firebird400 #1 Posted November 7, 2010 Can the games made for the Atari 520ST and 1040ST machines(computers) be run and played on a Amiga 500? Looks like the same floppy drive to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svenski #2 Posted November 7, 2010 Can the games made for the Atari 520ST and 1040ST machines(computers) be run and played on a Amiga 500? Looks like the same floppy drive to me. Nope, completely different computers ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Laird #3 Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) I am trying to work out if this is a joke or not . . . . There are loads of machines that use the same style disks as an Amiga. The Sam Coupe, ST, Falcon, Archimedes, BBC Master, Apple Mac and more modern PC's among many others I am sure. Edited November 7, 2010 by The_Laird Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firebird400 #4 Posted November 7, 2010 Can the games made for the Atari 520ST and 1040ST machines(computers) be run and played on a Amiga 500? Looks like the same floppy drive to me. Nope, completely different computers ! Can the games made for the Atari 520ST and 1040ST machines(computers) be run on any other Atari System? Or are these ST games only compatible with the 520ST, 1040ST, Falcon, and TT computer systems? Looking to purchase a system this week, maybe today, I'd like a complete working 1040ST, mouse, cables, manual and all. Link me on here if you see one reasonable. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Laird #5 Posted November 7, 2010 They will only work on ST computers. For the best compatibility with commercial games then you want a 1040 STfm but if you want to play some of the enhanced games and demos too then you will need a 1040 STe Some games will work on the TT and the Falcon and there are some more thaat have been patched to work on these computers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firebird400 #6 Posted November 7, 2010 They will only work on ST computers. For the best compatibility with commercial games then you want a 1040 STfm but if you want to play some of the enhanced games and demos too then you will need a 1040 STe Some games will work on the TT and the Falcon and there are some more thaat have been patched to work on these computers. Thanks for the info on the ST games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+save2600 #7 Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) To the OP, any reason why you're wanting to pick an ST over an Amiga to play games? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense... especially considering the differences in libraries and availability. Edited November 7, 2010 by save2600 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+wood_jl #8 Posted November 7, 2010 To the OP, any reason why you're wanting to pick an ST over an Amiga to play games? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense... especially considering the differences in libraries and availability. A more direct approach would be to say something along the lines of: "I am a Commodore fanboy, and since I chose Commodore computers, everyone else should too." There'd be nothing wrong with such a statement, and no extraneous information to further obfuscate the original poster. To the original poster: You can get a 1040STf or 1040STfm for dirt cheap. In my opinion, it's the best value and a fun machine. The "f" will require an Atari monitor, the "fm" can be used with any TV with composite input, but the Atari monitors look very good and can be had cheaply, so it may not matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+save2600 #9 Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) A more direct approach would be to say something along the lines of: "I am a Commodore fanboy, and since I chose Commodore computers, everyone else should too." There'd be nothing wrong with such a statement, and no extraneous information to further obfuscate the original poster. Wrong poopy pants. Being a "fanboy" as you call it, has nothing to do with the legitimate question at hand. Guy was asking about gaming on both platforms or really, the way the subject is written, sounds like he may already have an A500. Not sure what ST game he'd want to play that wasn't available on the Amiga, besides a handful maybe. But c'mon... if the guy has neither computer yet: Amiga hardware and software is at least 4x more abundant than the ST's (having just done a quick search on a popular auction website). Not only that, if he wanted to play many games of the early to mid 90's, Amiga has a lot more to choose from. If the OP wants to limit his classic computer gaming experience, then yes - by all means, the ST is clearly the superior computer. lol No reason he can't have both though and let him make up his own mind Edited November 7, 2010 by save2600 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Laird #10 Posted November 7, 2010 Maybe he is like me and wants to own all the Atari machines Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldAtarian #11 Posted November 7, 2010 Poopy pants? Have we regressed back to kindergarten? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+save2600 #12 Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Poopy pants? Have we regressed back to kindergarten? Nope, just back to 1995 - Ace Ventura. The term "fanboy" would be the kindergarten reference Edited November 7, 2010 by save2600 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carmel_andrews #13 Posted November 7, 2010 Can the games made for the Atari 520ST and 1040ST machines(computers) be run and played on a Amiga 500? Looks like the same floppy drive to me. Unless you can get an st emulator that mimics an st/e etc at 100 percent (you need something like an a1200 and a very speedy proccy upgrade (say an 50 mhz 060) and you might be in luck (but you'd need a way of converting your st disks to emulator format or go visit one of the numerous emulation sites and get st games there) Otherwise, i think the answer is a no, like someone said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atarian63 #14 Posted November 8, 2010 To the OP, any reason why you're wanting to pick an ST over an Amiga to play games? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense... especially considering the differences in libraries and availability. Stop fighting, buy them both. I chose an ST and it is still my preferred choice. Glad to see another ST person! There are tons of games out there! Enjoy! My choice was based back in the day on the ST being the most flexable all around computer for the price (and being a rabid fanboy and Atari dealer) by todays standards not so much but there are a ton of fun games out there to enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atarian63 #15 Posted November 8, 2010 Maybe he is like me and wants to own all the Atari machines Ditto! heck you could even consider the Amiga and Atari machine in a loose sense. Cant stand that os though. I wish you could have a small amiga (a600 sized,non aga) that has a loader like the the SD reader I have for my A8. Just Startup,goes to a menu, select next game, and so one. I have been the full run of amiga's over the years(dealer) from start to the game amiga (name escapes me due to dilaudid pain meds..),either aga gets in the way or the silly o/s. I am sure there are sd devices out for it like the ST but it has to work from a menu system and simple reboot, joystick control,no kb or mouse required. just a dedicated games box for classic games. Been thinking of trying to do this on the st since you can just hit reset in most cases. probably needs a way to make a hard reset as not all games accept the soft reset. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kool kitty89 #16 Posted November 8, 2010 I am trying to work out if this is a joke or not . . . . There are loads of machines that use the same style disks as an Amiga. The Sam Coupe, ST, Falcon, Archimedes, BBC Master, Apple Mac and more modern PC's among many others I am sure. You mean older PCs by today's standards, 3.5" floppy drives stopped being common on new machines 4-5 years ago. And they were already there in the mid 80s. (and the PS/2 line featured 3.5" exclusively as standard with 5.25" only as an accessory) Granted you had a lot of mixed 5.25/3.5" support into the early 90s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+remowilliams #17 Posted November 8, 2010 Stop fighting, buy them both. Now that's the way to go! Unless you can get an st emulator that mimics an st/e etc at 100 percent (you need something like an a1200 and a very speedy proccy upgrade (say an 50 mhz 060) and you might be in luck (but you'd need a way of converting your st disks to emulator format or go visit one of the numerous emulation sites and get st games there) If you can't stop completely and constantly talking out your ass all the time, could you at least pull up your trousers so the sound is muffled... 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rybags #18 Posted November 8, 2010 PMSL. I think there is an ST emu for the Amiga but it only does selected Desktop type apps. You'd probably emulate an ST easily enough with one of the newer PPC Amigas, but forget it with any 68K based system, exept maybe a really quick '060 and even then it'd be a bit of a fudge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carmel_andrews #19 Posted November 8, 2010 Stop fighting, buy them both. Now that's the way to go! Unless you can get an st emulator that mimics an st/e etc at 100 percent (you need something like an a1200 and a very speedy proccy upgrade (say an 50 mhz 060) and you might be in luck (but you'd need a way of converting your st disks to emulator format or go visit one of the numerous emulation sites and get st games there) If you can't stop completely and constantly talking out your ass all the time, could you at least pull up your trousers so the sound is muffled... well unless you have a better suggestion i suggest you stop talking out of that thing you sit on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+wood_jl #20 Posted November 8, 2010 Poopy pants? Have we regressed back to kindergarten? Nope, just back to 1995 - Ace Ventura. The term "fanboy" would be the kindergarten reference I love that movie. Not so much the 2nd one. I'd have to say I agree with you on much of what you post on this site, the exception being your position on Atari computers. However, I don't feel the same way about Commodores as you do Ataris. The fact that the HxC SD-card floppy emulator now offers write capability on Amiga....hmmmm. Makes me think Amiga 500 and one of these devices **might** one day be worth trying out. I had thought a WHDLoad-1200 would be the ultimate setup but my experience has been that that's too expensive, complicated, and unreliable to get it right. Simple/cheap A500 with HxC is sort of in my head. Currently not enough time to even play with my ST, which I'll always prefer. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oky2000 #21 Posted November 8, 2010 He might want to play Time Bandit, Gauntlet 1, Oids, Road Runner etc Amiga was late to the party, and quite a few early commercial games were only converted to the ST in addition to the 8 bit computers like C64/Amstrad/Spectrum to be fair. I always wondered how much work it would be to disassemble Gauntlet 1 for the ST and re-code it for an Amiga for a superior game than Gauntlet 2 on Amiga (which is crap in the extreme...2 colour floor tiles...what where they thinking!!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frogstar_robot #22 Posted November 9, 2010 I always wondered how much work it would be to disassemble Gauntlet 1 for the ST and re-code it for an Amiga for a superior game than Gauntlet 2 on Amiga (which is crap in the extreme...2 colour floor tiles...what where they thinking!!) If you had the source, a good developer who understands both platforms could probably accomplish that fairly quickly. As it is, maybe just making a Gauntlet 1 for the Amiga from the ground up would be a better choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredder11 #23 Posted November 9, 2010 It's not about which is technically the best or whatever, it is about which computer you feel the most affinity/love towards; with me it happens to be the Atari range but I still acknowledge that the Amiga is techically superior. This is kind of stupid because you do not choose your wife based upon the size of her **** or **** or *****! At least I hope not as you should be going for the girl you have the most love for! Okay that is enough of my analogies for one day; go away and enjoy your computers and girlfriends/wife etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oky2000 #24 Posted November 10, 2010 It's not about which is technically the best or whatever, it is about which computer you feel the most affinity/love towards; with me it happens to be the Atari range but I still acknowledge that the Amiga is techically superior. This is kind of stupid because you do not choose your wife based upon the size of her **** or **** or *****! At least I hope not as you should be going for the girl you have the most love for! Okay that is enough of my analogies for one day; go away and enjoy your computers and girlfriends/wife etc. I only like slim girls Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #25 Posted November 10, 2010 It's not about which is technically the best or whatever, it is about which computer you feel the most affinity/love towards; with me it happens to be the Atari range but I still acknowledge that the Amiga is techically superior. This is kind of stupid because you do not choose your wife based upon the size of her **** or **** or *****! At least I hope not as you should be going for the girl you have the most love for! Okay that is enough of my analogies for one day; go away and enjoy your computers and girlfriends/wife etc. I only like slim girls LOL - someone else besides me who will admit it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites