A sort of GUITAR HERO for C64

[José Pereira]

GUITAR HERO and C64

 

 

Here you have one of the SID Player versions:

tinysid0959.zip

On the Folder you have some SID's to listen and a Folder I created that have some of the SID Musics that came with the GUITAR HERO attached to a C64 BUT not the (Pirate) program .

(I don't know if it's the Program that is 'out of Law', OR is it the Interface OR are the two )

 

There are thousands of SIDs Files all over the place, just like our Great Raster R.M.T.

 

If anyone would ever be interested this Interface was tested also on VCS2600 and Amiga and it is attached to the Joystick port.

A program similar to an R.M.T. and loading the Guitar signal would be possible:

GUITAR HERO (Pirate) also possible on A8

 

 

Edited August 16, 2011 by José Pereira

[Arkanoid_376970]

I have this on my C=64, the interface is great as a joystick replacement on anything with a DB-9 port, including the A8. Maybe we could ask Toni Westbrook if he can help us construct a similar program to Shredz64 for the A8. All we'd really need is the pot values from AVR chip converted from the Guitar Hero Controller.

 

Thanks

 

Ark

[Tezz]

This was actually discussed a while back here on AA with some preliminary work done with the controller iirc. Best to do a search here and catch up with it.

 

EDIT: Here's the two previous threads. It was xxl who was working on it.

 

playstation-and-guitar-hero-controllers-for-c64atari

 

rock-band-on-atari

Edited August 17, 2011 by Tezz

[José Pereira]

This was actually discussed a while back here on AA with some preliminary work done with the controller iirc. Best to do a search here and catch up with it.

 

EDIT: Here's the two previous threads. It was xxl who was working on it.

 

playstation-and-guitar-hero-controllers-for-c64atari

 

rock-band-on-atari

 

 

Thanks, I am geting translation of that, but probably nothing will ever happen.

No news from 2008...

Here's what I think it was the best or something XXL last got (there was a first version) but there's no Music:

sm1.zip

(sorry need to '7z' and 'zip' because it has 2,52Mb. in simple 'zip')

 

 

But I discouver the C64 video (not banned):

GUITAR HERO on C64

 

 

 

TMR on that AA Thread said:

"Posted Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:46 PM

 

Not really, the game written to use the Guitar Hero hardware, called Shredz64, was only declared completed last week..."

 

 

 

 

Another one that never get into anywhere on A8?

[José Pereira]

The C64 Program file:

shredz64PAL.zip

 

And a screen if someone wants to get the idea into A8:

(or enhance or talk with XXL)

All in C64 Hi-Resolution and that C64 multicolour sprites falling down... Oh my!...)

[+Stephen]

The C64 Program file:

shredz64PAL.zip

 

And a screen if someone wants to get the idea into A8:

(or enhance or talk with XXL)

All in C64 Hi-Resolution and that C64 multicolour sprites falling down... Oh my!...)

Very awesome looking game, and the tune in the 2nd video is 1st class work!

 

Also, I see no reason this wouldn't easily work on the A8 - 5 players on any given line, we have that with no tricks.

[Creature XL]

And sprites are perfectly aligned for mid-line reuse of PMG

[emkay]

And sprites are perfectly aligned for mid-line reuse of PMG

 

 

Hires with PM overlay is always given.

Since the game was called "Guitar Hero" and the SID has those abilites of typical e-Guitar manipulations, it is a "Guitar Hero" somehow.

My concernes are more with the sound. Possibly, the best choice is to directly switch to a Synth-emulation.

It would be noisy, but the sounds were correct.

[José Pereira]

And sprites are perfectly aligned for mid-line reuse of PMG

 

 

Hires with PM overlay is always given.

Since the game was called "Guitar Hero" and the SID has those abilites of typical e-Guitar manipulations, it is a "Guitar Hero" somehow.

My concernes are more with the sound. Possibly, the best choice is to directly switch to a Synth-emulation.

It would be noisy, but the sounds were correct.

 

 

Hey emkay!... Exactly what I was thinking:

The coloured Bars 'going down' are just the same Players numbers at the same xPos like the ones at the Bottom...

 

Not Mid-scanlines changing but probably something could be done for the Status Bar and Letters on the right.

But probably better this way as we would certainly need lots of free cycles to what is the most important thing: THE MUSIC!

Even this way, would we have cycles for the coding of the moving down colours and the Playing Music?

Edited August 17, 2011 by José Pereira

[Rybags]

Looks like a cheap Klax clone.

[José Pereira]

Looks like a cheap Klax clone.

