+Stephen Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Wow does that look great! Can't wait to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 ok now i will go sit by the mail box and wait... (last time this happened, the kids had to bring my meals out to me... and mrs wasnt happy...) I hope the weather is good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 ok now i will go sit by the mail box and wait... (last time this happened, the kids had to bring my meals out to me... and mrs wasnt happy...) I hope the weather is good! priorities... sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 O.O well, hellllooo nurse!!! (yes if you were thinking of wakko, you got the ref ;') sloopy. I WANNA DIP MY BAAAALLLLLSSSS IN IT!!!! (now get THAT reference ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) From what I know, simius has already started sending the hardware. I have to tell you in advance, that the firmware he has programmed into the interface's flash ROMs is an alpha version which is not fully functional, i.e. not everything, that is selectable in the menu, really works. There is no code to handle slave disk, and the "US SIO" you will be able to see on the configuration display, does not work. Also, there is no documentation, I am very sorry for that. If something is unclear or not self-evident, simply ask here. The key information is that holding START during reset (either cold or warm) brings the configuration menu to the screen. The settings are saved in the RTC's memory. To partition the disk, please use IDEa's FDISK for now (available on my website, on IDE utilities image). If someone has a disk already partitioned for IDEa, there is one warning: due to differences in sector mapping between IDEa and IDE+, only partitions with 512-byte logical sectors (i.e. partitions for SpartaDOS X 4.4) are interchangeable between these two devices. The rest (128- and 256-byters) will get screwed. So better back up everything before. Also, due to the same reason (differences in sector mapping), any new partitions created on the IDE+ with the old (IDEa's) FDISK must be assigned twice as much logical sectors as it seems required. This only applies to partitions with 128 and 256 bytes per sector. For example: 1) to create a partition with 65535 sectors, 256 bytes each, you tell the FDISK to allocate 131070 logical sectors, 256 bytes each. But, 2) to create a partition with 65535 sectors, 512 bytes each, you tell the FDISK to allocate 65535 logocal sectors, 512 bytes each. The reason for all the delays is that I had almost no time for coding recently. Nevertheless, as the BIOS ROM is flashable, I'll distribute updates either here or on my websit, starting the next week. Edited May 26, 2011 by drac030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Providing the flashed BIOS will not require repartitioning of the disk, I see this as no problem. Take your time with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) This depends You'll certainly have to setup 256-byte partitions anew, as they, as I said, get screwed (the FS becomes unreadable and they appear twice as short as they are). However, I don't think there will be any future compatibility issues, because the new BIOS has its own, new partition table layout, and uses it internally. IDEa's partition table, when it is found on the disk, only gets (again: internally) converted to that new format, of course only to the extent to which it is possible (hence the unreadable 256-byters). Edited May 26, 2011 by drac030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Well, I'd be using 512bps from the outset anyway, but I'll keep back-ups. I hope the partition table layout and low-level disk access will get a full technical write-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Yes. The BIOS provides low-level API, i.e. a program can access the entire "raw" disk via the standard SIOV entry. I also thought that it may be worth adding code that detects SDX-MyIDE partition table and converts it to the new format, so that one could interchange media between these two devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) I also thought that it may be worth adding code that detects SDX-MyIDE partition table and converts it to the new format, so that one could interchange media between these two devices. Well, why not. I'd be happy to write something to convert things in the opposite direction (to the SDX MyIDE format), although I can't see there being any demand for it. I think the MyIDE driver I spent so much time on has built-in, instant obsolescence. Edited May 26, 2011 by flashjazzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 In the first post the Toshiba hard drive was mentioned, is this the only hard drive that works with the interface, or will IBM.....etc other Manufacted drives work also. Is there a Gigabyte limitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Toshiba disk is mentioned because that's the one I use. I also tested this with IBM DARA-21200, no problems. Also I know that trub has sucessfully used a CF card, but I don't know, which model. Generally, there never has been a 1 GB limit with KMK/JŻ IDE or IDEa. Those were only limited to 8 GB because of using CHS addressing, and because disks do not allow to address more than 8 GB using CHS (CHS, however, in theory can address 128 GB). The new BIOS uses 28-bit LBA addressing, so it is internally capable of addressing up to 128 GB. But, until new FDISK is programmed, the old one only allows to use 8 GB for partitions (the amount usually visible for CHS). Generally, there should be no problems using any disk produced from 1996 onwards. Older disks may only support CHS, which new BIOS does not know. In this case one will have to use legacy firmware (IDEa BIOS v.1.11 or so). If there is some demand, I'll include the CHS support in the new BIOS as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 There is a problem with using some more modern laptop drives with our older systems -- the (power-saving) spin-down interval is not controllable. This can normally be set in a Win (and presumably) Mac laptop environment. I wonder if it would be feasible to include a setting for this in the firmware or as a stand-alone utility? My older drives don't have any problem, but 5400 rpm drives do. Since the "default" configuration seems to be for a 44-pin notebook interface, I think this would be a useful option. I also wonder if 1.8" drives have this same issue? (I've never owned a 1.8" drive.) Really looking forward to getting this interface/adapter! -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I would like to use a SD card instead of a noisy power-hungry hard disk. Which IDE to SD adapter should I buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I would like to use a SD card instead of a noisy power-hungry hard disk. Which IDE to SD adapter should I buy? Are such things guaranteed to work, or even tested with this interface? Certainly don't buy the one I obtained for the MyIDE, which didn't work and stopped operating altogether after ten minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I would like to use a SD card instead of a noisy power-hungry hard disk. Which IDE to SD adapter should I buy? Are such things guaranteed to work, or even tested with this interface? Certainly don't buy the one I obtained for the MyIDE, which didn't work and stopped operating altogether after ten minutes. GoodByte XL used one for CF Cards with the MSC IDE, which works flawlessly. YellowMan from ABBUC is going to test an adpapter with the IDE Plus 2.0 today, I am waiting for this too, because I don´t know which adapter to buy. I´ll ask him for his recommendation if his tests are successful and post it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaxon Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) simply and cheap adapter and CF card https://picasaweb.google.com/zaxoniec/Kmk2#5595837106718836898 I use it from over 2 weeks without problems. Edited May 29, 2011 by zaxon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 GoodByte XL used one for CF Cards with the MSC IDE, which works flawlessly. YellowMan from ABBUC is going to test an adpapter with the IDE Plus 2.0 today, I am waiting for this too, because I don´t know which adapter to buy. I´ll ask him for his recommendation if his tests are successful and post it here. I would certainly hope to see a wide range of IDE to CF adapters working without issue. However, IDE to SD adapters seem to be a different kettle of fish. I look forward to hearing the test results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaxon Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 But i back to HDD, this voice is fantastic, hrhrhrhrrh,also i check power consumption, Atari plus ide2 and 6gb toshiba mk6412 hdd is 1200mA Atari plus ide2 and memory card is 1000 mA Test under read large file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Myself tested the following: http://www.vesalia.de/d_ide25cfx2hdd.htm Works without any problems. CF Card I used was Transcend 2GB (80X) and Transcend 4GB (133x). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 i was considering one of those, they look nice... sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Myself tested the following: http://www.vesalia.d...de25cfx2hdd.htm Works without any problems. CF Card I used was Transcend 2GB (80X) and Transcend 4GB (133x). Man that is nice, wonder what board is inside it tho? Sloopy if you decide to bite let me know and I might go in on the order with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 wonder if these work? http://www.vesalia.de/e_ide25sdcfhdd.htm CF and SD in one adaptor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Sloop - Orph - let me know if either of you get one of those CF adapters, and I will also order one or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I already have 2 CF adaptors for my Amigas 1200 but I would prefer an SD adaptor because SD cards nowadays are much more used. Vesalia adapters are beautiful but I would prefer something cheaper, if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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