qix_maniac Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) I've done some reading and research and notice Pastfinder for Atari 800xl has 2 cartridge variations or labels for Pastfinder. Can anyone confirm this? and do you have pics to show differences? I hear one cartridge has "Activision" embedded on back of cartridge and HES version does not? Plus lable of HES version only has activision on top of lable and no writting on bottom of lable like activision version with year and © info at bottom... which one is more rare? the HES version or Activision label variation? and difference in game play? your thoughts? Edited October 15, 2010 by qix_maniac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 I have the HES one and what you say is correct. The picture looks like it's been zoomed in and cropped funny. The game is exactly the same however and unless you really looked at the label, you'd never notice the difference. I'd say that the Activision version is rarer, I've seen more HES versions than Activision. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qix_maniac Posted October 18, 2010 Author Share Posted October 18, 2010 I have the HES one and what you say is correct. The picture looks like it's been zoomed in and cropped funny. The game is exactly the same however and unless you really looked at the label, you'd never notice the difference. I'd say that the Activision version is rarer, I've seen more HES versions than Activision. Tempest Thanks for explanation. I always tought HES meant HesWare but I guess not since they say Activion on the label. Maybe Hes is Activision UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 They are two companies, Looks like HES is an australian company that distributed the games. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Entertainment_Suppliers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) I'm confused then. Atarimania shows two versions and only one picture under the HES version? Does anyone have side by side pics of both? Atarimania ranks this cart as a 7 for Activision version and 8 for HES! This is much more than that. In 6 years I've only seen one NIB version and it is for sale now on eBay Germany. Edited December 9, 2011 by chrislynn5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FULS Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Hi, Here is a photo of my Activision one. Maybe someone could post a HES version. Hope this is useful, Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 That would make mine, I think, Activision's copy. I'll try to take a picture today. I really don't understand why HES took 4 games (?) and re-distributed them. Why change a label slightly, without including your mark, instead of fully rebranding it. I guess creating these 4 games for Australia only? And if the games are not PAL then that makes even less sense. Thanx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Hi, Here is a photo of my Activision one. Maybe someone could post a HES version. Hope this is useful, Doug Is that the Activision one? Mine looks just like that, but I always assumed it was HES because of the way the picture was cropped and the lack of copyright info on the bottom. Mine is in an Activision shell as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Odd to have 2 different scores for the same game, well as far as I know the games is exactly the same bar different distributions.. Was one played as PAL and the other NTSC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FULS Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Hi, I just assumed this Cart was Activision since it has Activision on the front label and ingraved in the back of the cart. I did buy this on Ebay from a person in Australia. So your saying this might be a HES Cart? eBay Auction -- Item Number: 280778088290 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qix_maniac Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) I believe it is HES for sure. Especially since HES carts came in that plastic shell. I have the same cart and it is HES although my Pastfinder for HES the back does not say "Activision" it's just smooth with no writing. I also have activision pastfinder and at bottom of label says "Audiovisual Concept, Label and Program c 1984 Activision, INC CC-104-04" I'm trying to upload pictures but it's not working for some reason???? Edited December 9, 2011 by qix_maniac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tjlazer Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Yes that is right, the HES one looks like a homebrew attempt gone wrong! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) WOW! eBay Auction -- Item Number: 280776624601 Listed for $594 in Germany. I gotta admit that is a rare find. I have one and it was very hard for me to get it. Edited December 10, 2011 by tjlazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) And look at what I got the other day! I hope I don't get shafted! Edited December 10, 2011 by tjlazer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qix_maniac Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 And look at what I got the other day! I wonder if I will be scammed. eBay Auction -- Item Number: 300630062734 Congratulations! personally I would not of told anyone until I had received those carts in hand! you never know when someone will contact the seller and let them know and try to strike a deal; it's a shame to say but it's true. way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qix_maniac Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 WOW! eBay Auction -- Item Number: 280776624601 Listed for $594 in Germany. I gotta admit that is a rare find. I have one and it was very hard for me to get it. no kidding! price is beyond belief! I have 5 pastfinders myself (one boxed) and didn't pay that for all of them combined!!! not even half! ..but not as good as $5.50 each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Boy, pastfinder for $5 bucks! It looks like the 5200 version, or is that just me? How did we miss that auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) Ok I just found out seller shipped it to me today. Yay. Yes I got real lucky! I think it was the fact he did not add "800' or "XL/XE" to it that it slipped by. I periodically do a search for "pastfinder" as I am looking for the Commodore 64 version and this one popped up! I just missed one a few days ago for the 64 for a measly $25!! UGH. Can't win them all I am told! Edited December 10, 2011 by tjlazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 My cart has the copyright info on the label, and on the back of the case the Activision logo. Someone should help update Atarimania. And the rarity value should go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qix_maniac Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 I believe rarity is correct since HES version is much harder to find then activision one. The Pastfinder FULS has in the shell case is much harder find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I'd say that the Activision version is rarer, I've seen more HES versions than Activision. I believe rarity is correct since HES version is much harder to find then activision one. So, which has the higher rarity? I always assumed it was HES, based on Atarimania's info and the fact that it wasn't released in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Is the HES one really rarer? I have a complete HES Pastfinder that I'd trade for a US one. Any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Is the HES one really rarer? I have a complete HES Pastfinder that I'd trade for a US one. Any takers? I would say no. I see them all the time on fleaBay. Especially in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fres Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I would have no interest in the HES one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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