Pokemon black/white?

[Tr3vor]

Alright, who blacame up with pokemon black/white. First I think they're loosing thier minds, with the world today, who knows how people are going to take it? Second, I think they are running out of ideas, black and white are the most regular, common colors ever, they used to make games on precious stones, like diamonds, but now just black and white?

Edited April 13, 2010 by Tr3vor

[Mendon]

I don't know about Black & White.... I'm still wondering why there has never been a full-fledged Pokemon game on any of the Nintendo consoles (SNES, GameCube, Wii). Seems the consoles only get Pokemon puzzle and arena games.

 

 

Mendon

[MagitekAngel]

Nobody's losing their minds: these people know full well that their latest generation of digital heroin will fly off the shelves the minute they drop. Pokemon prints money; they could call the next ones Pokemon Peestain and Pokemon Poosmudge and everyone - myself included - would buy them.

[johnon]

I had only one thing to say on this subject...

 

...racial jokes ensue...

[moycon]

black and white are the most regular, common colors ever

 

Technically black isn't a color at all so your whole theory is flawed. Sorry.

[Video]

Why not? Black vs White, it's like Blue vs red in most other games (including Pokemon) They could call it good and evil, or hell, shit and piss and it would still sell.

 

"Pokemon SHIT and PISS, Now available in UNLIMITED quantities for a limited time......stock up on shit and piss now!!! Coming soon, Pokemon Vomit! WOO"

 

black and white are the most regular, common colors ever

 

Technically black isn't a color at all so your whole theory is flawed. Sorry.

 

That would depend on weather you're talking about the color of light, or pigment. In light, Black is the abscense of all color, in ;igments, black is the presence of all color.

[moycon]

That would depend on weather you're talking about the color of light, or pigment. In light, Black is the abscense of all color, in ;igments, black is the presence of all color.

 

http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html

 

# 3 - The Most Accurate and Complete Answer

 

No, black is not a color; a black object absorbs all the colors of the visible spectrum and reflects none of them to the eyes.

 

A black object may look black, but, technically, it may still be reflecting some light. For example, a black pigment results from a combination of several pigments that collectively absorb most colors. If appropriate proportions of three primary pigments are mixed, the result reflects so little light as to be called "black." In reality, what appears to be black may be reflecting some light.

[MCHufnagel]

I don't know about Black & White.... I'm still wondering why there has never been a full-fledged Pokemon game on any of the Nintendo consoles (SNES, GameCube, Wii). Seems the consoles only get Pokemon puzzle and arena games.

 

 

Mendon

 

The Gamecube had two of them. They weren't at all like the handheld games (and not as good IMO), but they were full RPG's.

[MagitekAngel]

One of the main selling points behind Pokemon is trading with your friends. On N64 that just wouldn't have been possible; in fact, not on Gamecube either, with it's nonexistent online functionality. On Wii online trading would technically be feasible, but without a robust friend system like on Xbox Live it would all be impersonal and mechanical, and therefore pointless. As much as I hate to say it, Pokemon is still in part a social experience.

[Video]

One of the main selling points behind Pokemon is trading with your friends. On N64 that just wouldn't have been possible; in fact, not on Gamecube either, with it's nonexistent online functionality. On Wii online trading would technically be feasible, but without a robust friend system like on Xbox Live it would all be impersonal and mechanical, and therefore pointless. As much as I hate to say it, Pokemon is still in part a social experience.

 

I don't see why it wouldn't have been possible, instead of having the "instant mail" system of the pokemon games, it could have had a more realistic "actually mailing it" system. The only thing that would be missing is the "instant gratification" of being able to see you're newly harvested pokemon instantly, though you could kill the game and reload you're save, somehow that's just not the same.

 

That would depend on weather you're talking about the color of light, or pigment. In light, Black is the abscense of all color, in ;igments, black is the presence of all color.

 

http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html

 

# 3 - The Most Accurate and Complete Answer

 

No, black is not a color; a black object absorbs all the colors of the visible spectrum and reflects none of them to the eyes.

 

A black object may look black, but, technically, it may still be reflecting some light. For example, a black pigment results from a combination of several pigments that collectively absorb most colors. If appropriate proportions of three primary pigments are mixed, the result reflects so little light as to be called "black." In reality, what appears to be black may be reflecting some light.

Yep, found it on the internet so it's clearly fact...

 

Though by their own definition, black (objects) are "colored" (as you are simply combining the pigment colors of Red, Yellow, and Blue to produce black)

 

They only want it to "not be a color" because it's not pretty, where any of the pigments alone, or any combination short of all, would result in some brilliant color.

