linuxfanman Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) Hey guys, I just got a Super Pong console C-140 today and I was wondering if the Atari 2600's 9 volt adapter will work with it. It takes 6 volts in battery power so I was wondering if anyone knows if it has a 7805 voltage regulator to step down the 2600's adapter from 9 volts to 5.5v .. I could take it apart to look but I figured I'd give the forums a shot first to see if any knows or has schematics... I don't want to plug and pray with the adapter... Thanks.. Edited April 13, 2010 by linuxfanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydc Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Hey guys, I just got a Super Pong console C-140 today and I was wondering if the Atari 2600's 9 volt adapter will work with it. It takes 6 volts in battery power so I was wondering if anyone knows if it has a 7805 voltage regulator to step down the 2600's adapter from 9 volts to 5.5v .. I could take it apart to look but I figured I'd give the forums a shot first to see if any knows or has schematics... I don't want to plug and pray with the adapter... Thanks.. Hi linuxfanman, The Atari Super Pong C-140 take 6V DC (200mA) as input voltage adaptor. But for your question about if it has a 7805, the answer is "NO". See for yourself (attachement file). Hope this help you out, have fun! --- Sly DC --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydc Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Wooops!! Seems that the GIF file has a problem, so here's the schematic in JPG instead. --- Sly DC --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxfanman Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 Wooops!! Seems that the GIF file has a problem, so here's the schematic in JPG instead. --- Sly DC --- Thanks alot man... I'll have to dig around here to see if I can find one in my adapter tote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABOOMER! Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 tengo un Ultra Pong Atari, que no se enciende, no tengo el adaptador original pero lo he probado con uno genérico y con baterías y parece que no hay flujo de corriente, ya que no sale sonido del altavoz, como lo obtuve La segunda mano tenía restos de líquido de la batería vacía y un poco de barniz que cubre los circuitos fue descalcificado en la placa, todo lo demás parece estar bien, ya lo limpié todo con alcohol isoprpilico, revisé las soldaduras pero aún no hay ¿Hay alguna sugerencia para reemplazar algunos de los circuitos o el manual de mantenimiento para verificar posibles fallas? Gracias por adelantado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar1063 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Just some basic suggestions, first make sure that your power supply is putting out the correct DC voltage, sometimes when those old DC power supplys get old they start producing AC voltage. Then check and see if you have the correct voltage across the big filter capacitor inside the game unit. I don't have a schematic for this, as I don't have an Ultra Pong, But a lot of Atari games use the 74xx voltage regulators, Usually the 7805. You might want to be sure the output voltage of the voltage regulator is correct. If you don't have any voltage at the output of the voltage regulator it's probably time to replace it. A lot of times these would go bad from overheating when people would plug in the wrong power supply into the game. Hopefully I understood what you Typed correctly, I do not speak Spanish I just use Google translate. Solo algunas sugerencias básicas, primero asegúrese de que su fuente de alimentación esté utilizando el voltaje de CC correcto, a veces, cuando esas viejas fuentes de alimentación de CC envejecen, comienzan a producir voltaje de CA. Luego verifique y vea si tiene el voltaje correcto a través del condensador de filtro grande dentro de la unidad de juego. No tengo un esquema para esto, ya que no tengo un Ultra Pong, pero muchos juegos de Atari usan los reguladores de voltaje 74xx, generalmente el 7805. Es posible que desee asegurarse de que el voltaje de salida del regulador de voltaje sea correcto. Si no tiene ningún voltaje en la salida del regulador de voltaje, probablemente sea hora de reemplazarlo. Muchas veces, esto podría ir mal por el sobrecalentamiento cuando las personas conectan la fuente de alimentación incorrecta en el juego. Espero haber entendido lo que escribiste correctamente, no hablo español, solo uso el traductor de Google. Edited August 4, 2019 by wildstar1063 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABOOMER! Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Se entiende perfecto la traducción amigo, gracias, subo fotos del la placa del ultra Pong, ya que no identifico el regulador que mencionas, son componentes algo antigüos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar1063 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Strangely, I don't see any obvious power supply support circuitry on that board, Usually there would be a big Cylindrical filter capacitor somewhere on the board, and I don't see one, Was that the only board inside the unit? Also was there a model number printed on the bottom of the unit? Also was there a model number printed on the bottom of the unit? It is possible that all of the power supply circuitry was built directly into the original external power supply. If you can get me the model number I will look around and see if I can find some schematics Curiosamente, no veo ningún circuito de soporte de fuente de alimentación obvio en esa placa. Por lo general, habría un gran condensador de filtro cilíndrico en algún lugar de la placa, y no veo uno. ¿Era esa la única placa dentro de la unidad? ¿También había un número de modelo impreso en la parte inferior de la unidad? Es posible que todos los circuitos de la fuente de alimentación se hayan incorporado directamente a la fuente de alimentación externa original. Si me puede dar el número de modelo, miraré alrededor y veré si puedo encontrar algunos esquemas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar1063 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Also, since the board was covered with crap from an old leaky battery you might check the traces that were covered with the battery goo, and make sure there is still continuity between the traces on the circuit board. Sometimes the traces will visually look OK but there will still be no continuity. You might get an VOM with the continuity checker, Just to be sure. Además, dado que el tablero estaba cubierto con basura de una batería vieja con fugas, puede verificar los rastros que estaban cubiertos con la batería y asegurarse de que todavía haya continuidad entre los rastros en el tablero de circuitos. A veces, las huellas se verán visualmente bien, pero aún no habrá continuidad. Es posible que obtenga un VOM con el verificador de continuidad, solo para estar seguro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar1063 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) From the pictures of the board, it looks like it might be this one http://old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=3&c=1279 Según las imágenes de la placa, parece que podría ser esta http://old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=3&c=1279 Edited August 4, 2019 by wildstar1063 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar1063 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) I enlarged the picture of the board, And there are a couple of traces that look suspect, it's hard to tell with the quality of the enlargement but it looks like there might be a break in that trace right below the Atari information printed on the board I have circled the trace in red that you might check out with a Continuity checker. There are actually several others that look suspect on the board. I would definitely check them out. Amplié la imagen de la pizarra, y hay un par de huellas que parecen sospechosas, es difícil saberlo con la calidad de la ampliación, pero parece que podría haber una ruptura en esa huella justo debajo de la información de Atari impresa en la pizarra. He encerrado en un círculo el rastro en rojo que podrías verificar con un verificador de Continuidad. En realidad, hay varios otros que parecen sospechosos en el tablero. Definitivamente los verificaría. continuity tester. Edited August 4, 2019 by wildstar1063 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABOOMER! Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, wildstar1063 said: Strangely, I don't see any obvious power supply support circuitry on that board, Usually there would be a big Cylindrical filter capacitor somewhere on the board, and I don't see one, Was that the only board inside the unit? Also was there a model number printed on the bottom of the unit? Also was there a model number printed on the bottom of the unit? It is possible that all of the power supply circuitry was built directly into the original external power supply. If you can get me the model number I will look around and see if I can find some schematics Curiosamente, no veo ningún circuito de soporte de fuente de alimentación obvio en esa placa. Por lo general, habría un gran condensador de filtro cilíndrico en algún lugar de la placa, y no veo uno. ¿Era esa la única placa dentro de la unidad? ¿También había un número de modelo impreso en la parte inferior de la unidad? Es posible que todos los circuitos de la fuente de alimentación se hayan incorporado directamente a la fuente de alimentación externa original. Si me puede dar el número de modelo, miraré alrededor y veré si puedo encontrar algunos esquemas. Hola, en efecto, es todo lo que encontré de placa, nada suelto excepto el altavoz que está unido a la carcasa, voy a subir imágenes del modelo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABOOMER! Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Una mejor imagen de la placa, me temo que algún tipo de corrosión haya dañado la impresión de la placa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABOOMER! Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, wildstar1063 said: From the pictures of the board, it looks like it might be this one http://old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=3&c=1279 Según las imágenes de la placa, parece que podría ser esta http://old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=3&c=1279 Exactamente es el modelo que tengo, solo que he buscado esquemas o manuales de mantenimiento y no he tenido éxito, no soy experto ni especialista, pero me gusta desarmar antigüedades electrónicas para restaurarlas, he podido hacer la salida AV con la ayuda de un composite, de un Super Pong que ya no enviaba señal al TV, pero si había sonido en el altavoz, obtuve una imagen clara y nitida de la consola, espero poder restaurar esta ultra Pong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar1063 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) I made a modification similar to the one you did on the Super Pong recently, except that I used one of those commercialComposite boards from eBay and I used the original RCA jack that is integrated into the pong board instead of adding a second one. Here is the link to my thread on that: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/293730-super-pong-c-140-composite-mod-completed/ As far as your Ultra Pong, I was also unable to find a schematic, I think you are going to have to Cut and solder Individual wires to replace those Corroded traces on the board. From what I saw there are probably going to be a lot of them to replace. But it's not impossible. You just need to get some wire and some solder and a continuity tester and start testing all the traces that look bad and if you don't get continuity through the trace just replace it with a wire. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hice una modificación similar a un super Pong recientemente, excepto que usé una de esas placas comerciales de eBay y usé el adaptador RCA original que está integrado en la placa en lugar de agregar una segunda. Aquí está el enlace para mi hilo en ese: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/293730-super-pong-c-140-composite-mod-completed/. En cuanto a su Ultra Pong, tampoco pude encontrar un esquema, creo que tendrá que cortar y soldar cables individuales para reemplazar esos rastros corroídos en el tablero. Por lo que vi, probablemente habrá muchos de ellos para reemplazar. Pero no es imposible. Solo necesita obtener un poco de cable y algo de soldadura y un probador de continuidad y comenzar a probar todas las trazas que se ven mal y, si no obtiene continuidad a través de la traza, simplemente reemplácela con un cable. Edited August 5, 2019 by wildstar1063 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken C Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Seems like that Super Pong schematic might be wrong. I have an Atari Super Pong that I've just taken apart and the potentiometers are around 800k and only allow about 3/4 of a turn of travel. Does that mean that they are 1M pots? The schematic reads "1k2", so that's1200 ohm or 1.2k. Isn't that wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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