ozma wars #1 Posted May 11, 2011 hi guys with a friend of mine thinking to release a limited number ( limited because we only got few eprom ) of METEORIC SHOWER for Colecovision. We will get 15 carts, more or less. Five for us and our friends and may be ten for sale. Someone would be interested in ? We will use recycled Colecovision cartridge shells. No box, no instructions, only the game in cart form for people like me that prefer to play old games on the real thing. Basically this game was chosen because very difficoult to find in cart form despite not the best shooter of all times. Also because, please let me know if I am wrong, this game is public domain now (not so ? ). Who would be interested ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColecoDan #2 Posted May 11, 2011 I don't know about public domain but if you are making some kind of fancy authentic label it would be nice for the collectors in the group if you could put some kind of identifying mark on the label so we know it is not the authentic real deal cart since there are so many fakes out there and it is so hard to find the real deal. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yurkie #3 Posted May 11, 2011 I agree with Dan that there should be something on the label that easily identifies it as a remake. Question: Was this game released by Bit Corp, or was this game only published by Telegames? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozma wars #4 Posted May 11, 2011 noted. If we do that, we will apply a label that will identify the cart as a reproduction. I have never seen the cart. But some photos on the web clearly show the game released by BIT C. directly. Personally I only played it on the DINA2in1 and Personal Arcade by Telegames ( same systems, different name, different powercord attachment) so not really happy to connect a new system to play this game only all times.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NIAD #5 Posted May 11, 2011 I agree with Dan that there should be something on the label that easily identifies it as a remake. Question: Was this game released by Bit Corp, or was this game only published by Telegames? Agree that any new production of this game and for that matter any other games/protos should be clearly identified as a "REMAKE" or "HOMEBREW" creation for the reasons mentioned. If you can reproduce the original label, I may be interested in one. Also note that the original cartridge release was housed in a cart shell identical to those used by Epyx, Fisher Price, Spinnaker, Sierra On-Line and possibly some others and I have seen two different orientations of the label. See the two pics below. Meteoric Shower and Cosmic Crisis were in deed released in cartridge form by Bit Corp and Strike-It! and Tank Wars were never officially released by them. TeleGames released all the Bit Corp. games under their label WITH THE EXCEPTION of Meteoric Shower... since that was built-into the Personal Arcade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozma wars #6 Posted May 12, 2011 whether the game in cart form would be of interest, why not to do a reproduction of the label. Unfortunately, this only an hobby because we have some remaining pcb and some friends asked for this game. We are working to create a Colecovision club with people aged 40 and not interested in following the homebrew scene but only to add their collection of the games they missed in the 80's. Anyway I have not a good scan of the label and accept eventual suggests how to make it with correct form, right combination paper/glue. better, I welcome a volunteer interested in doing 15 of them, to be paid with such a game cart or with other Colecovision related items. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifershalo #7 Posted May 12, 2011 how come none of the coleco websites mainly http://www.colecovision.dk and http://www.colecovisionzone.com/index.html list the 8 bit games ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ten-four #8 Posted May 12, 2011 how come none of the coleco websites mainly http://www.colecovision.dk and http://www.colecovis....com/index.html list the 8 bit games ?? I'm not quite sure what you mean, but bit corp. games are included in this list: CV list. I have no additional details about these games and can only refer to CV FAQ 4.1 pdf. page 16-17-18. and again from page 24. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retroillucid #9 Posted May 12, 2011 I've bunch of labels for Bit Corp games lying around here I made the one who made those NIAD post here (post #5) Does people here really want bootleg copies of those Bit Corp games ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifershalo #10 Posted May 12, 2011 how come none of the coleco websites mainly http://www.colecovision.dk and http://www.colecovis....com/index.html list the 8 bit games ?? I'm not quite sure what you mean, but bit corp. games are included in this list: CV list. I have no additional details about these games and can only refer to CV FAQ 4.1 pdf. page 16-17-18. and again from page 24. Yes, but no pictures of the box, cart or screenshots that is a shame I dont want bootleg copies of those but I wouldnt mind having the "original" ones in my collection but they are probably too expensive for me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozma wars #11 Posted May 12, 2011 I've bunch of labels for Bit Corp games lying around here I made the one who made those NIAD post here (post #5) Does people here really want bootleg copies of those Bit Corp games ? I remember you also were selling in the past reproduction on carts of rare games..why not more ? I also remember some labels like the Donkey Kong Adam... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retroillucid #12 Posted May 12, 2011 I remember you also were selling in the past reproduction on carts of rare games..why not more ? These were made for a friend who (at time) was collecting Colecovision stuff, he's a member here (krualgiz) He sold ALL his colecovision stuff on ebay last year or so.... I'm not against making copies of rare/unreleased games, but since those games are very rare (in Bit Corp form) ... it would be nice to identify them as reproduction Otherwise, if you really want to play them, you can always buy a Telegames version wich will cost only a few dollars for a cart I also remember some labels like the Donkey Kong Adam... ? ... not sure what you mean here .... ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NIAD #13 Posted May 12, 2011 I've bunch of labels for Bit Corp games lying around here I made the one who made those NIAD post here (post #5) Does people here really want bootleg copies of those Bit Corp games ? I remember you also were selling in the past reproduction on carts of rare games..why not more ? I also remember some labels like the Donkey Kong Adam... Coleco did update/produce a Donkey Kong cart with the message on it "For ColecoVision & ADAM" compared to the original 1982 label which read "Coleco Vision Presents". There were also 4 other Coleco made carts that were released with this label variation: Mr. Do!, Pepper II, Time Pilot and Victory. See pic below for an example (provided by ColecoVision Zone.com as I'm too lazy to pull mine out and take a pic ). Now if you are talking about the Homebrew Proto release of Super Donkey Kong that was put on cartridge in small quantities by (me thinks) Sean Kelly for CGE and maybe someone else later, those pop up on eBay every now and then. I've attached two pics of those productions and there was one other label made that I don't have a pic for but saw on eBay a couple of months ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozma wars #14 Posted May 13, 2011 I remember you also were selling in the past reproduction on carts of rare games..why not more ? These were made for a friend who (at time) was collecting Colecovision stuff, he's a member here (krualgiz) He sold ALL his colecovision stuff on ebay last year or so.... I'm not against making copies of rare/unreleased games, but since those games are very rare (in Bit Corp form) ... it would be nice to identify them as reproduction I think we will simply write Meteoric Shower - copy2011 Otherwise, if you really want to play them, you can always buy a Telegames version wich will cost only a few dollars for a cart never seen Meteoric Shower in cart form.. I also remember some labels like the Donkey Kong Adam... I mean the ColecoVision version of the game with some small animation and one screen more..is that a Proto or the Adam version ? ? ... not sure what you mean here .... ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozma wars #15 Posted May 13, 2011 never seen Meteoric Shower in cart form.. I mean the ColecoVision version of the game with some small animation and one screen more..is that a Proto or the Adam version ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColecoDan #16 Posted May 13, 2011 never seen Meteoric Shower in cart form.. I mean the ColecoVision version of the game with some small animation and one screen more..is that a Proto or the Adam version ? It wasn't done by colecovision but by programmers that released it in CGE. I also do not remember who did it but they made 3 different labels and sold them at one of the shows. I have the label that wasn't pictured here. I also have the Super Donkey Kong Jr cart that they did as well which has the extra screen as well. I think people said they used the adam version as a template to create the cart form but did not have enough room to make it fully functional. The Super DKjr is fully functional screen but not the Donkey Kong there is no collision detection in the extra screen. It is more of a novelty to have the Super Donkey Kong since the screen doesn't work, Opcode's release will make this game only important to collection completists as his version will crush the incomplete super donkey kong cart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pixelboy #17 Posted May 13, 2011 It is more of a novelty to have the Super Donkey Kong since the screen doesn't work, Opcode's release will make this game only important to collection completists as his version will crush the incomplete super donkey kong cart. Dude, we're talking about an arcade-perfect port of Donkey Kong! The simple act of comparing the two will be downright insulting! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yurkie #18 Posted May 13, 2011 It is more of a novelty to have the Super Donkey Kong since the screen doesn't work, Opcode's release will make this game only important to collection completists as his version will crush the incomplete super donkey kong cart. Dude, we're talking about an arcade-perfect port of Donkey Kong! The simple act of comparing the two will be downright insulting! Well almost arcade perfect, since it is going to be displayed horizontally, instead of vertically like the Arcade was. Graphics are super nice! I was lucky enough to play it on an actual ColecoVision with a proto memory module at MGC (Midwest Gaming Classic) 2010. All it seemed to be missing was the sound. Very Impressive port! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NIAD #19 Posted May 13, 2011 It wasn't done by colecovision but by programmers that released it in CGE. I also do not remember who did it but they made 3 different labels and sold them at one of the shows. I have the label that wasn't pictured here. I also have the Super Donkey Kong Jr cart that they did as well which has the extra screen as well. I think people said they used the adam version as a template to create the cart form but did not have enough room to make it fully functional. The Super DKjr is fully functional screen but not the Donkey Kong there is no collision detection in the extra screen. It is more of a novelty to have the Super Donkey Kong since the screen doesn't work, Opcode's release will make this game only important to collection completists as his version will crush the incomplete super donkey kong cart. I was always of the opinion/thought that the ColecoVision versions of Super Donkey Kong and Super Donkey Kong Jr. were actually Coleco made productions that were done back in 1983 as part of their infanous unveiling of the ADAM Computer... possibly at a Trade Show or private showing after the Summer CES '83 Show that we all know was done with smoke and mirrors. I've heard varying stories about the ColecoVision board in the ADAM Memory Console being enhanced with extra RAM Memory OR a hidden ColecoVision with the enhanced RAM Memory that was used to demonstrate a number of "ADAM" specific titles including these enhanced versions of DK and DK Jr. (even though they are 32K images), that were passed off as the SuperGame versions that would be available on Data Pack. I also remember seeing these ROM files available in the early 90's, so that would lead me to believe that they are actually Coleco made creations and not some nameless programmer that took it upon himself to try and convert or use as a guide the ADAM SuperGame version to finally make complete versions for the ColecoVision. It would be nice to know for sure, one way or the other. BTW, I asked Sean Kelly about these as well and he recalls seeing enlarged cartridge shells containing these games that he thought were Coleco made as well. Hopefully someone that has the "inside scoop" will chime in eventually in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozma wars #20 Posted May 16, 2011 ok, one week later I can say this game will be not produced out of the original group because of only 1 people having expressed eventual interest in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinP #21 Posted July 7, 2012 please let me know if you have availible Colecovision Meotoric Shower for sale. Thanks, M. Pardys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NIAD #22 Posted July 8, 2012 please let me know if you have availible Colecovision Meotoric Shower for sale. Thanks, M. Pardys If an ORIGINAL cartridge does ever turn up, get ready to pay through the nose. I would guesstimate for the cartridge alone you would be talking in the ballpark of $750 and complete with the box and manual about $1500... and those prices could end up being on the very low side. The real problem here is KNOWING if it is an original or a reproduction. I've seen two loose carts over the years and while they looked authentic, you'll probably never know with 100% certainty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinP #23 Posted July 8, 2012 Thanks! I am looking for a reproduction of Colecovision's Meotroic Shower cartridge. M. Pardys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NIAD #24 Posted July 8, 2012 Thanks! I am looking for a reproduction of Colecovision's Meotroic Shower cartridge. M. Pardys In that case, $100. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinP #25 Posted July 8, 2012 Is this price just a quote of how much the game costs or do you have this cartridge for sale? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites