Boxed MINIX for sale

[Arkhan]

I have an original boxed copy of MINIX 1.5 for sale. It is mint in box with all of the disks, books, and such.

 

It is on 5.25" floppies.

 

I was hoping to get 100$ for it

 

If anyones seriously interested, shoot me a PM.

 

I forgot I had it, and am looking to get rid of things on my shelves that I don't actually use.

[Keatah]

I have an original boxed copy of MINIX 1.5 for sale. It is mint in box with all of the disks, books, and such.

 

It is on 5.25" floppies.

 

I was hoping to get 100$ for it

 

If anyones seriously interested, shoot me a PM.

 

I forgot I had it, and am looking to get rid of things on my shelves that I don't actually use.

 

Err. what is it?

Surely not this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix -- ??

[madmax2069]

I have an original boxed copy of MINIX 1.5 for sale. It is mint in box with all of the disks, books, and such.

 

It is on 5.25" floppies.

 

I was hoping to get 100$ for it

 

If anyones seriously interested, shoot me a PM.

 

I forgot I had it, and am looking to get rid of things on my shelves that I don't actually use.

 

Err. what is it?

Surely not this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix -- ??

 

i think it is

[+bennybingo]

I have an original boxed copy of MINIX 1.5 for sale. It is mint in box with all of the disks, books, and such.

 

It is on 5.25" floppies.

 

I was hoping to get 100$ for it

 

If anyones seriously interested, shoot me a PM.

 

I forgot I had it, and am looking to get rid of things on my shelves that I don't actually use.

 

Err. what is it?

Surely not this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix -- ??

 

i think it is

 

 

Just saw this one on ebay with a BIN price of $20 bucks: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 170610810463

 

Not sure you are gonna get $100 for it...sorry for the bad news. Might just want to hold on to it and eBay it when there aren't any others listed. You may find someone then who wants it and is willing to pay more. Could just be a low priced fluke on eBay. I personally don't really know what the going rate is for such a program. Best of luck!

[Keatah]

Considering that both it and the documentation is freely available, I'd say it isn't worth any more than the materials from which it is made up from. The key thing to ask is what is memorable or significant about this? This was mass produced, right?

[Arkhan]

Yeah, thats it! 1.5. Mines for PC, not Atari though.

 

Man, thats the FIRST time Ive seen one available. I checked many times on ebay and amazon. So I too have no idea what its worth. I figured 100$ for a vintage OS/Documents/etc, seemed reasonable, especially Minix.

 

But if that one goes for 20$, I guess I will sell mine for 20$!

 

The thing takes up WAY too much space on my shelf! Things like 6"+ thick, and does nothing for me, lol

[potatohead]

"I'm developing a [new] operating system. I don't think it's gonna be big [...], or anything..." -- Linus Torvalds. [i don't have it exactly right, but that's the gist of how Linux started.]

 

Amazing how far it's gone. If you are into a bit of computing history, look up the classic USENET discussion between Linus and that MINIX guy, Tannenbaum, I think. There is some great perspective there.

[Arkhan]

that MINIX guy, Tannenbaum, I think. There is some great perspective there.

 

"That Minix guy", Tanenbaum, is a legend!

 

He's written countless books on computer science concepts. They are all very great books, with a lot of great information. His MINIX system is what sparked Linux occuring in the first place.

[potatohead]

Yeah, but he kind of got his ass handed to him on the overall viability and potency of micro-kernels -vs- monolithic ones

 

To be fair, the dynamics of open source software were just emerging at that time.

 

Great guy, and yes he's written lots of good stuff. Didn't mean to imply otherwise.

[Arkhan]

well, to be fair, hes kept his work strictly educational. My university uses MINIX and UNIX side by side in the OS classes to teach things, and we use Tanenbaums books.

 

I dont see Torvalds writing any good educational material.

 

[potatohead]

You are kidding right?

 

That is what the body of open source software and discussion IS.

[Arkhan]

You are kidding right?

 

That is what the body of open source software and discussion IS.

 

 

?? uhh?

 

Yeah, current open source is Linux-centric. Discussion occurs. Whoopee. Sometimes, open source software is a bad thing anyways. I don't know about you but I am glad some things are run by software that comes out of a corporation that has things in place that won't result in a project being scrapped/abandoned "just because".

 

Anyway, its discussion. Its not always fit for classroom because its a bunch of people talking and voicing opinions on the internet. Some of the talkers are neckbeard, mouth breathing buffoons that shouldn't have access to the outside world. Or ignorant spazzes that don't even understand what it is they're talking about. It's not always educational.

 

Hence me saying Linus doesn't write educational material. Tanenbaum writes books fit for a classroom. Hes a professor after all. Linus didn't set out to teach anyone anything. He accidentally'd the whole thing.

[potatohead]

It's just a different approach to the problem.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with either one. They both have their merits. One could easily argue the classrooms are for those that need it, just by way of one example. That's not meant as anything personal, mind you. It just is.

 

As for corporate software, sure, if it adds real value. That's the case for many higher end applications. For most basic computing tasks, it simply isn't necessary. It is however available for people to choose, and that's a perfectly fine thing.

 

You won't catch me buying in to any of that I don't have to, just because I prefer to use the common body of open software where I can. Life is easy that way, cheap, and robust in that I have few worries about whether or not I get to run it on what I want to run it on, when, etc...

 

But, this isn't really a discussion on OSS vs Proprietary software. What you would like to do makes sense for you, right? Great. Nice to have that settled.

 

Back to the merits of OSS. When you've got the source code back to the origins of the software, you have very solid and inclusive documentation for that software, and when this is coupled with the peer reviewed discussion, it's a very potent learning tool, given somebody has the skills to learn that way. And it is peer reviewed on the larger projects, with that process evolving a lot of seriously great code and techniques.

 

That's kind of it for me on this one. Really, I thought the contrast between the two was both funny and educational. Like a clash between the theoretical and the applied, like you often find in math. Engineers vs professors, in other words. Change the names and the subject matter, but it's the same discussion. I'm in the applied / engineering camp, and always have been, always will be.

 

Starting down ideological clashes holds no real interest for me otherwise. Use the software you use. I'll post up the reasons for mine, you post up the reason for yours, no harm, no foul.

 

In any case, part of the worth of that set is the history behind it, which is why I mentioned the discussion in the first place. I've a feeling that set wouldn't be anywhere near as interesting, had it not taken place.

Edited March 6, 2011 by potatohead

[Arkhan]

The problem with open source though, if its used purely for learning, is that it leaves alot of room for idiots and opens up the possibility for poor teaching. Its great on paper, and great when it actually works as planned, but....

 

What if a bunch of people are learning from very jacked up open source things? I can think of a few open source projects that if they were mimicked as a learning tool, would produce more retarded programmers, aside from the ones that wrote the crap in the first place.

 

It'd be like if someone showed you how to put up walls to a house without telling you how to lay a foundation... and then you build your own house and the bastard falls over and kills you when youre sleeping.

 

If you learn computer science/programming strictly by flailing around in open source land, you are destined to be a copy-pasta buffoon. Usually. You miss out on the core concepts of what you are doing.

 

I can think of a few people at my school, and at a friends school, who had never heard of Tanenbaum, Knuth (seriously, wtf. Automatic failure.), or aho/ulman.

 

Coincidentally (or not? ), they were some of the most moronic programmers I had ever seen.

 

One kid really had that open source tickle in his pants. He had been using Linux for all of 3 months and was proclaiming guru status. Talking about how .net on Linux is better than .net in a windows environment, and how all programming languages turn into machine code (they don't. if they did, you'd have no portable languages like Java, or declarative stuff like Prolog). Lots of other stupid things flew out of his mouth. My favorite was "Assemblers are like programmers for compilers." and "if you can't get something to work theres already someone else who did it, just google it and steal theirs"

 

I got into it with him in the schools computer club room and corrected every dumb statement that came out of his mouth. They were all dumb statements, so this took awhile. It got to the point where the rest of the club who had thought this kid was extremely legit, was laughing at him and asking me a lot of questions about programming/computer stuff.

 

also he was pissed he had to start from intro level classes at college last semester. He said "This is stupid, I already know all of this, and now I am relearning it". his buddies from highschool were all "yeah man, that really sucks you're like a pro at this stuff already".

 

Yeah. He failed intro to programming. The hardest thing they did was write a hangman game in C#. He asked what an array of strings was. Pro my ass.

 

I laughed at him. So did his friends that thought he was a pro.

 

Copy pastaing from the googlebox9000 to get things done produces lots of people like that.

 

 

So, that is my problem with using open sauce strictly for educating people. It doesn't always mold you properly.

[potatohead]

So, open source learning is a problem, because you met some idiot?

 

I'm sure not threatened by the fact that there are classes and people producing texts. On the other hand, it sure seems to me like you've got some open source chip on your shoulder, but maybe that's just me. Wouldn't have anything to do with those great texts you are reading would it?

 

This works like abortion does. If you don't believe it makes sense, then don't have one.

 

Like I said above, just different solutions to the same problem. Each has it's merits, and each has it's downsides.

 

One big downside of the formal approach is cost. Takes dollars, or some entitlement earned to go through formal school. On the other hand, somebody with good critical thinking skills can progress rather nicely in OSS land for a song.

 

Choice is a good thing, open is a good thing. Beyond that, it's where you are at in life, and what your personal choices are. Cheers!

Edited March 6, 2011 by potatohead

[Crazy Climber]

Well, I just wanted to know what the hell a MINUX was, looks like I got a little more than I bargained for

[potatohead]

Well, who knows?

 

Maybe we can get into a flat out brawl, and that copy value goes up! He could put something nasty about that "potatohead open source guy on it", and... My avatar is to the left. Have fun!

 

I'm all for it! Let's add some real value, shall we? Beat up on me proper! Let's get that bad boy to $40

Edited March 6, 2011 by potatohead

[Arkhan]

Oh no no, don't get me wrong, I like open source a lot.

 

I think the two are required and go hand in hand. You can't have one without the other. My big problem is people who strictly learn via open source and never crack a book. most (all) of them I have met and dealt with are complete doofs.

 

You can usually tell who they are after working with them on a project or two, or by talking to them for extended periods....they're always missing key concepts that are like chapter 1 of any book on the subject.

[potatohead]

Yeah, that's fair. Too fair actually. You might be losing out on $20 more, heh... There is still time to change your mind and tee-up!

 

Seriously, good points on both sides. The more people can get access to the better, in my book.

Edited March 6, 2011 by potatohead

[Arkhan]

Id sell it for 20 if someone actually wanted it. WTF am I doing with it side from propping up a few action figures, haha