Chilly Willy Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Where there actually any popular systems that used the '060 (apart from numerous miggy and falcon/tt upgrades, though i have'nt heard of any st upgrades using '060) as the preferred processor Nope. Just Amiga, Atari, and a couple Mac upgrade cards from third parties. Which is too bad as it was an excellent processor - more than a match for the Pentium at the time. Motorola abandoned it for the PowerPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Nope. Just Amiga, Atari, and a couple Mac upgrade cards from third parties. Which is too bad as it was an excellent processor - more than a match for the Pentium at the time. Motorola abandoned it for the PowerPC. I think the network kit of the era used them. Eg Cisco 2500 routers feature the 68030 in some models, dare say the bigger devices will have used the bigger devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Willy Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I think the network kit of the era used them. Eg Cisco 2500 routers feature the 68030 in some models, dare say the bigger devices will have used the bigger devices. Probably some printers, too, but he did ask for "popular systems" rather than support devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predatux Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Hi again. I'm trying to install virtualjaguar in another 64 bits Pc, and i have this error: /usr/include/SDL/SDL_opengl.h:47:58: error fatal: GL/glu.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio All the dependences are installed. Can you help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 Hmm, it seems that your dependencies for SDL are not satisfied. From the looks of it, it would seem that the machine you're attempting to install to doesn't have the developer GLU libraries installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predatux Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Ok, thanks a lot. I have broken dependences All solved and emulator running. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The website for VJ is down. I found a download though dated this week. Joystick support not good, won't see my run of the mill Gravis USB pad's D-pad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Well, I guess Ryan is doing some maintenance on icculus.org as the main page is gone too. The latest development series can always be found on http://outrage.the-crow.co.uk/builds/, what's on the main site is always the latest official release. Also, support for gamepads was taken out since before the official 2.0.0 release and will finally return in the 2.1.0 release. That said, 2.1.0 is just around the corner. Just have to polish a few things and decide whether or not a few regressions are worth holding up the release anymore. I'm thinking no, since the performance of it is so much better now than it was. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Performance is great, at least on my PC (i7-920), just stinks that I am using buttons instead of the d-pad! Thanks for the hard work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) Well, I guess Ryan is doing some maintenance on icculus.org as the main page is gone too. The latest development series can always be found on http://outrage.the-crow.co.uk/builds/, what's on the main site is always the latest official release. Also, support for gamepads was taken out since before the official 2.0.0 release and will finally return in the 2.1.0 release. That said, 2.1.0 is just around the corner. Just have to polish a few things and decide whether or not a few regressions are worth holding up the release anymore. I'm thinking no, since the performance of it is so much better now than it was. Do these still need the QT stuff, if not, is the Version of VJ without the QT stuff been updated along with your updates (and link please) Edited January 24, 2013 by carmel_andrews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 icculus.org is back! The builds on outrage are all statically linked and need no external libraries. That will be true of official releases from here on out as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 icculus.org is back! The builds on outrage are all statically linked and need no external libraries. That will be true of official releases from here on out as well. MB as our french friends say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I checked out the latest from GIT and compiled on OS X 10.8.2. Performance is much better than 2.0.2, but it's still fairly choppy and sound has a lot of static. The windows builds which were linked to don't have this issue. Is this currently a known issue for Mac builds? For reference, this is running on a 2.2Ghz Core i7 with 16GB RAM. EDIT: Just to add ... CPU utilization never exceeds 82% (usually down around 50%) and anywhere from 3 to 6 threads will be active at a given time. The sound problems can even be heard from from the opening BIOS screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 To be honest I don't know what the problem could be as your machine has more than enough raw oomph to run VJ without problems (other than those that we know about). Choppy video could be bad OpenGL drivers and/or bad Qt timers; static-y sound could be an SDL issue, a sound IRQ issue, any number of things. By all rights, it should work just as well as the Linux and Windows versions... Do any other SDL/OpenGL apps compiled from source exhibit the same problems? If so, then it could be libraries that out of whack. Other than that, I haven't the foggiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 All other SDL/OpenGL apps (including MAME) work fine, so I don't expect that to be an issue. Video is good for the most part. AvP isn't full speed, but close. The main issue is the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Well, it could be that the OS isn't giving the sound IRQ enough time to do its thing then. It's hard to say without knowing what VJ is getting for running time. If you have a system monitor which shows CPU utilization graphically (something gkrellm for Linux) that might yield some clues. Can you run the Windows version on your machine through Wine? If it performs as poorly as the native one, that would also tell something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Running on Windows 7 with i7-2.67Ghz 8GB Ram, performance still perfect. Though as I said, cannot get the D-pad to work. I have an old Gravis Gamepad Pro USB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Can you run the Windows version on your machine through Wine? If it performs as poorly as the native one, that would also tell something. I can't get it working at all through Wine. It starts to load the app, but the UI never displays. It works fine under both Parallels and VMware Fusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 OK, so the native app performs worse than the Windows version under Parallels and Fusion? That would seem to implicate whatever libraries you're using during the build process. Can you list which versions you're using to compile VJ with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Yup, the native app on OS X is noticibly worse than in Windows through virtualization. Here's what I'm using to build. Everything is the latest from Macports: gcc - 4.2.1 (from latest Xcode release) SDL - 1.2.15 zlib - 1.2.7 QT - 4.8.3 I've tried compiling with GCC 4.4 and higher, but get the following error while building: g++: unrecognized option '-Xarch_x86_64' cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-arch" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Hmm, it looks like that version of gcc is quite old; that might have something to do with it. All the other lib versions look current. Also, not sure where that -Xarch_x86_64 flag is coming from, it sure doesn't come from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Also, not sure where that -Xarch_x86_64 flag is coming from, it sure doesn't come from us. Here's where it comes during the build process: -e *** Making Virtual Jaguar GUI...g++ -c -pipe `sdl-config --cflags` -O2 -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -arch x86_64 -Xarch_x86_64 -mmacosx-version-min=10.5 -Wall -W -D__GCCUNIX__ -D__THINK_STUPID__ -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_OPENGL_LIB -DQT_GUI_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.3/mkspecs/macx-g++ -I. -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.3/lib/QtCore.framework/Versions/4/Headers -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.3/include/QtCore -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.3/lib/QtGui.framework/Versions/4/Headers -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.3/include/QtGui -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.3/lib/QtOpenGL.framework/Versions/4/Headers -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.3/include/QtOpenGL -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.3/include -Isrc -Isrc/gui -I/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Headers -I/System/Library/Frameworks/AGL.framework/Headers -Iobj -F/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.3/lib -o obj/about.o src/gui/about.cpp It's likely coming from QT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Those -X and -m look like Apple specific extensions to gcc. Maybe qmake tuned its output for the Apple version of gcc? If so, perhaps doing a "make clean" before compiling with the newer compiler will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Those -X and -m look like Apple specific extensions to gcc. Maybe qmake tuned its output for the Apple version of gcc? If so, perhaps doing a "make clean" before compiling with the newer compiler will help. Yes, they are Apple specific and QT is building its makefile using Apple specific syntax. This behaviour happens regardless of what compiler is set to default before a clean compile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Maybe there's a switch in qmake that turns off those Apple specific flags? Or you could try removing them from the generated Makefile by hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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