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Dear God! It's like a giant scrabble game is attacking you. Weird!

 

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This is so cool!

 

I mean, it's been great the last couple years with how many previously unseen prototypes have been discovered, but a whole new game that no one has ever mentioned before? Glorious!

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Yes, and this is no Prototype I think. It has a complete lable and look like a released game.

 

The only known copy of this game. So it must be a rarity of 11. :D ;)

 

But it look like that the box and manual is missing for that game, when there was some out. :sad: :?

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i am the guy who found this game. i have already sent the roms to atariage. The Game works fine in stella, but it is missing a few lines on the bottom, because it is in pal format.

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i am the guy who found this game. i have already sent the roms to atariage. The Game works fine in stella, but it is missing a few lines on the bottom, because it is in pal format.

 

Say dash, do you have any idea how long it takes stuff to travel from Germany to the United States? I've done two deals recently (including one with an AA member) that are over a week+ old now, and I presume airmail should have made it from there to here in that time or less. I hope to God they weren't sent surface mail. :(

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at MegaManFan

 

my english is not very good, so perhaps you misunderstood me.

I dumped the roms and send the binarys via e-mail.

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Say dash, do you have any idea how long it takes stuff to travel from Germany to the United States?  I've done two deals recently (including one with an AA member) that are over a week+ old now, and I presume airmail should have made it from there to here in that time or less.  I hope to God they weren't sent surface mail. :(

 

@MegaManFan

From USA to germany can take ca. 2 weeks. So I think there is no problem, when there is only 1 week over. I hope that all arive good for you.

 

@dash

Du kannst ROMs dumpen für Atari 2600 VCS? Was braucht man den dazu? Woher bekome ich die Geräte?

Hätte nämlich auch einige interesante Spiele. Die ich dumpen würde.

Weis aber nicht wie das geht. Ist es sehr kompliziert?

 

PS: Sorry for my german, but I have ask dash, how to dump ROMs.

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Since MattyXB's question was in German, my answer will be too. ;)

 

Wenn du ein 7800 hast oder dir eins besorgen kannst, dann ist das ganz einfach. Die nötigen Programme und Anleitungen kannst du auf meiner Homepage finden. Das ist allerdings alles auf Englisch. Falls du damit Probleme hast, kannst du dich gerne per E-Mail melden.

 

Der Umbau einer PAL Konsole ist sogar noch einfacher als in der Anleitung beschrieben, denn die meisten haben den BIOS-Chip schon gesockelt. Da müsstest du dann höchstens noch eine Lötbrücke umsetzen. Dann musst du dir nur noch ein einfaches Kabel löten, was für dich als Elektroniker sicher kein Problem ist, und das neue BIOS auf ein EPROM brennen. Wenn du keinen eigenen EPROM-Brenner hast, dann kann dir vielleicht Jahfish weiter helfen. Der scheint ja bei dir in der Nähe zu wohnen und hat immerhin schon Thrust+ Module gebastelt (oder basteln lassen?).

 

 

Ciao, Eckhard Stolberg

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How about dumping a ROM without opening the case and

unsoldering it.

 

Wie über das Entleeren eines ROM, ohne den Fall zu öffnen und ihn abzulöten.

 

Sorry if that German sucks!

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Since MattyXB's question was in German, my answer will be too.  ;)  

 

Wenn du ein 7800 hast oder dir eins besorgen kannst, dann ist das ganz einfach. Die nötigen Programme und Anleitungen kannst du auf meiner Homepage finden. Das ist allerdings alles auf Englisch. Falls du damit Probleme hast, kannst du dich gerne per E-Mail melden.

 

Der Umbau einer PAL Konsole ist sogar noch einfacher als in der Anleitung beschrieben, denn die meisten haben den BIOS-Chip schon gesockelt. Da müsstest du dann höchstens noch eine Lötbrücke umsetzen. Dann musst du dir nur noch ein einfaches Kabel löten, was für dich als Elektroniker sicher kein Problem ist, und das neue BIOS auf ein EPROM brennen. Wenn du keinen eigenen EPROM-Brenner hast, dann kann dir vielleicht Jahfish weiter helfen. Der scheint ja bei dir in der Nähe zu wohnen und hat immerhin schon Thrust+ Module gebastelt (oder basteln lassen?).

 

 

Ciao, Eckhard Stolberg

 

Naja, mal sehen, habe zwar ein Atari 7800, aber dan würde ich mir lieber noch eins billig zulegen. Aber ich glaube nicht, das Jah Fish ein EPROM Brenner hat. Jedenfalls hatte er ihn bis vor kurzem nicht. Er hat sich bei Thurst + wohl nur um die Lable und Verpackung gekümmert.

 

Vielleicht bekommt man sowas auch mal irgendwo.

 

Sonst erst mal Danke für die Hilfe. Oder könnte ich ein gebranntes EPROM auch bei jemand kaufen, womit ich es dann machen könnte?

 

Oder könntes Du mir sowas (Ein fertiges Atari 7800 zum ROMdumpen)verkaufen, für ein guten Preis. Dann weis ich auch, daß es funktionieren würde.

 

Habe leider gar keine Ahnung von sowas beim Atari 2600 VCS.

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Thanks to Dash, you can now download the ROM and see some emulated screenshots here:

 

Words Attack

 

I captured these with z26 in PAL mode. It won't auto detect as PAL, for proper emulation you'll need to run it from a command line with a -5 parameter.

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Inside the ROM you can find this pattern:

XXX  X   X X  XXX X X X XX X XXX XXX  XXX XXX

X X X X X X X X X X X X X  X X X X X  X X   X

X X X X X X X XXX X X X XX X X X X X  XXX XXX

X X X X X X X X   X X X  X X X X X X  X X   X

X X  X  X X X XXX  X  X XX X XXX X X  XXX XXX

Reads like "HOMEVISION 83" to me, but three bits are wrong. :idea:

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Actually it looks like Nomevisioin 83.

Yes, maybe. But if the E has an bit error, why not the H too?

 

And Homevision is at least a company name I know. Maybe a redump may help. dash?

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Actually it looks like Nomevisioin 83.

Yes, maybe. But if the E has an bit error, why not the H too?

 

I'm not convinced the E actually has an error. It could very well have been intended as a lowercase 'e'. :)

 

..Al

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Ah, that makes sense! This could very well be just another Homevision game. There should be some 40 titles out there, that we hardly know. Well, we probably know most of them in pirated form, but not the Homevision versions - I think.

 

Cheers,

Marco (waiting for Thomas to slap me around with some tech info that falsifies my claim) ;)

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The other games look all like Prototypes. (Not 100% sure, but no lables).

 

Maybe Words-Attack is too only a Prototype? The only one with great Picture Lable? :?

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Yes, maybe. But if the E has an bit error, why not the H too?  

 

And Homevision is at least a company name I know. Maybe a redump may help. dash?

 

@Thomas

 

i will do a redump in the next days, and send it to you

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The other games look all like Prototypes. (Not 100% sure, but no lables).

 

Maybe Words-Attack is too only a Prototype? The only one with great Picture Lable?  :?

About 15% of the ROM are still unused, so it could be a prototype.

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Maybe its all lowercase and you missed a line or two? IE:

 

X                     X    X

X

XXX  X   X X  XXX X X X XX X XXX XXX  XXX XXX 

X X X X X X X X X X X X X  X X X X X  X X   X 

X X X X X X X XXX X X X XX X X X X X  XXX XXX 

X X X X X X X X   X X X  X X X X X X  X X   X 

X X  X  X X X XXX  X  X XX X XXX X X  XXX XXX

 

homevision :)

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