NES top loader

[Video]

I'll have to dig it out of storage, but it looks just like the SNES or 64 MOV port.

 

I don't know what all hooks to it, but it does support AV through it. (edit, I think some of the SNES and 64 supported alternative like RGB, or SVideo, I don't imagine the NES does, though I never have with the other systems either so )

Edited July 11, 2010 by Video

[SRGilbert]

Cool that you got one. I know the RF issue is far overblown, I've never had problems the few times I've used it, though it seems every toplaoder around here had MVO ports on them so it's not like we were locked into using it anyways. (I'm told that's supposedly rare, but I see WAY to many of them)

 

Weird, never heard that before. Can anyone else verify that?

[+Mitch]

Cool that you got one. I know the RF issue is far overblown, I've never had problems the few times I've used it, though it seems every toplaoder around here had MVO ports on them so it's not like we were locked into using it anyways. (I'm told that's supposedly rare, but I see WAY to many of them)

 

Weird, never heard that before. Can anyone else verify that?

 

Yes, there were apparently two late revisions to the US top loader that are pretty rare. The first one fixed the vertical lines issue but was still only RF. The second removed the RF connection and switched to composite via the standard Nintendo A/V plug.

 

The last one is the one I'm looking for.

 

Mitch

[godslabrat]

FWIW...

 

--- Original Message ---

From: Aaron <[email protected]>

Received: 7/11/10 3:12:31 PM PDT

To: Nintendo <[email protected]>

Subject: Top loading NES

 

Dear Nintendo:

 

I have a question about the redesigned, top-loading NES that was released after the introduction of the SNES. I know it was supposedly RF-only. Was it ever redesigned to use a SNES-style av-out port?

 

Thank you for any help you could offer.

 

Aaron

 

From: "Nintendo Customer Service" <[email protected]>

To: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Top loading NES <<#422483-779044#>>

Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:55:11 -0700

 

Hello Aaron,

 

Thanks for contacting us. In answer to your question, Nintendo never released a version of the NES with an analog A/V out port. I hope this clarifies everything for you.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Alain Dao

Nintendo of America Inc.

 

Nintendo's home page: http://www.nintendo.com

 

 

 

I'm not saying there couldn't be such a revision, but it's odd that Nintendo itself would be unaware of it.

Edited July 13, 2010 by godslabrat

[SRGilbert]

FWIW...

 

--- Original Message ---

From: Aaron <[email protected]>

Received: 7/11/10 3:12:31 PM PDT

To: Nintendo <[email protected]>

Subject: Top loading NES

 

Dear Nintendo:

 

I have a question about the redesigned, top-loading NES that was released after the introduction of the SNES. I know it was supposedly RF-only. Was it ever redesigned to use a SNES-style av-out port?

 

Thank you for any help you could offer.

 

Aaron

 

From: "Nintendo Customer Service" <[email protected]>

To: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Top loading NES <<#422483-779044#>>

Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:55:11 -0700

 

Hello Aaron,

 

Thanks for contacting us. In answer to your question, Nintendo never released a version of the NES with an analog A/V out port. I hope this clarifies everything for you.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Alain Dao

Nintendo of America Inc.

 

Nintendo's home page: http://www.nintendo.com

 

 

 

I'm not saying there couldn't be such a revision, but it's odd that Nintendo itself would be unaware of it.

 

I smell a conspiracy. If anyone has photographic evidence, I'd really like to see it. Otherwise, I have to assume you guys are crazy.

[PsychoKittyNet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLfcBrk5ydc

 

YouTube vid of a guy with what appears to be a stock AV Top Loader

[kool kitty89]

Cool that you got one. I know the RF issue is far overblown, I've never had problems the few times I've used it, though it seems every toplaoder around here had MVO ports on them so it's not like we were locked into using it anyways. (I'm told that's supposedly rare, but I see WAY to many of them)

 

Huh, that sounds like they actually might have switched from RF to AV only in late models, more like the AV Famicom.

 

The video issue isn't so much RF (don't think it's significantly worse than the toaster), but the composite video signal itself has more noise in it, namely vertical bands/lines on the screen. (and not the faint ones from dot crawl sometimes seen on frontloaders)

 

 

 

 

I'll have to dig it out of storage, but it looks just like the SNES or 64 MOV port.

 

I don't know what all hooks to it, but it does support AV through it. (edit, I think some of the SNES and 64 supported alternative like RGB, or SVideo, I don't imagine the NES does, though I never have with the other systems either so )

SNES outputs RGB and S-video (except the SNES2, which also drops RF and adds super sharp composite video). N64 outputs S-video and can be modded for RGB (the NTSC versions can at least ironically PAL seems far more difficuly). GC has S-video and RGB.

 

No NES outputs anythign other than composite video or RF. The PPU only outputs composite (like the TMS9918 and I think TIA, not seperate Y/C like the C64, A8-bit or many others, or Y'PbPr of the TMS9928 and derivatives).

Playchoice 10 arcade boards have a modified PPU using RGB, but that's the sole exception.

 

Unfortunately the composite output from the NES isn't particularly good, pretty heavy dot crawl unless you have the sharpness down on your TV. (or a blurry picture in general) Such that you see odd diagonal scrolling artifacts when scrolling the screen. (see it in some youtube captures too)

Edited July 14, 2010 by kool kitty89