Xbox (If I remember right, based on 3 games you played on it) Even if this news ment you could no longer boot up an original Xbox, I doubt you would be effected in the least.

[Atariboy]

Microsoft has restored Xbox 1 content to their servers and will maintain that access until Xbox 1 support ends in April. That's a nice move and I think fully fullfils their responsibilities to their Xbox 1 users like myself (Will give myself the chance to download patches and such to a spare console now, as well as grab some DLC I hadn't gotten around to).

 

Still, I wonder if Xbox Live users that own a 360 but still utilize their accounts on the original console will recieve anything.

 

The loss of Xbox 1 access isn't a deal breaker at all as far as my situation is concerned, I'd still be a subscriber without it. But just the same, it was much of the reason why I was subscribing to the service. I don't actually play much online multiplayer on the 360, so I was partly justifying my $50 or so annual subscription due to it allowing me to access patches and downloadable content for Xbox 1 games (I've regularly been adding to my collection since the system was discontinued).

 

It would be nice to see some sort of compensation like 1 free XBLA game of my choice to soften the blow a bit.

[Hyper_Eye]

I actually play on Live with my original Xbox. As someone who uses the same account on both consoles I also wonder if they will offer anything to people who use Live the way I do. I don't think they will.

[atarian63]

Soo.. does this mean that Xbox Live, is now Xbox DEAD? At least if you happen to have an original xbox.

 

Why would you of all people care what it ment? You've stated before that you hated the orginal Xbox (If I remember right, based on 3 games you played on it) Even if this news ment you could no longer boot up an original Xbox, I doubt you would be effected in the least.

Humor? Guess it's lost on the clueless..

[moycon]

Humor?

 

LOL Yeah Xbox Dead that is funny.

 

Since 80% of your Modern Gaming posts in the past have been lame anti-MS posts I thought you were just taking your usual crack.

Glad to hear you were just funnin. Still kind of odd you ignore most Modern Gaming posts and post in ones about a system you hate.

[Tr3vor]

Soo.. does this mean that Xbox Live, is now Xbox DEAD? At least if you happen to have an original xbox.

 

Why would you of all people care what it ment? You've stated before that you hated the orginal Xbox (If I remember right, based on 3 games you played on it) Even if this news ment you could no longer boot up an original Xbox, I doubt you would be effected in the least.

 

 

i cant wait for that day, when they discontinue a system when a new one comes out, they will make a new system and deactivate the old so youd need to buy the new one to continue...

[Hyper_Eye]

i cant wait for that day, when they discontinue a system when a new one comes out, they will make a new system and deactivate the old so youd need to buy the new one to continue...

 

I believe consumers have an error tolerance. This would be off the charts.

[moycon]

i cant wait for that day...

 

I wouldn't hold your breath while you're waiting.

[RickHarrisMaine]

The message I got from Microsoft a couple of days ago said that I would be given a pro-rated refund on my credit card, and a 3 month voucher for Xbox live for the 360, plus a downloadable game for the 360, Banjo-Tooie. Considering I found my xBox live membership card unopened and unused in a $2.00 Gamestop game, I'll do okay out of this.

[Mord]

i cant wait for that day, when they discontinue a system when a new one comes out, they will make a new system and deactivate the old so youd need to buy the new one to continue...

 

I believe consumers have an error tolerance. This would be off the charts.

 

I use to believe that but I find I'm always underestimating the flexibility of modern gamers and their ability to bend over.

 

I'd say if console makers actually attempted that you'd get a sizable number of gamers declare it was necessary to spur support for the new console and to drive sales so the developers could get paid for their current work. I'm not saying there wouldn't be complaints, I just don't think it'd be as off the charts as you think.

[Video]

i cant wait for that day, when they discontinue a system when a new one comes out, they will make a new system and deactivate the old so youd need to buy the new one to continue...

 

I believe consumers have an error tolerance. This would be off the charts.

 

I use to believe that but I find I'm always underestimating the flexibility of modern gamers and their ability to bend over.

 

I'd say if console makers actually attempted that you'd get a sizable number of gamers declare it was necessary to spur support for the new console and to drive sales so the developers could get paid for their current work. I'm not saying there wouldn't be complaints, I just don't think it'd be as off the charts as you think.

 

Unfortunately, I'd have to agree with you here. I was (and always will be) very anti DLC, for one thing, I do (unlike most people) still remember the time when console games did something the vast majority of computer games didn't......worked. Who doesn't have nightmares of purchasing that new game, only to be stuck with a coaster untill the company can be "bothered" to produce a patch....just to make it work.

 

Unfortunately, people like me are WAY to far and few between. And, like the above poster said, "gamers" will just bend over and give a good loud "yes sir, can i have another one sir"

 

Eh, but as I've also said many times, there is WAY more out there now than I will ever be ble to play in my lifetime (unless something really drastic happens medically" so when we goto DL only consoles, pay for play consoles, etc, I'll just stick to the classics, there will always be more than I can play on there anyways, and all that stuff I've missed over the years will keep me occupied for a long time to come.

 

It's just sad that the next few generations are the ones who will really be hurt by all this. Not say 10 generations down the road, they won't remember the "good ol days" so they won't know any better, but the next generation, and the one after will be hitting the brakes some point in the future and saying "woah, I don't wanna...."but then, it'll be to late.

[Hyper_Eye]

Well Microsoft pulled the plug about 24 hours ago and so it is no longer possible to login to Live with an original Xbox or an original Xbox title. But there are currently about 60 Halo 2 players still standing who refuse to log out.

 

See the count of players left here: http://www.bungie.net/Projects/Halo2/default.aspx

 

The number fluctuates up and down as people become idle or active.

 

One player named DoM has his live stream still up: http://www.justin.tv/o0domination0o#r=null~

 

Finish the fight!

Edited April 16, 2010 by Hyper_Eye

[Video]

Well Microsoft pulled the plug about 24 hours ago and so it is no longer possible to login to Live with an original Xbox or an original Xbox title. But there are currently about 60 Halo 2 players still standing who refuse to log out.

 

See the count of players left here: http://www.bungie.net/Projects/Halo2/default.aspx

 

The number fluctuates up and down as people become idle or active.

 

One player named DoM has his live stream still up: http://www.justin.tv/o0domination0o#r=null~

 

Finish the fight!

that's awesome. Back to n-o-l.....rip live

 

24 players at the moment.

 

One thing...Halo 2 was (supposedly) released for the PC. Though I've never seen any evidence that it exists. Would that run on live? or would it run on it's own network? I mean, after all, if Bungie is still up, there's no reason to need live, right?

Edited April 17, 2010 by Video

[johnon]

One thing...Halo 2 was (supposedly) released for the PC. Though I've never seen any evidence that it exists. Would that run on live? or would it run on it's own network? I mean, after all, if Bungie is still up, there's no reason to need live, right?

Oh, it exists. It runs on Windows Live, so even though it's linked to your XBL profile, I really doubt MS pulling the plug on OXBL will affect it at all.

[Atariboy]

Still 10 players active nearly two 1/4 days after the plug was unplugged. Probably a couple of dozen inactive players sleeping right now.

 

Bet they're not playing Halo 2 on 360's.

[Tr3vor]

Well Microsoft pulled the plug about 24 hours ago and so it is no longer possible to login to Live with an original Xbox or an original Xbox title. But there are currently about 60 Halo 2 players still standing who refuse to log out.

 

See the count of players left here: http://www.bungie.ne...o2/default.aspx

 

The number fluctuates up and down as people become idle or active.

 

One player named DoM has his live stream still up: http://www.justin.tv...ation0o#r=null~

 

Finish the fight!

 

 

Dang! There is still 7 people online! I bet Microsoft is getting a little angry at them. You know, I was going to get xbl for my old xbox, but this happened. If I got it anyway, I would only get a voucher for the 360 xbl. what a waste of money.

[Atariboy]

Dang! There is still 7 people online! I bet Microsoft is getting a little angry at them. You know, I was going to get xbl for my old xbox, but this happened. If I got it anyway, I would only get a voucher for the 360 xbl. what a waste of money.

 

Nothing to get angry about, it's been independent from Microsoft since Live was turned off at the end of the 15th. Halo 2 used player hosted servers and Xbox Live was only needed for the matchmaking. So as long as they stayed in multiplayer after entering before the closure, they could stay as long as they wished until their internet connection, power, or console failed.

