qix_maniac #1 Posted January 4, 2011 Quick Question: I just acquired a US GOLD Super Zaxxon disk from UK and don't seem to work on my 1050 drive...seems to boot up but hangs midway...any suggestions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+orpheuswaking #2 Posted January 4, 2011 I suggest your disk is corrupt! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qix_maniac #3 Posted January 4, 2011 I suggest your disk is corrupt! that's it? no magic? no tricks? no prayer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+orpheuswaking #4 Posted January 4, 2011 Mine boots okay on multiple 1050's (tried with a 600xl and a 800xl)... Boots with or without Option held down... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaxX28 #5 Posted January 4, 2011 Maybe, you forgot to press OPTION when you switch on the computer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+orpheuswaking #6 Posted January 4, 2011 Maybe, you forgot to press OPTION when you switch on the computer... >Boots with or without Option held down... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormtrooper of Death #7 Posted January 4, 2011 Maybe, you forgot to press OPTION when you switch on the computer... >Boots with or without Option held down... Once, a friend of me came to bring me a packet with 4 disks, send from the USA, he didnt know the disks are not allowed to be fold. The disks did not boot. so, i did this trick, remove the up cover of your beloved 1050 insert disk, have a lot of patience, and use a sector editor to read the dead sector, i have knowledge of Atari assembly, and re-programmed the dead links, also have a 2nd 1050 ready to save the sector a lot of hard work, but i got those 4 disks back to life, yeah, its like working in the coalmine to resurect dead disks,or maybe become a budhist and pray for 50 years or so. anyhow, mucho succes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qix_maniac #8 Posted January 4, 2011 Maybe, you forgot to press OPTION when you switch on the computer... >Boots with or without Option held down... Once, a friend of me came to bring me a packet with 4 disks, send from the USA, he didnt know the disks are not allowed to be fold. The disks did not boot. so, i did this trick, remove the up cover of your beloved 1050 insert disk, have a lot of patience, and use a sector editor to read the dead sector, i have knowledge of Atari assembly, and re-programmed the dead links, also have a 2nd 1050 ready to save the sector a lot of hard work, but i got those 4 disks back to life, yeah, its like working in the coalmine to resurect dead disks,or maybe become a budhist and pray for 50 years or so. anyhow, mucho succes. Wow! You have much free time...interesting :-) I think I'm just going to use my zaxxon floppy as a coaster! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaxX28 #9 Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) Maybe, you forgot to press OPTION when you switch on the computer... >Boots with or without Option held down... Yes, but Super Zaxxon is not written in BASIC language... so, you must press the OPTION key when you switch on the computer to disable the BASIC on Atari XL/XE or remove BASIC cartridge on Atari 400/800! Edited January 5, 2011 by StaxX28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan #10 Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) Yes, but Super Zaxxon is not written in BASIC language... so, you must press the OPTION key when you switch on the computer to disable the BASIC on Atari XL/XE or remove BASIC cartridge on Atari 400/800! Holding the Option button down keeps the BASIC ROM from being enabled by the OS, but either way the system will still attempt to boot ML code from the disk at power-up so the game has a chance to turn BASIC off if it detects it. I don't know if that's what it does, though. Edited January 5, 2011 by Bryan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rybags #11 Posted January 5, 2011 There's always the chance it's "region locked" and will refuse to load on an NTSC machine. Although I imagine it'd be a well known fact by now if that was the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qix_maniac #12 Posted January 5, 2011 There's always the chance it's "region locked" and will refuse to load on an NTSC machine. Although I imagine it'd be a well known fact by now if that was the case. Yes, I was thinking maybe PAL only. My machine is NTSC so I'm not 100% sure. It appears to load and 10 seconds in it hangs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oky2000 #13 Posted January 5, 2011 Solution = buy my mint copy of Super Zaxxon on tape to check if it is a PAL/NTSC issue as I am from the UK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+orpheuswaking #14 Posted January 5, 2011 I have both NTSC & PAL machines, My Disk loads on both with Option held down or not... I honestly think you have a corrupt disk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rybags #15 Posted January 5, 2011 Solution there would be to do a scan of the known good disk. Then get a sector dump, copy across the non-errored sectors so not to disturb the copy protection. In the even the bad disk is beyond writable, you could do a partial format, but that involves counting track movement by ear and popping the drive open at the right time, and is only really feasible if the error portion of the disk is near the last track used. But... fairly sure the 810 drive formats backwards, so in theory you could format all but one track of a disk using both drives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ijor #16 Posted January 5, 2011 I have both NTSC & PAL machines, My Disk loads on both with Option held down or not... I honestly think you have a corrupt disk. Sorry if the question is a bit silly and obvious. But can you please confirm that your disk is also the US Gold european relase (and not the US Sega version). Btw, in some extreme cases an euro release would work only on "some", but not all, drives when using an NTSC computer. The protection timing was sometimes too marginal in NTSC, depending then on the exact timing of the drive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mclaneinc #17 Posted January 5, 2011 If all else fails copy a cracked image to that disk, I know it's not the same but at least the disk will have a working Zaxxon on it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qix_maniac #18 Posted January 5, 2011 I have both NTSC & PAL machines, My Disk loads on both with Option held down or not... I honestly think you have a corrupt disk. Sorry if the question is a bit silly and obvious. But can you please confirm that your disk is also the US Gold european relase (and not the US Sega version). Btw, in some extreme cases an euro release would work only on "some", but not all, drives when using an NTSC computer. The protection timing was sometimes too marginal in NTSC, depending then on the exact timing of the drive. It's US Gold back says manufactured in UK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qix_maniac #19 Posted January 5, 2011 I have both NTSC & PAL machines, My Disk loads on both with Option held down or not... I honestly think you have a corrupt disk. Sorry if the question is a bit silly and obvious. But can you please confirm that your disk is also the US Gold european relase (and not the US Sega version). Btw, in some extreme cases an euro release would work only on "some", but not all, drives when using an NTSC computer. The protection timing was sometimes too marginal in NTSC, depending then on the exact timing of the drive. I tried to load on my happy 810, regular 1050, and indus GT ...perhaps the disk is just hosed up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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