I have your gold member right here, Microsoft

[+Random Terrain]

Lately, it seems like every new demo I want to try says you have to be a gold member or you can't play it. What is this crap? I have to go into debt to buy the Xbox 360, then I have to give them even more money to be a gold member or I can't even try the new demos that interest me? Microsoft can suck my gold member. That's right, I spray painted it gold.

[Mord]

Only spraypainted it? You lack resolve.

 

[Seob]

I hate it when the only thing they look at is how to get more $$$ back, to pay for the 360 hardware fiasco.

[Ghost Soldier]

If you break it down monthly it's alittle over 4.00 a month.

Edited February 28, 2010 by Ghost Soldier

[moycon]

If you break it down monthly it's alittle over 4.00 a month.

 

Nah not even, Snag a Gold member card from Amazon and it's around $3.33 a month. In any case, even if it was $4 a month, any person that would go into debt over that little amount is in a pretty sorry financial state. I would think lack of being able to play a demo would be the least of their problems!!

[Jess Ragan]

This is when you start a GameFly membership and play the ENTIRE games. It costs a lot more, but you get a lot more out of it than a Gold membership.

[+Random Terrain]

This is when you start a GameFly membership and play the ENTIRE games. It costs a lot more, but you get a lot more out of it than a Gold membership.

I heard a lot of bad things about GameFly, so I'm going to try to save 5 dollars a month and rent a game at Blockbuster. I can keep a game for six days and since most modern games are toilet paper games that can be finished in one to three days, six days should be more than enough time. Like you said, I'd rather pay a little more and play the whole game instead of giving Microsoft money so I can play a crappy demo.

[moycon]

Like you said, I'd rather pay a little more and play the whole game instead of giving Microsoft money so I can play a crappy demo.

 

I'm not so sure that's all your $3.33 a month gets you.

I tried to show you (at my cost) what great fun playing online co-op was, you obliviously weren't interested??

That's a question because you never let on one way or the other, but based on this topic it's easy to tell your feeling in regards to a Gold membership.

 

In any case, there's more to a Gold membership than demo's and it comes at a cost.

You should know bandwidth ain't free.

Besides most (all I think) of those Gold member only demo's are only like that for a week or two and then convert to where anyone can download them.

Look at it this way. Membership has it's privileges. Just quit whining and wait a few days if you're so cheap you can't afford the $3.33 a month.

[Jess Ragan]

I let my subscription lapse simply because there wasn't a reason to keep it going now that I have 3G internet. This stuff SUCKS for online gaming... I'm lucky to push it past 1M speeds. Also, I'm not a social person (as you might have noticed) and gaming with other people doesn't appeal to me as much as it did when I was growing up. So in short, Microsoft and its pay toll for online gaming can bite me.

[+Random Terrain]

I'm not so sure that's all your $3.33 a month gets you.

I tried to show you (at my cost) what great fun playing online co-op was, you obliviously weren't interested??

That's a question because you never let on one way or the other, but based on this topic it's easy to tell your feeling in regards to a Gold membership.

Thanks again for letting me try out online play, but I don't like playing online. When I play a game by myself, I'll get an idea, pause the game and write it down, or I'll remember that I needed to do something on my web site, pause the game and do that, or someone will call me and I'll have to pause the game and go deal with that. I play like a crackhead that has ADHD.

 

 

 

Besides most (all I think) of those Gold member only demo's are only like that for a week or two and then convert to where anyone can download them.

I haven't noticed any being for gold members, then switching, but I don't check the demos every day. And the gold member demos that are multiplayer only will never switch.

 

 

 

Look at it this way. Membership has it's privileges. Just quit whining and wait a few days if you're so cheap you can't afford the $3.33 a month.

You either need 8 dollars for one month, 16 dollars for 3 months, or 40 bucks for a year. It's not like you can pay 3 dollars a month. You actually need more cash at one time. I don't play online and a lot of cool games don't even have demos, so I'd rather pay 5 bucks a month to play a full game if I can. Some months I don't have enough food money, so I start looking around for things to sell. It has nothing to do with being cheap (embarrassingly stingy). I can either spend 5 dollars on a game rental once a month or I can be 'cheap' and save the 5 dollars for food so my belly won't try to crawl up out of my mouth to slap me in the face for wasting money on a game when I could have had food.

 

If you can believe valuatemysite.com, my site is worth 242,938 dollars, so if someone wants to buy my site for that much, they can have it, then I can be a little less cheap.

[moycon]

If you can believe valuatemysite.com, my site is worth 242,938 dollars, so if someone wants to buy my site for that much, they can have it, then I can be a little less cheap.

 

Really!? Is that site legit? That would be pretty cool to sell a site and get a large chunk of change like that.

[+Random Terrain]

If you can believe valuatemysite.com, my site is worth 242,938 dollars, so if someone wants to buy my site for that much, they can have it, then I can be a little less cheap.

Really!? Is that site legit? That would be pretty cool to sell a site and get a large chunk of change like that.

It's probably pure bullsh*t to make webmasters link to the site. It would be nice if that price is correct. I'd sell my site faster than you can say greasy diarrhea.

[+HammR25]

Demos are exclusive to Gold members for a certain amount of time then silver members can play them as well.

[Seob]

If you can believe valuatemysite.com, my site is worth 242,938 dollars, so if someone wants to buy my site for that much, they can have it, then I can be a little less cheap.

Really!? Is that site legit? That would be pretty cool to sell a site and get a large chunk of change like that.

It's probably pure bullsh*t to make webmasters link to the site. It would be nice if that price is correct. I'd sell my site faster than you can say greasy diarrhea.

It's total b*****. I just entered http://.com and that is valued at $200,050.

 

Back to topic,

 

It's a demo, to let one try out if a game is worth buying. So this should be free for download. I don't need to spend money on a demo, just to see if i want to buy it.

I'm a pc gamer from origin. I never had to pay to play a demo, or multiplayer game. Also my ps3 has free demo's and multiplayer games.

So tell me why i have to pay for a demo? I don't need to pay money if i want to testdrive a new car. So why do i need to pay for a game?

[moycon]

I don't need to spend money on a demo, just to see if i want to buy it.

 

Right, So you would wait a couple weeks and get the demo for free or I guess go to Gamestop where they will let you play any title before hand. Simple.

 

Also, you may not be able to use the PS3 argument for much longer.

 

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/02/03/sony.considering.charging.for.access.to.psn/

 

I think Sony knows it's online network pales in comparison to Xbox Live. The thing is, it's VERY expensive to build and maintain a fast, reliable network for millions of people. There was no doubt in my mind Sony would eventually have to start charging a fee to help foot the bill. This might bother some, but doesn't bother me. When it happens I'll support it. As someone who works at maintaining one of the biggest networks in the world. I completely understand.

[SoulBlazer]

Really? What do you do for work?

 

I totally agree with you about XBox Live. It's well worth the monthly cost.

 

And as someone else said, give it time and the demos will be available for silver members also.

 

Hey, I don't play much online much either. My fav thing about XBox Live? The games you can buy there. Classic arcade games, fun new games, and the indie games. Most of that stuff you can find somewhere else, but it's convient -- and a little cheaper -- to have it all in one place. Right now I'm playing the remake of Secret of Monkey Island, one of my fav adventure games for the PC from the 90's from Lucasarts.

[Mendon]

I'm a pc gamer from origin. I never had to pay to play a demo, or multiplayer game. Also my ps3 has free demo's and multiplayer games.

So tell me why i have to pay for a demo? I don't need to pay money if i want to testdrive a new car. So why do i need to pay for a game?

 

I remember the "good old days" when you could walk into Babbages or Software Etc. and they GAVE AWAY physical demo's by the handful for PC, Xbox, PS2, and GameCube. In today's world, you have to pre-order something if you want a physical copy demo. I don't know if it was the stores that started this trend or if the developers started it but I've always said that I will not pre-order something just to play a demo.

 

I've always wondered why the developers have gone along with this "delayed demo availability" promotion by MS, since the developers should want their demo in as many hands as possible and as quick as possible in order to gain chatter and sales. But then I look at PSN, where they average about 50% of the demo's that XBL gets, and figure that the developers must not really care about how many hands their demo's get into.

 

 

Mendon

[Mendon]

Also, you may not be able to use the PS3 argument for much longer.

 

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/02/03/sony.considering.charging.for.access.to.psn/

 

I think Sony knows it's online network pales in comparison to Xbox Live. The thing is, it's VERY expensive to build and maintain a fast, reliable network for millions of people. There was no doubt in my mind Sony would eventually have to start charging a fee to help foot the bill. This might bother some, but doesn't bother me. When it happens I'll support it. As someone who works at maintaining one of the biggest networks in the world. I completely understand.

 

As I've read on many online news stories, one difference between PSN and XBL that has enabled Sony to keep PSN free of charge is that Sony charges developers bandwidth fee's for putting demo's, games, DLC, etc on PSN. That is the main reason you don't see many demo's of PSN games and fewer demo's of commercial games than on XBL.

 

Sony and game developers have paid the bill for PSN so far and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see some sort of fee schedule built into PSN in the future. Will it be totally fee driven like XBL? Maybe not right away as Sony will start out with a tier system, i.e. you pay a fee for an enhanced experience but can still game online for free. But eventually, I believe that all online gaming will be based on fee's, whether it is console or PC.

 

Warcraft, Aion, Everquest, Champions Online, etc all charge monthly fee's and have millions of gamers. I'm sure that MS and Sony have noticed this.

 

 

Mendon

Edited March 1, 2010 by Mendon

[AtariLeaf]

Thank goodness I'm not an online gamer.

[Emehr]

Thank goodness I'm not an online gamer.

I'll buy that for a dollar

[bloodreptile]

Thank goodness I'm not an online gamer.

I'll buy that for a dollar

So you do not get to play the Horde of Gears of War? You are missing out on what the Console was made for.

[+HammR25]

I'd much rather just download a demo than have the developer waste time pressing and shipping a less complete demo to stores.

[Video]

Thank goodness I'm not an online gamer.

I'll buy that for a dollar

Seconded

 

I don't do the Movies thing, don't care to play the immature kids online, got better methods for talking to friends, and would take playing a game IRL with people any day of the year over some online shit, and I sure as HELL won't support DD (or broken games with the excuse of online to fix them).....all that's left is the demos...and unfortunately, most of them only demo the "multiplayer" aspects of the games...

 

It's kinda a case of "Strike one, strike two, strike three, strike four, strike......(etc, etc, etc...)"

[MagitekAngel]

Anyone else in here miss the Sega Channel?

[Video]

Anyone else in here miss the Sega Channel?

Sega Channel was the Shizzle for real. 20+ full games loaded to your doorstep for a relatively low fee (I thinkit was $10 a month, one of my friends here said thet it was $13, don't remember) and no BS.....Only thing that would have made it cooler IMO would have been enough memory to save the game (playing big games was hell on that thing, good thing I was introduced early in life to the concept of UPS )

Sega Channel, you will be remembered.