 

Bungie turned off their statistic tracking a couple of weeks ago, but there are still 2 players remaining from the last count I saw yesterday. Guess they're holding out trying to be the last person on Xbox Live (Although technically they haven't been on Xbox Live for almost a month) since I doubt they're having any fun now with just two players left.

Edited May 9, 2010 by Atariboy

[Rev]

Hey, now the games on Xbox 1 are finally the same as the gamecube versions!!!!!!

 

 

shooters like:

 

ghost recon 2

red faction

timesplitters

007

 

etc etc

[Hyper_Eye]

Nothing to get angry about, it's been independent from Microsoft since Live was turned off at the end of the 15th. Halo 2 used player hosted servers and Xbox Live was only needed for the matchmaking. So as long as they stayed in multiplayer after entering before the closure, they could stay as long as they wished until their internet connection, power, or console failed.

 

Actually Xbox Live was only used for the initial connection and the Live features. They did not shutdown any servers. They disabled the ability to login with an original Xbox title. The friends and messaging features continued to work after the service was disabled. But the major part, being the matchmaking service, was completely hosted by Bundie. Bundie said they would not shut it down until there were no players remaining. It was really Bundie that enabled them to continue playing. Without Bundie's servers they would not have been able to continue.

Edited May 9, 2010 by Hyper_Eye

[Atariboy]

Actually Xbox Live was only used for the initial connection and the Live features. They did not shutdown any servers.

 

That's what I said.

 

But the major part, being the matchmaking service, was completely hosted by Bundie.

 

It's Bungie, and no, the matchmaking ability utilized Microsoft's Xbox Live services like any non EA Xbox 1 title did. The only role Bungie played was in tracking statistics and utilizing those to catch cheaters.

 

Bundie said they would not shut it down until there were no players remaining.

 

Bungie never said that. They said they were in no rush to shut down the statistic tracking and were pleased to see gamers that didn't want to let go of their work.

 

Without Bundie's servers they would not have been able to continue.

 

Bungie never hosted any servers or was involved in matchmaking. And their stat tracking has been shut down for quite a while (The last component to go offline) and hasn't affected the ability of the remaining players to keep playing.

 

Xbox Live was basically a bridge to get somewhere. Since they never left their location, it hasn't mattered that the bridge is gone since they can stay until they leave. All Xbox Live 1 functions of Xbox Live have ceased and Bungie has ceased tracking statistics, yet people are still playing without any Microsoft/Bungie functions running in the background since they were only ever necessary to reach a server, send messages, download content, and track statistics. The actual online gameplay once in the game was independent of Microsoft/Bungie.

 

It's the same reason in the past when Xbox Live would go down for maintenance that people could continue playing in a game they joined before the shutdown as long as they wanted until leaving (As long as it used player hosting like most Xbox titles do).

Edited May 10, 2010 by Atariboy

[Hyper_Eye]

I know what Live is and I know what it isn't and I know how online games work in general, as someone who has worked on online game development for quite some time, and I know how playing games on Live is and is not different. As far as who hosts what and what has and has not been shutdown you certainly haven't provided any evidence that what you are saying is more or less correct than what I have said. You can say that I haven't either and you would be correct but I really don't care enough. It is dead and the 2 people still online aren't heroes or fighting for any cause. Now they are simply stubborn and holding out for some reward that nobody is actually going to give them. There is nothing special about not turning your console off. Now... if they were playing 100% of the time since the service was shut down... that would be something... if not impossible. They should disconnect and jump on kai or xbconnect so they can get a real game.

[Atariboy]

Calm down, it's not a big deal either way.

 

I simply saw the thread linked in another one and opened it up to see if there had been any recent activity, and thought I'd see if there was anyone still hanging on to Halo 2 almost a month later

[Hyper_Eye]

I am calm. That was the point of my post was to say that it isn't something worth searching out and backing up and going back-and-forth about. Don't worry. You didn't upset me or rile me up.

 

I will say this about Xbox Live being discontinued for the Xbox... I haven't really missed it as much as I thought I would. So much of what I do with the original Xbox is outside the confines of the system MS presented that Live really was only a tiny percentage of my usage. Right now most of my time spent with the Xbox is development and I hope to be a small part of ensuring that there is good online gameplay for the Xbox for years to come. Hopefully a few people will find that Odamex can provide some of that for them.