To preserve Atari Memories and work

[José Pereira]

Sometime ago I was thinking if something happen to me...

And to others and what could be lost.

Me probably just G2F but some usefull ideas to others.

But there are many of you that have code, unreleased things, almost working/ended Things,...

And we never know what can happen just in the next seconds.

 

And just thought a way, probably, that it could be a way to preserve:

 

We have ATARI sites like AtariAge, atariOnline, AtariFandal, AtariMania,...

These are trust sites/persons that sure can be a 'Bank' to all deposit their ATARI Work/Thoughts/...

The idea is to have a Mail like:

'atari.(Machine, like, for ex. 8bit or st or 2600).(name of the owner)@gmail.com'

 

The owner and these sites will know eachone password.

Eachone give a friend or someone of the family a contact of them if something bad happens.

I know this may seems a little bit morbid but we just know it will happen one day, but don't know when...

 

 

Just to share.

to all that have ATARI in their Heart.

José Pereira.

[flashjazzcat]

You make a good point, José. MrFish and I saw fit to address this exact issue with regard to one especially large project. It's really something worth thinking about.

[fibrewire]

My life revolves around the theory and practical application of CDP (continuous data protection) including virtualization, cybersecurity, and natural disaster mitigation on an extremely large scale.

 

I would be happy to share any ideas for software and systems necessary to keep track of a multinational corporation like AtariAge

[UNIXcoffee928]

My life revolves around the theory and practical application of CDP (continuous data protection) including virtualization, cybersecurity, and natural disaster mitigation on an extremely large scale.

 

I would be happy to share any ideas for software and systems necessary to keep track of a multinational corporation like AtariAge

I have also done this type of work for large corporations. I'll be happy to help, as well. I propose that we we call it something like the "Raster Memorial Databank", in his memory.

 

 

[José Pereira]

The idea is to have an 'Atari Bank' where all have their work that will only be shared with all in case of something bad happens.

 

The owners will be the 'trust ones' (like AtariAge, AtariOnline, Atari.Fandal, AtariMania,...) and the owner/the Author.

It will be on a Mail adress to save space.

The 'Trust ones' have acess to all Mails but assure they will not reproduce/turn public without the Author authorization or if something bad happens to him.

 

For an Atari 8bit like me it could be:

 

[email protected]

 

 

OR if I have also Atari ST it would also be:

[email protected]

 

 

 

 

 

This is a question of preserve all we have and that one day all can share.

These are 'Trusted' sites as we all know.

It is not create a new site, there lots of space for all Atari Members have a Mail with this 'Adress Treminology'

So I don't see any problem in doing this.

 

 

 

José Pereira.

[UNIXcoffee928]

We were proposing a more sophisticated, modern solution. Using email is not an effective solution... if you have ever sifted through 200 emails, let alone 200,000 emails, you would understand why.

 

If you want to go lo-tech, just use ftp. Have a sticky thread here, with an ftp address link. Multiple mirrors of the ftp server can be geographically dispersed quite easily, to ensure redundancy.

 

There are thousands of other ways to implement a solution to this. For the most part, though, they require that the user makes deliberate backups to their ftp account or other cloud-based solution. This is impossible to do, in the case of untimely death. Many of the other methods, which can be done automatically, without intervention of the user, require 'trust relationships' between the user's machines and the servers that are backing things up. This type of setup will keep your info synced, even if you die, but, it's implementation & maintenance is a lot to ask of a group of casual users.

 

Another issue, mentioned elsewhere, is how do we prevent rare hardware from going to the dumpster, in the case of untimely death.

 

As far as the hardware goes, I would say that there should be an Atari Museum of some sort that people could leave their devices to, in their Will, if they don't have next of kin who can appreciate the value of antique computer gear.

 

Feel free to bandy about any ideas, and we'll narrow it down to something that works.

Edited July 30, 2011 by UNIXcoffee928

[rchennau]

I like the Atari hardware museum idea! I seriously doubt my eight year old son will appreciate a 1980's computer in 2071 when I planned to die at the ripe old age of 100!

 

 

 

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As far as the hardware goes, I would say that there should be an Atari Museum of some sort that people could leave their devices to, in their Will, if they don't have next of kin who can appreciate the value of antique computer gear.

 

Feel free to bandy about any ideas, and we'll narrow it down to something that works.

[+Philsan]

Atari 8-bit computers do not even have a nice website with professional photos of hardware in new condition!

