520 stm ram upgrade + game suggestions

[jc78_2005]

i am the soon to be a new st user, the 520 stm is the model i have coming to me, ,i have read that some models have the ram soldered to the board. can anyone confirm if the stm is socketed, or would i have to solder more ram to the board? thanks in advance, also, Which are like the top 20 must have games. single density for now til li get the drive upgraded.

[Charlie_]

i am the soon to be a new st user, the 520 stm is the model i have coming to me, ,i have read that some models have the ram soldered to the board. can anyone confirm if the stm is socketed, or would i have to solder more ram to the board? thanks in advance, also, Which are like the top 20 must have games. single density for now til li get the drive upgraded.

 

I've only recently got my 1st ST. So far these games I really like:

 

Black Tiger

Rampage

Gauntlet

Gauntlet II

Pac-Mania

Shadow Warrior

Space Harrier

ALtered Beast

Predator

Chaos Engine

Rogue

The King's Quest games...

Black Lamp

The Sword and the Rose

Barbarian

Barbarian II

Wings of Death

Golden Axe

 

Great site for game info:

http://www.atari.st/

 

Great site for downloading games:

http://www.climatics.com

[jc78_2005]

i am the soon to be a new st user, the 520 stm is the model i have coming to me, ,i have read that some models have the ram soldered to the board. can anyone confirm if the stm is socketed, or would i have to solder more ram to the board? thanks in advance, also, Which are like the top 20 must have games. single density for now til li get the drive upgraded.

 

I've only recently got my 1st ST. So far these games I really like:

 

Black Tiger

Rampage

Gauntlet

Gauntlet II

Pac-Mania

Shadow Warrior

Space Harrier

ALtered Beast

Predator

Chaos Engine

Rogue

The King's Quest games...

Black Lamp

The Sword and the Rose

Barbarian

Barbarian II

Wings of Death

Golden Axe

 

Great site for game info:

http://www.atari.st/

 

Great site for downloading games:

http://www.climatics.com

 

thanks for the info and the links

[Charlie_]

Hey, NP.

Sorry I was pressed for time yesterday.

 

This is a great program. ST Detective. It lets you find what menu disk a game you might be looking for is on. Then you can normaly find the menu disk in the unsorted section of the link in my previous post.

 

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=28318#28318

 

Then you can use this program to make the disks from images on a Windows PC. It is fantastic.

 

http://atari.8bitchip.info/floimgd.php

 

I'm affriad your going to be limited with the single sided drive, until you get it upgraded...

 

Enjoy!

[jc78_2005]

thanks again! , yeah i knwo im limited with the single side, im alraedy on the hunt for the sf 314. hopefully i can live with a few classics til li find one.

[Thorsten Günther]

For good games that were (originally) on single-sided disks, I'd recommend

 

Starglider

Nebulus (aka Tower Toppler, depending on which side of the pond you live)

Elite

Xenon

Oids

Stunt Car Racer

Time Bandit

The Pawn

 

 

You should either get a double-sided disk drive or a HxC (will this work inside the SF354 case?). A RAM expansion is also recommended (1 meg will suffice for games, but 4 megs - using a 72 pin DRAM type SIMM, the appropriate socket and the instructions given by the late Techie Alison here are better of course).

 

Thorsten

[jc78_2005]

For good games that were (originally) on single-sided disks, I'd recommend

 

Starglider

Nebulus (aka Tower Toppler, depending on which side of the pond you live)

Elite

Xenon

Oids

Stunt Car Racer

Time Bandit

The Pawn

 

 

You should either get a double-sided disk drive or a HxC (will this work inside the SF354 case?). A RAM expansion is also recommended (1 meg will suffice for games, but 4 megs - using a 72 pin DRAM type SIMM, the appropriate socket and the instructions given by the late Techie Alison here are better of course).

 

Thorsten

 

 

thank you for the games list and info, the 1 meg ram expansion im for sure looking into, im looking for a double sided drive now, and please explain what a hxc is? thanks!

jeff

[Thorsten Günther]

The HxC is a floppy drive replacement accepting (depending on which version one purchases) either USB data from a PC or SD flash memory cards instead of disks (the latter one is equipped with an LCD for selecting the appropriate disk image).

 

Link

 

It's available from Lotharek in Poland (either via his site or his eBay listings eBay Seller: lotharek1977).

[jc78_2005]

The HxC is a floppy drive replacement accepting (depending on which version one purchases) either USB data from a PC or SD flash memory cards instead of disks (the latter one is equipped with an LCD for selecting the appropriate disk image).

 

Link

 

It's available from Lotharek in Poland (either via his site or his eBay listings eBay Seller: lotharek1977).

 

 

ohhh i c,, well that looks to be the way to go, i used to have something similar to that for the atari 8bit line, it was very handy. thank you very much, looks like i would be better off getting one of those i imagine. so could i just install that in say the sf354 case?

[jc78_2005]

Can anyone confirm the hxc either working with double sided images or not, installed in the sf 354?

 

 

[+wood_jl]

Can anyone confirm the hxc either working with double sided images or not, installed in the sf 354?

 

Oh yeah, I use the HxC all the time in an SF354 case. I didn't want to deface my SF314.

 

 

 

 

It was a bit of a pain in the butt getting extension cables. I bought some PC floppy cables and connectors and made the extension for the data cable. I was not able to find a female plug to make an actual power extension, so I just cut and spliced to lengthen the power wire. There's a thread about it here, somewhere in the ST forum, where I think (??) I posted my findings (etc) but I'll tell you I'm a rank amateur.

 

edit: I should say I use HxC all the time WITH SF354 case, not "in." The plan is to go "in" later.

 

 

edit again: This thread.....

 

http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/165297-where-to-source-st-floppy-cables-power-extension/

 

......has some info.

Edited May 25, 2011 by wood_jl

[jc78_2005]

Can anyone confirm the hxc either working with double sided images or not, installed in the sf 354?

 

Oh yeah, I use the HxC all the time in an SF354 case. I didn't want to deface my SF314.

 

 

 

 

It was a bit of a pain in the butt getting extension cables. I bought some PC floppy cables and connectors and made the extension for the data cable. I was not able to find a female plug to make an actual power extension, so I just cut and spliced to lengthen the power wire. There's a thread about it here, somewhere in the ST forum, where I think (??) I posted my findings (etc) but I'll tell you I'm a rank amateur.

 

edit: I should say I use HxC all the time WITH SF354 case, not "in." The plan is to go "in" later.

 

 

edit again: This thread.....

 

http://www.atariage....ower-extension/

 

......has some info.

 

 

ahhh great! thanks soo much for confirming, hxc is for sure my next atari purchase! thanks for the links also.

[Charlie_]

That HxC looks fantastic. What is .hfe image though? I've seen MSA and ST images are they easily converted to hfe for use with the HxC? Does the HxC support MSA and ST images?

Edited May 25, 2011 by Official Ninja

[mimo]

That HxC looks fantastic. What is .hfe image though? I've seen MSA and ST images are they easily converted to hfe for use with the HxC? Does the HxC support MSA and ST images?

 

I cant remember the files HxC supports for ST, but I remember it worked better with .msa files.

There is a simple programm that will batch convert .msa (and others) to .hfe. Quick and painless, but the HxC will only read .hfa files so you have to do the conversion