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20 hours ago, leonk said:

Small update to AVGcart cost - it seems to have gone up to 50EUR from 40EUR

Confirmed and updated, thanks!

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On 4/25/2019 at 10:10 AM, _The Doctor__ said:

best to wait on your cable, the ingot power supply is the only system killer supply for the Atari, and don't use a commodore supply on an Atari ever.

 

Don't use a Commodore power supply on a Commodore either!  :)

 

I do think power supplies would be a good thing to add to this mini-guide. The USB power cable adapters are pretty cool.

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On 11/18/2011 at 9:58 PM, BillC said:

For well built and sturdy you will not be able to beat the 800, unfortunately it will not run later software that requires a 64K or larger XL/XE system. The ability to have 4 players for Mule is in its favor though. There have been discussions about a replacement OS upgrade board which allows the ability to select between 800 mode and XE mode with up to 576K, the design of which is complete and some prototypes built, but which has not been produced. There are also limited upgrades available for this machine.

 

My next choice would be the 1200XL, followed closely by the 800XL. The quality of the XL circuit boards is superior to those of the XE line, and the XLs can be upgraded with extra memory which was their main disadvantage in comparison to the 130XE.

 

The quality of the XE lines circuit board is a major disadvantage when installing mods/upgrades, it is much easier to damage when doing so.

 

Bill

I have a random idea - why has nobody built a remake of the 130XE or 800XL using modern parts like a RasperberryPi or other core to emulate it exactly without being an actual emulator but real hardware - same joystick plugs, same connectors etc.  Seems like it could be a straightforward and simple build plus since all parts are modern creations replacement parts become much cheaper and simpler to find.  Maybe use a simple USB keyboard.  The idea came to me when I added a usb keyboard/mouse to my classic Xbox with an 8bit emulator and was like whoa this is just like a real 8bit almost and the controllers are a lot cheaper to replace than classic joysticks.  OK so I shared.

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Well there's the EclaireXL 

 

Or if you'd rather have all original chips in a modern reincarnation theres the 1088XEL/XLD machines

 

 

 

 

There are other FPGA based devices like MiST and MiSTER that have Atari 8-bit cores available but they dont have Atari specific ports. 

 

 

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On 10/24/2019 at 2:52 PM, Ray Gillman said:

I have a random idea - why has nobody built a remake of the 130XE or 800XL using modern parts like a RasperberryPi or other core to emulate it exactly without being an actual emulator but real hardware - same joystick plugs, same connectors etc.  Seems like it could be a straightforward and simple build plus since all parts are modern creations replacement parts become much cheaper and simpler to find.  Maybe use a simple USB keyboard.  The idea came to me when I added a usb keyboard/mouse to my classic Xbox with an 8bit emulator and was like whoa this is just like a real 8bit almost and the controllers are a lot cheaper to replace than classic joysticks.  OK so I shared.

Can you read carts with the GPIO pins?

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On 10/24/2019 at 8:52 PM, Ray Gillman said:

I have a random idea - why has nobody built a remake of the 130XE or 800XL using modern parts like a RasperberryPi or other core to emulate it exactly without being an actual emulator but real hardware - same joystick plugs, same connectors etc.  Seems like it could be a straightforward and simple build plus since all parts are modern creations replacement parts become much cheaper and simpler to find.  Maybe use a simple USB keyboard.  The idea came to me when I added a usb keyboard/mouse to my classic Xbox with an 8bit emulator and was like whoa this is just like a real 8bit almost and the controllers are a lot cheaper to replace than classic joysticks.  OK so I shared.

Google for RetroPi

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Hello everyone,

 

I've got a UNO Cart for my 800XL and it works great.

 

Next, I'd like to get a multicart for my XEGS in the living room, so here's my question:
Is there any multicart that lets you select and run a game from the menu using the joystick?

 

I do have the XEGS keyboard, but I'd prefer to use it just as a game console (i.e. no keyboard attached) if possible.  Any options out there?

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11 hours ago, newtmonkey said:

Hello everyone,

 

I've got a UNO Cart for my 800XL and it works great.

 

Next, I'd like to get a multicart for my XEGS in the living room, so here's my question:
Is there any multicart that lets you select and run a game from the menu using the joystick?

 

I do have the XEGS keyboard, but I'd prefer to use it just as a game console (i.e. no keyboard attached) if possible.  Any options out there?

Probably more than one. One that comes to mind is AVG cart

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On 11/13/2019 at 10:43 PM, newtmonkey said:

Is there any multicart that lets you select and run a game from the menu using the joystick?

The Ultimate Cart has a joystick driven menu. 

 

On the disk emulator side, a SIO2SD has an onscreen joystick driven menu and a SDrive-MAX has a built in touchscreen. 

