Chris Leach #1 Posted February 20, 2010 Can you use this rule of thumb to price another hack cart of the same or lesser quality....cooolest cart ever!!! Lets just say you take a cart that is a "Hack" and it has 260 games in 1 Does this make it .000157894737 * 260 = 0.0410526316 for the cart itself. .05 cents is a bit extreme I will give you that, so Lets round it up to $1.00 maybe even $5.00 or $10.00, just cause I am a fair guy to begin with....(even less since 2 of the carts in this lot dont even work in the first place?) What is your honest opinion of this general thought? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koopa64 #2 Posted February 20, 2010 I say just price it however you want. Pirate carts are an odd thing. Or if you can't make up your mind, have people make you an offer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage #3 Posted February 20, 2010 Did you see a 76,000-in-1 cart sell for $12? What even has that many ROMs? I assume you just made that up, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pats1717 #4 Posted February 21, 2010 I think it is between the buyer and seller to agree on the price, pirate carts are cool and all Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonlunch #5 Posted February 21, 2010 I think it is between the buyer and seller to agree on the price, pirate carts are cool and all ^^ Is probably trying to be as constructive as possible, and not break down, into the childish games, while being somewhat humorous in a sad sad situation. ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i2a2n2 #6 Posted February 21, 2010 Can you use this rule of thumb to price another hack cart of the same or lesser quality.... Lets just say you take a cart that is a "Hack" and it has 260 games in 1 Does this make it .000157894737 * 260 = 0.0410526316 for the cart itself. .05 cents is a bit extreme I will give you that, so Lets round it up to $1.00 maybe even $5.00 or $10.00, just cause I am a fair guy to begin with....(even less since 2 of the carts in this lot dont even work in the first place?) What is your honest opinion of this general thought? so your going to try and sell something that isn't even yours... whats that called again? http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=1&catid=5&threadid=29280 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonlunch #7 Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) Can you use this rule of thumb to price another hack cart of the same or lesser quality.... Lets just say you take a cart that is a "Hack" and it has 260 games in 1 Does this make it .000157894737 * 260 = 0.0410526316 for the cart itself. .05 cents is a bit extreme I will give you that, so Lets round it up to $1.00 maybe even $5.00 or $10.00, just cause I am a fair guy to begin with....(even less since 2 of the carts in this lot dont even work in the first place?) What is your honest opinion of this general thought? so your going to try and sell something that isn't even yours... whats that called again? http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=1&catid=5&threadid=29280 I'm not sure is he's exactly trying to sell this. I think he is trying to debate what an item is worth.... After the fact that he agreed upon said items value in a contract. Now that the item is already shipped to him, and he is in possession of it, he is trying to deny said items value, and is refusing to pay for said item, in means of the value of money he agreed it was worth, or in the items he was supposed to ship, in trade, and never did. All in all though, I think it is all just a ploy, in his childish games, to draw an argument here on AtariAge. He obviously has developed himself more in this forum, so perhaps he thinks someone here will have his back, on ripping someone off in a trade? Or perhaps he will try to make himself out to be a victim again, like he did on NA. The dude holds items ransom, and makes demands. He changes his accounts names. He says he is going to do one thing, and then never comes through. He is just full of games. I hope the members here look into his string of untrustworthy actions, and ignore him. He is pretty hard to ignore though, when he purposely tries to draw attention tom himself again, and again. I heard he was banned from NeoGeo, he is also on the verge of being banned from NA. Just not a safe guy to deal with. Edited February 21, 2010 by Dragonlunch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cebus Capucinis #8 Posted February 21, 2010 This sounds like the separate issue was already adequately handled on the NintendoAge forums, so why bring it to AtariAge? Chris is just asking a simple question on our site, not bringing up all this unnecessary drama. This doesn't need to be on AtariAge at all. (and no, I'm not talking about Chris, like I said all he did was ask a simple question) My answer to the question is thus: You cannot value a "hack" cart based upon the number of games as a universal and simply use an equation to come up with how much the cart should be worth, in my opinion. The cart is a separate entity as a whole that will have different values based on rarity and the like. In the instance of a pirate multi-cart type thing, the whole IS greater than the sum of the parts, so one can't simply just go "Well, each game is valued at .0004 so that times X = $Y", because each game isn't necessarily valued at that much and that would be for each game as it exists, not for the pirate/hack cart as a whole as IT exists. That's just my unneeded two cents on it. Hey, would those two cents buy me a 50-in-1 cart? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDW #9 Posted February 21, 2010 Can you use this rule of thumb to price another hack cart of the same or lesser quality.... Lets just say you take a cart that is a "Hack" and it has 260 games in 1 Does this make it .000157894737 * 260 = 0.0410526316 for the cart itself. .05 cents is a bit extreme I will give you that, so Lets round it up to $1.00 maybe even $5.00 or $10.00, just cause I am a fair guy to begin with....(even less since 2 of the carts in this lot dont even work in the first place?) What is your honest opinion of this general thought? so your going to try and sell something that isn't even yours... whats that called again? http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=1&catid=5&threadid=29280 I heard he was banned from NeoGeo, he is also on the verge of being banned from NA. Just not a safe guy to deal with. Hey, wiener, I've dealt with Chris before, and he is a great guy to deal with. Unless you have solid facts to back those statements up, I suggest you keep your trap shut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonlunch #10 Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) "(even less since 2 of the carts in this lot dont even work in the first place?)" He has obviously brought over drama from NA. "Hey, wiener, I've dealt with Chris before, and he is a great guy to deal with. Unless you have solid facts to back those statements up, I suggest you keep your trap shut." I think if you went and actually read the post that was provided you would see the solid facts. Chris has acknowledged in his own words, that he received items, he was supposed to pay for in the form of a trade.. now he is flat out refusing to pay for the items in anyway, and is threatening to burn the games, holding feedback, and money over someones head. A real class act. Basically, he stole hundreds of dollars worth of goods, admits he has them, and refuses to pay for them. The facts are there for you to see. Edited February 21, 2010 by Dragonlunch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i2a2n2 #11 Posted February 21, 2010 Can you use this rule of thumb to price another hack cart of the same or lesser quality.... Lets just say you take a cart that is a "Hack" and it has 260 games in 1 Does this make it .000157894737 * 260 = 0.0410526316 for the cart itself. .05 cents is a bit extreme I will give you that, so Lets round it up to $1.00 maybe even $5.00 or $10.00, just cause I am a fair guy to begin with....(even less since 2 of the carts in this lot dont even work in the first place?) What is your honest opinion of this general thought? so your going to try and sell something that isn't even yours... whats that called again? http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=1&catid=5&threadid=29280 I heard he was banned from NeoGeo, he is also on the verge of being banned from NA. Just not a safe guy to deal with. Hey, wiener, I've dealt with Chris before, and he is a great guy to deal with. Unless you have solid facts to back those statements up, I suggest you keep your trap shut. all the facts are in the thread that I linked to. He is asking how much a game is worth that he has in his hands he's posting this in the Marketplace area so I can only assume that he is trying to sell said cart(s) when the said carts don't even rightly belong to him because he has yet to honor his end of the deal... pay the $ or send his side of the trade. not hold the items for ransom.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDW #12 Posted February 21, 2010 "(even less since 2 of the carts in this lot dont even work in the first place?)" He has obviously brought over drama from NA. "Hey, wiener, I've dealt with Chris before, and he is a great guy to deal with. Unless you have solid facts to back those statements up, I suggest you keep your trap shut." I think if you went and actually read the post that was provided you would see the solid facts. Chris has acknowledged in his own words, that he received items, he was supposed to pay for in the form of a trade.. now he is flat out refusing to pay for the items in anyway, and is threatening to burn the games, holding feedback, and money over someones head. A real class act. Basically, he stole hundreds of dollars worth of goods, admits he has them, and refuses to pay for them. The facts are there for you to see. I actually was commenting on the statement I quoted, feel free to read again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonlunch #13 Posted February 21, 2010 None the less, if you read the NA thread, you can easily see why he would have been banned from another forum. The suggestion that he was banned from Neogeo, came from Matt Nolan, who is a very esteemed member of the gaming community in general. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i2a2n2 #14 Posted February 21, 2010 and here is your proof http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/member.php?u=31301 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDW #15 Posted February 21, 2010 and here is your proof http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/member.php?u=31301 I'll take that with a grain of salt due to Neo-geo.com's reputation of being a warzone of trolls and poor mods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i2a2n2 #16 Posted February 21, 2010 and here is your proof http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/member.php?u=31301 I'll take that with a grain of salt due to Neo-geo.com's reputation of being a warzone of trolls and poor mods. no problem just thought I'd supply you with your proof that you were asking for here is the exact post that has him getting banned post #23 http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2835371#post2835371 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDW #17 Posted February 21, 2010 None the