Edited April 15, 2010 by Video

[moycon]

Though by their own definition, black (objects) are "colored" (as you are simply combining the pigment colors of Red, Yellow, and Blue to produce black)

 

If you re-read it, I think that point was it might look like black to you combining pigment, but wouldn't ever be considered true black. If it was called Pokemon Near Black or even Pokemon Pigment Produced Close to Black...maybe.

 

I think it's one of those things where you could look at it from different perspectives and get different answers and be right either way. For the purpose of this thread, and because I thought the response was humorous, I'm going to stay stepped on the "not a color" side of the fence today.

[Video]

Not really. If you find (or find someone that finds) anything in existence that is black.....without using pigments, there might be an argument. But then, we may have discovered perpetual motion, overunity, free energy, a cure for death, or a cure for taxes or any number of other things by then. (yes, I know that last one is a bit of a stretch )

[moycon]

Not really. If you find (or find someone that finds) anything in existence that is black.....without using pigments, there might be an argument.

 

Black isn't necessarily a thing Video. Ever been down in a cave? There's no pigment. There is also no light. It's black. Black as Pokemon Black.

 

Things like perpetual motion are just fiction.

[Pyromaniac605]

I don't know about Black & White.... I'm still wondering why there has never been a full-fledged Pokemon game on any of the Nintendo consoles (SNES, GameCube, Wii). Seems the consoles only get Pokemon puzzle and arena games.

 

 

Mendon

I agree a full on Pokemon game on SNES would have been awesome.

 

Darren

[Video]

Not really. If you find (or find someone that finds) anything in existence that is black.....without using pigments, there might be an argument.

 

Black isn't necessarily a thing Video. Ever been down in a cave? There's no pigment. There is also no light. It's black. Black as Pokemon Black.

 

Things like perpetual motion are just fiction.

 

Ah, but it is black because there is no light, not because there is no pigment. (or is it still black when you shine a light? I'd suggest getting batteries or a new bulb )

 

I don't know about Black & White.... I'm still wondering why there has never been a full-fledged Pokemon game on any of the Nintendo consoles (SNES, GameCube, Wii). Seems the consoles only get Pokemon puzzle and arena games.

 

 

Mendon

I agree a full on Pokemon game on SNES would have been awesome.

 

Darren

 

Yeah, and the funny thing is, the SNES was still having a few games pressed for it when Pokemon first came out. They could have even made it X-band compatible, which would have given the SNES the same functionality as the Gameboy Link cables.

[moycon]

it is black because there is no light,

 

That's fine.

 

It's black and it's not a color.

You stated it depended how a person looked at it, and now you know how I looked at it.

My first post stands.

 

(But you're right, in some cases it could be)

Next let's figure out which came first, the chicken or the egg. Let's do it in our own thread though.

[Pyromaniac605]

HOORAY!!! MOAR POKEMANS! :D :D :D :D :D :D

 

Anyone else feel a 3DS coming on? *shiver*

 

Darren

[Video]

3D pokemon? Ugh...don't we got enough pokemons though? The concept was argueably dated when it first came out. It's so out dated at this point, I haven't even picked up a new game since the early GBA days

 

Though I imagine 3DSi would get a pokemon....er...two pokemons. Pokemon 2D and pokemon 4D. Yep...play them both for the full 3D experience (it evens out )

 

it is black because there is no light,

 

That's fine.

 

It's black and it's not a color.

You stated it depended how a person looked at it, and now you know how I looked at it.

My first post stands.

 

(But you're right, in some cases it could be)

Next let's figure out which came first, the chicken or the egg. Let's do it in our own thread though.

Not really, it's perception vs reality. In reality, everything in even a dark cave still has color, the perception is a limitation of the human body, not reality.

[moycon]

Not really,

 

Yes...Really.

 

You admitted it yourself.

 

That would depend on weather you're talking about the color of light, or pigment.

 

Are you arguing against your own words now, or have you figured out this enigma in the past few days (Maybe you decided black only exists if it's manufactured now?) and are now trying to convince the rest of the world (or maybe just me) your final thoughts on the subject are gospel?

 

No opinion on the chicken and the egg eh??

 

I'd add a smiley sticking out his tongue but Video used them all up in his last post.

[Tr3vor]

Oh wow, 3DS, I'm so excited... not. I hate gimmicks like these, just make a normal console with kick ass games!

 

 

[Video]

Not really,

 

Yes...Really.

 

You admitted it yourself.

 

That would depend on weather you're talking about the color of light, or pigment.

 

Are you arguing against your own words now, or have you figured out this enigma in the past few days (Maybe you decided black only exists if it's manufactured now?) and are now trying to convince the rest of the world (or maybe just me) your final thoughts on the subject are gospel?