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Compared to other old computers, I don't think accessories are expensive.

With a $6-15 SIO2PC-USB you can connect the Atari to the PC and load 99% of the software.

Good stand-alone solutions cost circa $50.

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Im new to this board and have my original still amazingly working 800XL and 1050 Drive just out of their boxes and set back up with all my original floppies from over 35 years ago.  (replaced my power supplies though to ensure proper voltages!) I see there is a tremendous wealth of Atari 8-bit software online available these days as disk images on various sites.  Id like to download some of it to original floppy disks to keep the experience authentic.  What is the easiest and cheapest way to get the downloaded disk images on my PC over to my 1050 so I can write some new disks.  Ive seen the SIO2PC hardware and software which looks like it is about $100.  Is this my best option.  Or should I hack a SIO cable and splice it to a USB cable and download a file transfer app. Thanks for any advice!

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SIO2PC-USB (do it yourself or by Lotharek) not only is very cheap but it's the best solution, as long as you have a PC near your Atari.

You only have to make disks so it's OK for you even if you don't want to keep a PC nearby.

Eventually you can buy other solutions (for example a multicart if you want instant or very fast loadings).

 

 

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Thank you. Is there a link to this cable or hardware you recommend? Which software would you recommend using with it! Thx. 

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Im new to this board and have my original still amazingly working 800XL and 1050 Drive just out of their boxes and set back up with all my original floppies from over 35 years ago.  (replaced my power supplies though to ensure proper voltages!) I see there is a tremendous wealth of Atari 8-bit software online available these days as disk images on various sites.  Id like to download some of it to original floppy disks to keep the experience authentic.  What is the easiest and cheapest way to get the downloaded disk images on my PC over to my 1050 so I can write some new disks.  Ive seen the SIO2PC hardware and software which looks like it is about $100.  Is this my best option.  Or should I hack a SIO cable and splice it to a USB cable and download a file transfer app. Thanks for any advice!

 

100$ for a sio2pc? I bought mine from Lotharek for way less money...

Sio2pc is your best bet for transferring images to real floppies. If you are located in the USA then it could possibly be expensive to buy one from Europe, so a good alternative would be to buy an SDrive max. Else, your last option (and quite cheap) is indeed to hack an sio cable and a usb-to-serial adapter to make your own sio2pc...

 

RespeQT is the software to go...

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I agree. SIO2PC is the cheapest and most efficient way to get your setup running, a good start. Later, probably, you will be tempted to get a multicart (like unocart, or avgcart).

If you want to go very cheap and you are in USA you can get something like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FT232RL-FTDI-USB-3-3V-5-5V-to-TTL-Serial-Adapter-Module-for-Arduino-Mini-Ports/232428575643?hash=item361dd29b9b:g:6PcAAOSwL5pZfM4~

or this (no need to supply your own USB cable):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PL2303TA-USB-to-TTL-RS232-COM-UART-Module-Serial-Cable-Adapter-for-Arduino/382768151970?hash=item591ec27da2:g:sfIAAOSwOShcWLXN

And if you don't want to waste an Atari SIO connector, you just need to connect 3 signals: TX->DIn(pin3),  RX->Dout(pin5) and GND->GND(pin4)  (do not connect +5Vdc) and download and run RespeQt.

That is the cheapest you can go if you are inclined to build and play with cables and circuits.

If you are in Europe, Lotharek (https://lotharek.pl/) sells a nice sio2pc via USB in his website.

Regards,

 

 

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I started out with the SIO2PC over a decade ago. I purchased the APE software from Steven Tucker. Still to this day I consider it to be one of the best software purchases I have ever made. It still gets updates and Steven actually emailed me a personal link to my latest registered version only a few weeks ago.

 

I also have an SDrive Max, but to be honest I prefer the APE software and SIO2PC. It is just faster and more convenient to load various software on the fly. This is only possible of course if you have a PC near your Atari 8-bit as I do. If not, the SDrive Max is a great solution as well.

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Both have their uses, but Atarimax and steves ingenuity have made the only device thus far that let's me emulate the XF and write directly to the XF at high speed, same goes with albeit as an experiment in regard to the indus drive.... Everyone knows how tough I am on the prices in the retro realm... I bought more than one and paid to register APE as well. I think it's one of the best purchases ever made. Steve has lent his expertise to all things Atari without fail, supporting not only his products but helping with just about any ancillary thing as well. I probably own the man more than either of us could calculate in terms of time and technical chats over the years.

I love respeqt... but I go back to APE all the time... just about anyone can use it, and if need be you can get into so many settings and adjust so much, it becomes indispensable for quick tinkering and testing. I say you NEED both. But that's just my opinion :)

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