[+bob1200xl]

This would work best as a corporation, with stockholders, a Board and at least a CEO. Set up a website, advertise, collect and distribute Atari stuff that is no longer available from commercial enterprises. (buy their inventory, if available) Contract out h/w and s/w projects. Act as the center...

 

Bob

 

 

We were proposing a more sophisticated, modern solution. Using email is not an effective solution... if you have ever sifted through 200 emails, let alone 200,000 emails, you would understand why.

 

If you want to go lo-tech, just use ftp. Have a sticky thread here, with an ftp address link. Multiple mirrors of the ftp server can be geographically dispersed quite easily, to ensure redundancy.

 

There are thousands of other ways to implement a solution to this. For the most part, though, they require that the user makes deliberate backups to their ftp account or other cloud-based solution. This is impossible to do, in the case of untimely death. Many of the other methods, which can be done automatically, without intervention of the user, require 'trust relationships' between the user's machines and the servers that are backing things up. This type of setup will keep your info synced, even if you die, but, it's implementation & maintenance is a lot to ask of a group of casual users.

 

Another issue, mentioned elsewhere, is how do we prevent rare hardware from going to the dumpster, in the case of untimely death.

 

As far as the hardware goes, I would say that there should be an Atari Museum of some sort that people could leave their devices to, in their Will, if they don't have next of kin who can appreciate the value of antique computer gear.

 

Feel free to bandy about any ideas, and we'll narrow it down to something that works.

[UNIXcoffee928]

This would work best as a corporation, with stockholders, a Board and at least a CEO. Set up a website, advertise, collect and distribute Atari stuff that is no longer available from commercial enterprises. (buy their inventory, if available) Contract out h/w and s/w projects. Act as the center...

 

Bob

lol. That just translates to: Cut out the middle-man, and send all of your stuff to Bob, if you die. ha.

 

 

It would be really trivial for our BBS people to set up ftp. If they needed help, I could explain how to set up accounts, group-based permissions, and work out an access policy with them. Just offering to help.

 

Personally, (while we're talking about doing stuff), I wish that there was something like Aminet for the Atari.

 

 

[svenski]

This would work best as a corporation, with stockholders, a Board and at least a CEO. Set up a website, advertise, collect and distribute Atari stuff that is no longer available from commercial enterprises. (buy their inventory, if available) Contract out h/w and s/w projects. Act as the center...

 

Bob

lol. That just translates to: Cut out the middle-man, and send all of your stuff to Bob, if you die. ha.

 

 

It would be really trivial for our BBS people to set up ftp. If they needed help, I could explain how to set up accounts, group-based permissions, and work out an access policy with them. Just offering to help.

 

Personally, (while we're talking about doing stuff), I wish that there was something like Aminet for the Atari.

 

 

 

 

Well we've got Atarimania, which ok isn't as far reaching as Aminet but it is a lot better than similar sites for some other retro formats.

[svenski]

Atari 8-bit computers do not even have a nice website with professional photos of hardware in new condition!

 

I will get out my minty fresh 800XL, and Atari 410 and do a fansite. Sadly everything else has been used.

[Keatah]

Mmm.. I'd be interested in doing something like this. My area of expertise is insuring data integrity and continuity among individuals and small business. Dealing with backups and classic hardware "trust funds" of a sort if you will. no pun intended.

 

I have my extensive Apple II collection set up with instructions to disseminate correctly in unfortunate circumstances. $40,000 hardware and software and publications, in addition to extensive emulation collection. It ain't getting trashed I assure you.

[Welsh Wizard]

Sometime ago I was thinking if something happen to me...

And to others and what could be lost.

Me probably just G2F but some usefull ideas to others.

But there are many of you that have code, unreleased things, almost working/ended Things,...

And we never know what can happen just in the next seconds.

 

 

Came across this when checking out the site you listed

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3DatariOnline%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D642%26prmd%3Divns&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=pl&twu=1&u=http://atarionline.pl/v01/index.php%3Fct%3Dnowinki%26ucat%3D1%26subaction%3Dshowfull%26id%3D1312146505&usg=ALkJrhg8DzzGq77G6XSjqtMdxVK_H9D4-Q I hope the link works as it deals with the very matter you speak of.

 

As for Atarimania seem you can no longer register on the site though it appears that some posting is still going on.

[Goochman]

Id be happy to manage all the Swiss Bank accounts passwords