Bootay Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Hello, I have had my Harmony cart for a while now and I love it. I have every rom working except for a few and I would like to here from the experts why they aren't working or if there is an alternate dump I need etc. Burger Time (Locks up as soon as rom is loaded) Double Dragon (Screen flips like it's PAL) Kool-Aid Man (Locks up as soon as rom is loaded) Survival Island (I think I read that this is a SuperCharger game and won't work) Sweat! - The Decathalon Game (I get no response from the controller. It keeps saying pick another event on the screen) F-14 Tomcat (Screen flips like it's PAL) That's it. Every other rom works fine for me. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootay Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 Hello, I have had my Harmony cart for a while now and I love it. I have every rom working except for a few and I would like to here from the experts why they aren't working or if there is an alternate dump I need etc. Burger Time (Locks up as soon as rom is loaded) Double Dragon (Screen flips like it's PAL) Kool-Aid Man (Locks up as soon as rom is loaded) Survival Island (I think I read that this is a SuperCharger game and won't work) Sweat! - The Decathalon Game (I get no response from the controller. It keeps saying pick another event on the screen) F-14 Tomcat (Screen flips like it's PAL) That's it. Every other rom works fine for me. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Actually I found new dumps of Double Dragon and f-14 Tomcat that work. No luck on the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 You might try the Kool-Aid Man ROM that Nukey Shay hacked for Supercharger (and Stella) compatibility here. Probably you just have a bad ROM, though. Also, Supercharger games should work on the Harmony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 All of those games you listed should work. Could be bad dumps. Some of the others could be as follows:Burger Time (Locks up as soon as rom is loaded) One of the difficulty switches works as a pause switch in this game, and it won't play until you move it to the other position.Kool-Aid Man (Locks up as soon as rom is loaded)This game has a bug that prevents it from working properly on some consoles.Sweat! - The Decathalon Game (I get no response from the controller. It keeps saying pick another event on the screen) This is a prototype and most of the events were never programmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Kool-Aid Man (Locks up as soon as rom is loaded)This game has a bug that prevents it from working properly on some consoles. Also it could simply be that the game is paused by one of the difficulty switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootay Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 Thanks everyone....it was the difficulty switches in the case of ALL the listed games except Sweat which I am going to delete because I didn't know it was a prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Kool-Aid Man (Locks up as soon as rom is loaded)This game has a bug that prevents it from working properly on some consoles. Is that bug remedied by Nukey Shay's hack, or does his hack only help with the Supercharger (and Stella)? Thanks everyone....it was the difficulty switches in the case of ALL the listed games except Sweat which I am going to delete because I didn't know it was a prototype. Glad it worked out, and a good reminder for some of us who haven't played those games in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 i cant get air raid to work properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 i cant get air raid to work properly If you are talking about the screen rolling then that is due to bad programming on the original game. It happens on the real cart as well. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) i cant get air raid to work properly If you are talking about the screen rolling then that is due to bad programming on the original game. It happens on the real cart as well. Mitch then how does one play it on a real system Edited September 14, 2011 by pimpmaul69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 i cant get air raid to work properly If you are talking about the screen rolling then that is due to bad programming on the original game. It happens on the real cart as well. Mitch then how does one play it on a real system Use a different TV that is more tolerant. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Does anyone have issues with the Moonsweeper ROM? It does not display a complete black background when playing the game, it looks white with two black strips on the left and right side. I am also having issues with Frantic, no build whatsoever will work on my cart. It could be my Sears Video Arcade II... I need to try it on a different Atari. Medieval Mayhem works, which is also 32kb, where Moonsweeper and Frantic is not working. Does anyone have any resolutions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Does anyone have issues with the Moonsweeper ROM? It does not display a complete black background when playing the game, it looks white with two black strips on the left and right side. I am also having issues with Frantic, no build whatsoever will work on my cart. It could be my Sears Video Arcade II... I need to try it on a different Atari. Medieval Mayhem works, which is also 32kb, where Moonsweeper and Frantic is not working. Does anyone have any resolutions? Did you try updating the bios to 1.05, as mentioned in the other thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerSpaceFan Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I am also having issues with Frantic, no build whatsoever will work on my cart. It could be my Sears Video Arcade II... I need to try it on a different Atari. Medieval Mayhem works, which is also 32kb, where Moonsweeper and Frantic is not working. Does anyone have any resolutions? Did you try updating the bios to 1.05, as mentioned in the other thread? For what it's worth, I also cannot get Frantic working on my Harmony Cart (and yes I have BIOS 1.05) but that is because I am playing on a FlashBack 2 modded to play cartridges. From what the Frantic folks tell me, there's nothing they can do about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Yes I am updated to the latest BIOS, that was the first thing I did. I am playing on a Sears Video Arcade II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Is that bug remedied by Nukey Shay's hack, or does his hack only help with the Supercharger (and Stella)?The collision-detection bug from the original game is corrected in the hack - it should work regardless of what hardware or emulator you use. It was pure serendipity on the programmer's part that the original game ever worked correctly at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The collision-detection bug from the original game is corrected in the hack - it should work regardless of what hardware or emulator you use. It was pure serendipity on the programmer's part that the original game ever worked correctly at all Heh, interesting. I wish I knew more about VCS hardware so as to better appreciate this, though there's a writeup here that gives me some sense of what the details are. Were all of the issues with this game caused by a single bug, then? Or was adding Supercharger compatibility a separate and distinct step, unrelated to the collision-detection bug? Either way, thanks for doing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Unrelated. The original program steps on the ROM (cartridge) memory address that the Supercharger uses as it's "bankswitching hotspot". By calling that address, the Supercharger unit is intended to swap out 2k of it's ram memory with an alternate 2k...a 3rd 2k of memory holding the program lines that handle the swapping (the Supercharger uses 6k of RAM memory to hold a loaded program treated as ROM memory by the 2600, but the 2600 by design can only "see" 4k of it at any time due to the use of the hobbled 6507 CPU). It's fortunate for everyone that they chose to use an address that is close to the end of cartridge memory addressing as the hotspot trigger (so a good deal of 4k roms will run perfectly without modification). Those that do use that ROM memory address in any way would need to be altered (or the Supercharger itself needs to be modified to ignore the triggering request)...otherwise, the unit bankswitches and the empty 2k of RAM memory is swapped in - typically corrupting a running program in the process. Basically, forgetting half of the program that has been loaded. Anyway, the games in that thread are altered so that they no longer use that triggering address in any way...making them compatable with unmodified Superchargers. And I figured as long as I was altering that, I might as well apply a collision fix as well. The glitch and it's cause was described by the guys at [stella], so it didn't take any effort on my part...other than scrounging up a couple of bytes in ROM memory space to insert the program line. Edited November 4, 2011 by Nukey Shay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFL Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I just got my Harmony cart today and I'm loving it except I can't seem to get Beamrider to start properly... I am in the UK so I'm using PAL ROMs on my 2600 Jnr. Everytime I start the game it jumps to Sector 8 and I get my arse handed to me! I've never owned the original so I'm not sure about difficulty settings though after messing around nothing seems to make the game start at Sector 1... Any help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I just got my Harmony cart today and I'm loving it except I can't seem to get Beamrider to start properly... I am in the UK so I'm using PAL ROMs on my 2600 Jnr. Everytime I start the game it jumps to Sector 8 and I get my arse handed to me! I've never owned the original so I'm not sure about difficulty settings though after messing around nothing seems to make the game start at Sector 1... Any help? I just tried it in emulation, and if you have the left difficulty switch in position A (i.e. Pro setting) it will start in sector 8. Push the left difficulty switch to the B position. If that doesn't work post the rom and we'll take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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