 

 

Nice, you realize that was in my first response to you're obvious ignorance of such a simple matter right And yes, it does matter. You were saying black is the abscense of all color.....which it is.....if you are talking about light. What were we talking about? Oh yeah, Pokemon Black and white. Hmmm....would we be talking about a Pokemon as a creature? No? Maybe as a cartridge? Hmmm...close enough. (though admittedly, there could be a color called Pokemon, no real reason why not ) Physical objects, not light in other words. What is this? Wow, the rules for color, are when applied to pigments instead of light, reversed. Who would have thunk? Well, obviously not you.

 

You want short and simple? That's cool....

In light, Black is the absence of all color, while white is the presence of all color.

In Pigment, Black is the presence of all color, white is the absence of all color.

I suppose the real argument came because of a few missing words, such as "light" in you're original post on black not being a color, at least I kept saying "Pigment" I suppose you could be right, at least....but only half, as you did not specify light or pigment, I guess I could assume you meant color in general....but assume is all I can do.

Anyways, At least try to look it up

 

For shits and giggles, I'll now provide you're complete original post, and the relevant portion of my reply post

 

black and white are the most regular, common colors ever

 

Technically black isn't a color at all so your whole theory is flawed. Sorry.

 

 

That would depend on weather you're talking about the color of light, or pigment. In light, Black is the abscense of all color, in ;igments, black is the presence of all color.

 

Have fun with that one

 

No opinion on the chicken and the egg eh??

 

I'd add a smiley sticking out his tongue but Video used them all up in his last post.

 

Certainly, show me the relevance to the post, any of them.

 

Anyhow, I'll let you have at it, since you're only goal in this conversation is apparntly to squirt your brain out your bum, Oh well, at least we can see you got some

 

Oops... before closing, I better do this though :P :P :P :P (can I do a squinty one? ;P Please?) [edit] damn apparently not, eh, learn something new every day.

 

Oh wow, 3DS, I'm so excited... not. I hate gimmicks like these, just make a normal console with kick ass games!

 

Yeah...You know? I said the same thing about the DS...Yeah, I want/need an extra screen, a touchscreen, a mic (now a camera) You know? I look back on the dozens of DS games I have now, and the games that are the best use little to none of these features (like I said when the thing came out, though I'm just some crazy guy who doesn't know anything )

Edited April 20, 2010 by Video

[moycon]

You want short and simple?

Thanks but I'm familiar with the concepts. I posted a URL that mentioned both which apparently you disregarded because it was information found on the internet. Fact is, it already states what you did, just more thoroughly and with visuals. Why you think I need to do further searches is beyond me. There is no argument. You are just repeating information I posted days ago.

 

You were saying black is the abscense of all color.....which it is.....if you are talking about light.

 

Which I already said I was and which is why I stated it.

It stands no matter how many times you reply, how sarcastic and demeaning you are, or how long of a reply you make.

 

"Sense of humor" Video...focus less on suggesting people differentiate between light and pigment (seriously?) and focus more on that.

Especially on a video game forum.

[Tr3vor]

wow, what have I started? a color war?

[moycon]

a color war?

 

There's really no war in my eyes. Near as I can tell Video just felt that although I was technically right in my joke, there was another side to the way a person thinks in regards to black and finds it important I realize this. Thing is, it's information well known to me, and it's information I posted in my second post. I have no clue why he keeps repeating it over and over , pondering , assuming, and lecturing while insinuating I'm ignorant when he does it.

 

I will say this. I have never played a traditional Pokemon game which is crazy because I am a huge RPG fan, and from what I've seen watching my brother play, the series is very much one. Part of the reason is probably because I am not a big hand held fan. In fact when I was watching my brother (and I think I might have even played for about 10 minutes) it was on a GB emulator. I have an original GB, and one of the older GB Advanced and even a DS, but no Pokemon! I was merely responding to be humorous.

 

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. (especially in a Pokemon thread.)

 

Maybe I'll start with one of these two Pokemon games. I'll let you know if controversy follows.

[Tr3vor]

a color war?

 

There's really no war in my eyes. Near as I can tell Video just felt that although I was technically right in my joke, there was another side to the way a person thinks in regards to black and finds it important I realize this. Thing is, it's information well known to me, and it's information I posted in my second post. I have no clue why he keeps repeating it over and over , pondering , assuming, and lecturing while insinuating I'm ignorant when he does it.

 

I will say this. I have never played a traditional Pokemon game which is crazy because I am a huge RPG fan, and from what I've seen watching my brother play, the series is very much one. Part of the reason is probably because I am not a big hand held fan. In fact when I was watching my brother (and I think I might have even played for about 10 minutes) it was on a GB emulator. I have an original GB, and one of the older GB Advanced and even a DS, but no Pokemon! I was merely responding to be humorous.

 

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. (especially in a Pokemon thread.)

 

Maybe I'll start with one of these two Pokemon games. I'll let you know if controversy follows.

 

well, not a war, but a funny argument about colors.