less, if you read the NA thread, you can easily see why he would have been banned from another forum. The suggestion that he was banned from Neogeo, came from Matt Nolan, who is a very esteemed member of the gaming community in general. Like I have stated before, I refuse to someone else's bad transaction change my opinion of a seller I've personally dealt with. How one perceives something molds their own reality, I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDW #18 Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) and here is your proof http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/member.php?u=31301 I'll take that with a grain of salt due to Neo-geo.com's reputation of being a warzone of trolls and poor mods. no problem just thought I'd supply you with your proof that you were asking for here is the exact post that has him getting banned post #23 http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2835371#post2835371 Thanks for the link, I personally think he might have been going through a rough time or something. All of my encounters with Chris have been nothing but pleasant. Speaking of warzones, I better leave this thread before I turn it into one. Edited February 21, 2010 by brandondwright Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the-topdog #19 Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) I'm not sure is he's exactly trying to sell this. I think he is trying to debate what an item is worth.... After the fact that he agreed upon said items value in a contract. Now that the item is already shipped to him, and he is in possession of it, he is trying to deny said items value, and is refusing to pay for said item, in means of the value of money he agreed it was worth, or in the items he was supposed to ship, in trade, and never did. All in all though, I think it is all just a ploy, in his childish games, to draw an argument here on AtariAge. He obviously has developed himself more in this forum, so perhaps he thinks someone here will have his back, on ripping someone off in a trade? Or perhaps he will try to make himself out to be a victim again, like he did on NA. The dude holds items ransom, and makes demands. He changes his accounts names. He says he is going to do one thing, and then never comes through. He is just full of games. I hope the members here look into his string of untrustworthy actions, and ignore him. He is pretty hard to ignore though, when he purposely tries to draw attention tom himself again, and again. I heard he was banned from NeoGeo, he is also on the verge of being banned from NA. Just not a safe guy to deal with. Dude, don't try to sugar-coat this... The SOLE reason you posted this in this thread was to besmirch another member here for something that happened on another website for a deal you had nothing to do with, unless you are Xtincthed. So let me be as direct as possible here... Were you the person that Chris was dealing with on NintendoAge? If not, then YOU had no right to even get involved in my opinion, you can just troll yourself on to another site. Edited February 21, 2010 by the-topdog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonlunch #20 Posted February 21, 2010 I'm not sure is he's exactly trying to sell this. I think he is trying to debate what an item is worth.... After the fact that he agreed upon said items value in a contract. Now that the item is already shipped to him, and he is in possession of it, he is trying to deny said items value, and is refusing to pay for said item, in means of the value of money he agreed it was worth, or in the items he was supposed to ship, in trade, and never did. All in all though, I think it is all just a ploy, in his childish games, to draw an argument here on AtariAge. He obviously has developed himself more in this forum, so perhaps he thinks someone here will have his back, on ripping someone off in a trade? Or perhaps he will try to make himself out to be a victim again, like he did on NA. The dude holds items ransom, and makes demands. He changes his accounts names. He says he is going to do one thing, and then never comes through. He is just full of games. I hope the members here look into his string of untrustworthy actions, and ignore him. He is pretty hard to ignore though, when he purposely tries to draw attention tom himself again, and again. I heard he was banned from NeoGeo, he is also on the verge of being banned from NA. Just not a safe guy to deal with. Dude, don't try to sugar-coat this... The SOLE reason you posted this in this thread was to besmirch another member here for something that happened on another website for a deal you had nothing to do with, unless you are Xtincthed. So let me be as direct as possible here... Were you the person that Chris was dealing with on NintendoAge? If not, then YOU had no right to even get involved in my opinion, you can just troll yourself on to another site. I'm not trying to troll. I actually had a great deal myself go through with Chris. I also tried to help him out, and encourage him to fix the situation. Chris gave me a really great deal on some stuff, and I held out my respect for him till the end. Till he was just too far gone. Threatening to burn peoples games. Stealing hundreds of dollars worth of items. Then making this post here on AA, making a mockery of the whole situation. His plan is working perfectly I guess. It is common courtesy, when you know a thief, to point him out to others. I am not trying to trash him. I am trying to make people aware. I hope people would do the same for me. If there is a known thief trying to make a trade with me, I would want someone there warning me first, so I could make my own judgment. Chris had an awesome reputation with me, now I wouldn't go near a trade with him. It's just the facts dude. He stole hundreds of dollars in items, and admitted it, and refuses to pay for them. Those are the facts, no trolling. If he can steal items, then make a thread mocking that he stole something and refuses to pay for it, and then get defended on his actions as a thief.. more power to him I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wccw mark #21 Posted February 21, 2010 chris is a great guy to buy,sell,trade with,based from my own experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtincthed #22 Posted February 21, 2010 I'm not sure is he's exactly trying to sell this. I think he is trying to debate what an item is worth.... After the fact that he agreed upon said items value in a contract. Now that the item is already shipped to him, and he is in possession of it, he is trying to deny said items value, and is refusing to pay for said item, in means of the value of money he agreed it was worth, or in the items he was supposed to ship, in trade, and never did. All in all though, I think it is all just a ploy, in his childish games, to draw an argument here on AtariAge. He obviously has developed himself more in this forum, so perhaps he thinks someone here will have his back, on ripping someone off in a trade? Or perhaps he will try to make himself out to be a victim again, like he did on NA. The dude holds items ransom, and makes demands. He changes his accounts names. He says he is going to do one thing, and then never comes through. He is just full of games. I hope the members here look into his string of untrustworthy actions, and ignore him. He is pretty hard to ignore though, when he purposely tries to draw attention tom himself again, and again. I heard he was banned from NeoGeo, he is also on the verge of being banned from NA. Just not a safe guy to deal with. Dude, don't try to sugar-coat this... The SOLE reason you posted this in this thread was to besmirch another member here for something that happened on another website for a deal you had nothing to do with, unless you are Xtincthed. So let me be as direct as possible here... Were you the person that Chris was dealing with on NintendoAge? If not, then YOU had no right to even get involved in my opinion, you can just troll yourself on to another site. i am the one he "scammed" on nintendoage At this point after 45 days Chris still has MY games, did NOT send his games and did NOT send me money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Defender II #23 Posted February 22, 2010 Can you use this rule of thumb to price another hack cart of the same or lesser quality.... Lets just say you take a cart that is a "Hack" and it has 260 games in 1 Does this make it .000157894737 * 260 = 0.0410526316 for the cart itself. .05 cents is a bit extreme I will give you that, so Lets round it up to $1.00 maybe even $5.00 or $10.00, just cause I am a fair guy to begin with....(even less since 2 of the carts in this lot dont even work in the first place?) What is your honest opinion of this general thought? I don't post very much, but enjoy reading and learning from what others have to say. I felt your post was one that was worth my time to respond to. I only state my honest opinion, so I don't label my posts "IMHO." You can use whatever rule of thumb you like to price a hack cart, ultimately the value of the item is what the current owner is willing to part with it for. Your method isn't logical to me for hack carts, but purhaps if the games were only ever sold on multi-game carts of varying combinations, and you are purchasing one of those carts it may be valid to calculate a value or offer. Since you asked for honest opinions about a general thought, and I gave you my answer, I have a few general thoughts, perhaps you can provide your ?honest? opinion on as well... When I agree to trade for something including shipping cost of my trade, I ship it. I make it my responsibility to find out the shipping cost before I agree to the trade. If I fail to verify the cost before I agree, that is my loss and I am legally responsible to ship my part of the contract. My bias... I have been ripped off for over $400 by a few people who quickly joined this forum, then split, see bad trader posts, both of them were new like you. If you want to change and have a good reputation here, follow through on your agreements with anyone who takes a chance buying/trading from/with you, and send what you agreed to for the property you have received. If you can't do that, please leave, because Atariage is for people who want to enjoy classic gaming and not deal with being ripped off. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Climber #24 Posted February 22, 2010 Can you use this rule of thumb to price another hack cart of the same or lesser quality.... Lets just say you take a cart that is a "Hack" and it has 260 games in 1 Does this make it .000157894737 * 260 = 0.0410526316 for the cart itself. .05 cents is a bit extreme I will give you that, so Lets round it up to $1.00 maybe even $5.00 or $10.00, just cause I am a fair guy to begin with....(even less since 2 of the carts in this lot dont even work in the first place?) What is your honest opinion of this general thought? I am wondering why someone says you ripped them off for several hundred dollars and you have not said anything to defend yourself or explain your side off the story. I am not saying you did it, just saying it seems a little weird you have not chimed in on this..unless it is true? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the.golden.ax #25 Posted February 22, 2010 Mods, I think it's time to lock this thread. AX 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites