rchennau Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Bumping an old thread. Any updates on the cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppetmark Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 We are making progress. I have made 80+ Carts. We are getting the first ones into the hands of the folks that are going to do some development. The others will be sold at a very reasonable rate to promote futher testing and program development. Dan has donated quite a large sum of money to the project and I have well over 1000 hours of time into it and we are fine with that becasue we really just want to get the carts out to the community and we feel since there is not a lot of software available yet, it's not fair to charge a lot for the Cart. We are currently discussing the best and most fair way to sell the Carts. I am thinking about using e-bay with a low starting bid and letting the community determine what they are worth. Any input is welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBuell Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Or you could put up a quantity with some random price and see what you get Buy it Now offers at. Just an idea. I'd still like to try my hand at coding for it (I still think a MUD client would be hilarious) - what do you use, if anything, for 80 column libraries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomguy Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Ebay and paypal fees are fairly high. I'd rather that all the money go to you guys. And with multiple copies up on ebay they'd go for different prices and cause some frustration for some buyers with some paying much more than the others. I'd be much happier with you choosing what you think is a fair price and putting them up here for that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppetmark Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Or you could put up a quantity with some random price and see what you get Buy it Now offers at. Just an idea. I'd still like to try my hand at coding for it (I still think a MUD client would be hilarious) - what do you use, if anything, for 80 column libraries? We aren't using any 80 column libraries currently, but it should be possible to use the ones that are available. Ebay and paypal fees are fairly high. I'd rather that all the money go to you guys. And with multiple copies up on ebay they'd go for different prices and cause some frustration for some buyers with some paying much more than the others. I'd be much happier with you choosing what you think is a fair price and putting them up here for that price. That's a good point about the possibility of different prices. I am not too worried about the fees, as it will make order processing easier. regardless, I think I a leaning toward finding a fair price and sticking to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I am thinking about using e-bay with a low starting bid and letting the community determine what they are worth. Any input is welcome. I was interested but I'll likely let it go if I need to go through the eBay hassle. If I want a new product I want to send money and receive the product within a reasonable time, not going to eBay, watch items, bid on one, loose it, bid on another, loose it again and then make other bids to end up with multiple, possibly over prized, items. This may be nice for people who have plenty of free time with nothing else to do but that ain't me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Using eBay would be nice for payment, tracking, etc. But bidding on this wouldn't help. Either it will come in too low, or go too high. (for many reasons). Either way not establishing an accurate set price. Maybe the price should be a combination of cost and effort. Set the price. Seems carts around $39-69 sell well. But it depends on how much effort and cost went into them. And if you include all the software, etc that, to me, also raises the cost while increasing the value for some. If you want serious development, I'm sure there are a few hard core developers (or a group of) to partner with to accomplish that goal. Provided to them at no cost. Lab loaners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppetmark Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) I am thinking about using e-bay with a low starting bid and letting the community determine what they are worth. Any input is welcome. I was interested but I'll likely let it go if I need to go through the eBay hassle. If I want a new product I want to send money and receive the product within a reasonable time, not going to eBay, watch items, bid on one, loose it, bid on another, loose it again and then make other bids to end up with multiple, possibly over prized, items. This may be nice for people who have plenty of free time with nothing else to do but that ain't me. Yea, I get that. I won't do that. But I think Buy it now might work ok, If you want serious development, I'm sure there are a few hard core developers (or a group of) to partner with to accomplish that goal. Provided to them at no cost. Lab loaners We are providing free carts to those who we are hoping will do some serios development. It's the rest of this batch (50-60 left) that we are going to sell. I appreciate everyone's input so far. Thank you! So, At this point I am thinking of putting them on ebay using "buy it now' only, no auction, or maybe a link on my website to purchase the carts through PayPal. Either way, I am going to use PayPal for the money transaction. As far as price is concerned, The price will be $25.00 plus priority mail shipping. Edited June 13, 2012 by puppetmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomguy Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Holy crap! That's cheap. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enito Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Hi, im too interesed...where i can get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppetmark Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Holy crap! That's cheap. Thank you! Thanks, like I said, we want to do what is fair, and without a "killer app" yet, We think this is best. This project has always been about getting ethernet capability to the Atari 8-bits, and never about money. I only ask that we try to get these out to as many people as possible, so I please only order one or two at the most. If at some point someone wants to do software deveopment and needs multiple carts, just send me an e-mail or PM and we will do our best to accomodate. I will post here and on the website when the carts can be purchased. Right now, I need to get the carts back from being tested, plus I am finishing up teaching a class which ends July 3, Once that is done, I will start taking orders. Edited June 13, 2012 by puppetmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Build it and they will come. I'd like to get a hold of one of these myself as well, and write some software for it. If you can convince the emulator authors to include the functionality in the emulators, that will go a long way to getting some software built too. (VBXE for example) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin_Lunchbox Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Ebay and paypal fees are fairly high. I'd rather that all the money go to you guys. And with multiple copies up on ebay they'd go for different prices and cause some frustration for some buyers with some paying much more than the others. I'd be much happier with you choosing what you think is a fair price and putting them up here for that price. That's a good point about the possibility of different prices. I am not too worried about the fees, as it will make order processing easier. regardless, I think I a leaning toward finding a fair price and sticking to that. ECrater is pretty cool. You set a fixed price there. I don't think you'll have to pay any fees. I think most transactions on ECrater are paid for with Paypal, but this is not a requirement (at least not by ECrater). I don't think you have to provide a credit card or bank account number to buy or sell at ECrater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppetmark Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 ECrater is pretty cool. You set a fixed price there. I don't think you'll have to pay any fees. I think most transactions on ECrater are paid for with Paypal, but this is not a requirement (at least not by ECrater). I don't think you have to provide a credit card or bank account number to buy or sell at ECrater. I will definitely chaeck that out. Ebay is convenient but I don't like the fees either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I will definitely chaeck that out. Ebay is convenient but I don't like the fees either! What's wrong with the "send me a PM and money if you want one" way? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 ebay is not my friend.. because shipping 40$. brr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I will definitely chaeck that out. Ebay is convenient but I don't like the fees either! What's wrong with the "send me a PM and money if you want one" way? I agree, it would be more fair to have a fixed price and sent directly... Otherwise, there will be a bidding war and drive up the cost, leaving some people without one... Jay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppetmark Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I will definitely chaeck that out. Ebay is convenient but I don't like the fees either! What's wrong with the "send me a PM and money if you want one" way? I agree, it would be more fair to have a fixed price and sent directly... Otherwise, there will be a bidding war and drive up the cost, leaving some people without one... Jay Good point, I don't want to do anything unfair. I was just looking for a way to help with the order processing. It's nice how you can ship through eBay and they get the mailing label ready to print and kept the buyer notified. I was thinking of doing a "buy it now" on ebay but I am going to look at e-crater instead, if that doesn't look like it will help then I think I will just do what others have done and take orders here on the forum. Thanks for everyone's input, I do appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creature XL Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I would like one or two. Want to try to develop games for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Be careful, I'd limit purchase quanity to one. Why would you need more than that? (to resell, or hold onto for later reselling). If you sell at $25 I can see it now, I'll take 5 please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Hello CreatureXL In the game MidiMaze the players can choose which interface they want to use. Would be nice if your games would have that same feature. Maybe even with different drivers that can be added at a later point. Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Just downloaded the IP65 package... something else to study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatta Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I would like to register my interest in one of these too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Hmm.. do we need to define a new file extension for Atari 8-bit webpages - so designers can use ATASCII graphics, and integrate music with POKEY? What about for Twitter posting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 i preffer minimal code.. - BODY, P tags only, /BODY html 4.1 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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