rost Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 After I searched through all the Analog-Disk-Mag-Files, flying through the internet, I'm really surprised by the varity of different types an sizes: 37 images are SD and there is a side A and B 17 images are simple SD 2 images are SD but only side A 13 images are ED 1 image is definetly wrong (#31) but I've already a new one (ED). Maybe others are worng too, but I did not check them yet. This all leads to two questions: 9 images are missing (1-8, 33) - Do they exist? Is there a source where all the images exist in a form equal to the original disk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dropcheck Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) After I searched through all the Analog-Disk-Mag-Files, flying through the internet, I'm really surprised by the varity of different types an sizes: 37 images are SD and there is a side A and B 17 images are simple SD 2 images are SD but only side A 13 images are ED 1 image is definetly wrong (#31) but I've already a new one (ED). Maybe others are worng too, but I did not check them yet. This all leads to two questions: 9 images are missing (1-8, 33) - Do they exist? Is there a source where all the images exist in a form equal to the original disk? I doubt that there is an image of any kind for 1-8. As I recall they didn't start doing disk images of their programs until year 2 or 3. You might have some scatter sources for the progs themselves, but not an official disk image. You might try Digital ANALOG if you haven't already. Sorry, just realized that's mainly photocopies of the mags themselves. Best source is going to be typing the listing in. Perhaps someone has already. Edited August 16, 2011 by Dropcheck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/186028-analog-disks-and-game-compilation/page__p__2345007__fromsearch__1#entry2345007 I'm still working on these. My guess is your right, Dropcheck that the first eight or so issues weren't put out on disk. Some of the programs are available from places like Atarimania but some are just going to have to be typed in again. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rost Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Some of the programs are available from places like Atarimania but some are just going to have to be typed in again. You can OCR them from a Scan (despite from special chars). If i know nobody is already doing it, i can convert one... For now i'm looking for #33 trying to complet my set of analog disk images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 1-8 were not available as disk or cassette, but the "Compendium" disks were issued that contained most all of the better programs from 1-9. The Compendium disks were 5 or 6 SD disk sides, IIRC. A likely reason that they are a "mess" is that they were issued in two formats (at first) and then some disks were 1-sided and some were 2-sided. Some would fit on one ED disk side. I took the easy route and put all of mine in DD, but that required MyDos (at the time), so the menu programs have some issues. -Larry Some of the programs are available from places like Atarimania but some are just going to have to be typed in again. You can OCR them from a Scan (despite from special chars). If i know nobody is already doing it, i can convert one... For now i'm looking for #33 trying to complet my set of analog disk images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rost Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) 1-8 were not available as disk or cassette, but the "Compendium" disks were issued that contained most all of the better programs from 1-9. The Compendium disks were 5 or 6 SD disk sides, IIRC. The compendium disks I have too (images): #1 only one side ED #2 two sides (my side a is empty ) ED #3 two sides ED (i already posted for Allan) Anyone has #33 and/or compendium disk #2 side A for me ??? Edited August 17, 2011 by rost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballyalley Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Back in the late nineties I collected as many of the Analog and Antic disks as I could get my hands on. I eventually found most of them (except for the early issues, as you've already discovered). I first started doing this because I wanted to try out as many LOGO programs as I could. I soon found out though that MANY of those disks from that period, even those that were "complete" or "perfect" were far from that. Yes, a "complete" or "perfect" disk might have all the games and programs from a magazine but I soon discovered that there were errors in the programs. I first found the errors in the LOGO listings because I used those first (typing errors or incomplete listings), but then I also found similar problems with the BASIC programs (some of the programs also had modifications). All of those programs and games would have easily have passed the typical "load it up and try it out test." The programs required real use to discover these problems and differences. Some of the typing errors were simple to fix, some were not. I don't have those disks anymore, I now wish that I'd kept them, as it looks as though they MAY be useful. I figured that "one of these days" someone would go through all the disks and magazines and get a complete set together. I'm surprised that it has taken THIS long, but I'm glad to hear that SOMEONE is working on the project. Do you plan to try to test all the programs, or just to collect 'em all? Good luck and HAVE FUN WITH IT! Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 My plan was just to have them all in one spot for downloading. Many times in an issue there was a bug that was printed in the next issue. I'll try to go through the issues and add the fixes. Luckily all the Antic programs are over at www.atarimagazines.com. It's just all the other magazine programs that have to be organized. Analog, Compute, Creative Computing, Computer Shopper, etc. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rost Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 My plan was just to have them all in one spot for downloading. ... It's just all the other magazine programs that have to be organized. Analog, Compute, Creative Computing, Computer Shopper, etc.That's what i try for Action!-Listings and acrticles in our wiki. Still a lot to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wood_jl Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 My plan was just to have them all in one spot for downloading. Many times in an issue there was a bug that was printed in the next issue. I'll try to go through the issues and add the fixes. Luckily all the Antic programs are over at www.atarimagazines.com. It's just all the other magazine programs that have to be organized. Analog, Compute, Creative Computing, Computer Shopper, etc. Allan Allan, a HUGE thumbs-up :thumbsup: :thumbsup: to you for this kind of effort, which shall be enjoyed by the entire A8 scene! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Pretty sure mostly all programs can be found among the various PD collections we have access to, though some files may be altered. Was there a special Atari column in Computer Shopper? I have never seen any issue of the mag but it seems like it could be a potential goldmine of information. I know I sound like a broken record but I still think it's criminal that NOTHING has been preserved of the ACE Newsletter apart from some type-ins. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Pretty sure mostly all programs can be found among the various PD collections we have access to, though some files may be altered. Was there a special Atari column in Computer Shopper? I have never seen any issue of the mag but it seems like it could be a potential goldmine of information. I know I sound like a broken record but I still think it's criminal that NOTHING has been preserved of the ACE Newsletter apart from some type-ins. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com The problem is there all over the place. Yes, Computer Shopper had an Atari column for a number of years. I agree about newsletters like ACE. It would make a nice project for someone to create a webpage with all the user group mags and programs. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Which reminds me that I have some newsletters myself. IIRC, I got them from Tempest several years ago. Hopefully, we'll be able to scan the issues soon and add them to Atarimania. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank a. Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 hi folks, After reviewing my Analog Magazine Disks, I found a broken ARC archive of issue #33. After i've studied this file closer, i could restore it. Since it seems that this disc is very rare i would like to share it with the community. But I do not know whether the disk contains all the programs. Therefore, it would be helpful if someone could say something about that. C.COM, from page 57ff is definitely not included. Have fun, Frank Content of the disk Analog Magazine Disk #33 ------------------------ CLOCKSET.BAS - Page 6 KEYBOARD.BAS - Page 70 NOTEMSTR.BAS - Page 30 SOUND1.ASM - Page 88 SOUND2.ASM - Page 89 SOUND3.ASM - Page 89 SOUND4.ASM - Page 91 SOUND5.ASM - Page 91 SOUND6.ASM - not printed in Magazine, Macro for the ATARI Macro Assembler SOUND7.ASM - not printed in Magazine SOUND8.ASM - not printed in Magazine SOUND9.ASM - not printed in Magazine SYNTRON.BAS - Page 41 SYNTRON.M65 - Page 42 VANFIX.LST - Page 9 VERBOT.MIC - Page 79 (Microsoft Basic) C.BAS - Page 62 C.ASM - Page 62ff (ATARI Macro Assembler) an33.atr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I've found most of the ANALOG disk ATRs available in the Holmes CD archive on pigwa.net. There are a few ATRs missing, Issue33/August85 is among them. ftp://ftp.pigwa.net/stuff/collections/holmes%20cd/Holmes%203/ANALOG/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john-m Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 On the analog disk vol 31, that is an a and b side, it seems that an Action game called R.O.T.O. is not on the disks. There is some other Action file on it. I suppose that is another one that one would have to either search for or type in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Ace Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 There's another thread on AtariAge that has a reconstruction of ROTO.ACT. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/181823-analog-magazine-disk-image-31-0685/ The "Analog Computing 31 1985-06 1 ROTO.atr" is a corrupted set of images from issue 27 (the end of the atr is full of 0x1a bytes, affecting HISEAS.BAS, VANDENBG.BAS and DECODE.ASM). The "Analog Computing 31 1985-06 2 ROTO.atr" files are from that issue. The CALENDAR.BAS image however has a one sector corruption, and ROTO.ACT and UNICHECK.ASM are missing. Lazer Type's assembly listing is also missing, although the magazine only indicates it was available on the ANALOG BBS. I've repaired the corruption Analog Computing 31 1985-06 2 ROTO.atr A few other ANALOG disk images from the thumpnugget collection have corruptions, here are some fixes Analog Computing 29 1985-04 Dragonlord.atr - sector 358 zeroed, affecting DRAGON.ASM Analog Computing 30 1985-05 1 Boulder Bombers.atr - sectors 309, 330 zeroed, affecting ZPLOTTER.BAS, BOMBERS.BAS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Nice to have Ace back in action! Thank you so much! Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Has disk #20 (for issue 1984-07) been imaged yet? This seems to be the last disk needed for the complete set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Check these out... Analog 20A.ATR Analog 20B.ATR 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I'm checkin' 'em. Thanks! I'm surprised they didn't include a compiled version of Bacterion. I suppose it was a way of saving disk space and getting people to invest in compilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) Best source is going to be typing the listing in. Perhaps someone has already. The problem is that Analog (and Antic) disk images came with bonus material on them that had no type-in listings, either because they were too large, or just for subscriber bonus. Sorry, just realized it's another bumped thread! Must I constantly check dates to make sure if something is even still relevant or if I'm answering posts 5-10 years old!? There must be a better way! I'm getting too old to be scouring every detail... Edited December 10, 2017 by Gunstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I'm checkin' 'em. Thanks! I'm surprised they didn't include a compiled version of Bacterion. I suppose it was a way of saving disk space and getting people to invest in compilers. True, Side "B" has 130 free sectors that they could have used, but since they included the Basic Creators, they leave some interaction for the users to create them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 True, Side "B" has 130 free sectors that they could have used, but since they included the Basic Creators, they leave some interaction for the users to create them... Yeah, you're right. It probably would have added some excitement to have a hand in preparing the binary BITD; these days it's more of a nuisance. Anyway, the binary is out there to download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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