 

Exactly what I thought when I saw that version...

Yeah! But that's what is the the C64 version

 

Or we could at least use this to some kind of a Klax in A8.

Edited August 17, 2011 by José Pereira

[high voltage]

Hypnotic Land:

 

http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-hypnotic-land_2543.html

 

 

Anyhow, any C64 related articles belong under 'Classic Computing'

Edited August 17, 2011 by high voltage

[emkay]

Not Mid-scanlines changing but probably something could be done for the Status Bar and Letters on the right.

 

Erm... LOL?

Why bother with midline changes? You cannot play more than 3 voices at one time. Watch the Videos, sometimes "up to" 2 notes get played ...

[José Pereira]

The coloured Bars 'going down' are just the same Players numbers at the same xPos like the ones at the Bottom...

 

 

This way, would we have cycles for the coding of the moving down colours and the Playing Music?

 

 

Anyone can answered the above question, please...

Thanks.

Edited August 17, 2011 by José Pereira

[José Pereira]

Not Mid-scanlines changing but probably something could be done for the Status Bar and Letters on the right.

 

Erm... LOL?

Why bother with midline changes? You cannot play more than 3 voices at one time. Watch the Videos, sometimes "up to" 2 notes get played ...

 

Can you 'English easy' explain what you wrote?

[emkay]

Can you 'English easy' explain what you wrote?

 

 

When only 2 notes can be played at once, you'd only need 2 players at one scanline. You could even use double players (for 3 colours) without the need for some midline changes.

[José Pereira]

Can you 'English easy' explain what you wrote?

 

 

When only 2 notes can be played at once, you'd only need 2 players at one scanline. You could even use double players (for 3 colours) without the need for some midline changes.

 

But why only two Notes at once?

You'll need what? Combination of two POKEY channels to get 16bit sounds?

 

 

This way, SID is doing what? 3channels at once and real 16bit on each?

[emkay]

 

 

This way, SID is doing what? 3channels at once and real 16bit on each?

 

Such games only use the lead voice(s) .

[José Pereira]

Can you 'English easy' explain what you wrote?

 

 

When only 2 notes can be played at once, you'd only need 2 players at one scanline. You could even use double players (for 3 colours) without the need for some midline changes.

 

But why only two Notes at once?

You'll need what? Combination of two POKEY channels to get 16bit sounds?

 

 

This way, SID is doing what? 3channels at once and real 16bit on each?

 

 

Emkay is me that aren't understand or you didn't answer my questions?

[emkay]

This way, SID is doing what? 3channels at once and real 16bit on each?

 

 

 

Emkay is me that aren't understand or you didn't answer my questions?

 

You seem to "not understand" music related terms.

 

What do you want to play with a guitar?

The drums, the hihats? The piano, the arpeggio?

[Rybags]

"Pan Flute Hero".

 

Copyright/TM problem solved.

 

Original game.

 

Can be done with 16-luma graduated pipes stacked vertically.

[José Pereira]

This way, SID is doing what? 3channels at once and real 16bit on each?

 

 

 

Emkay is me that aren't understand or you didn't answer my questions?

 

You seem to "not understand" music related terms.

 

What do you want to play with a guitar?

The drums, the hihats? The piano, the arpeggio?

 

I wasn't thinking right...

But on this C64 game then why there are times where you have two different colour boxes falling on the same scanline:

GH C64

Can you 'musically' explain this?

 

I was trying to get if 5Players get 5colours and then I would have the 5colours also for the falling sprites.

To get the falling ones I would go for soft sprites and eachone with a Player overlay.

If two by Line is the maximum then 2Multicolours PMs. would do the trick of having them more good colouring/looking and just Hardwares sprites (as they move over PF2-colour of the Table) that would be less cycles use.

 

But now I start wondering that when:

PO&P1Multicolour-Tile 1/(same line)/P2&P3-Tile2

!

!

!

!

<FALLING>

!

!

P0/P1/P5/P2/P3

(Bottom check colour cells)

 

When they get above Bottom colour cells how can we get this?

The Bottom are same Players as the Following ones but the Falling will be the same line as them

Try to understand what I am trying to say... What's the trick to get this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the same question:

There's no problem in wasting some cycles in Mid-Line changes? And where we can do them?

Edited August 17, 2011 by José Pereira

[emkay]

I wasn't thinking right...

But on this C64 game then why there are times where you have two different colour boxes falling on the same scanline:

GH C64

Can you 'musically' explain this?

 

This is a chord. Playing more than one note to have a resulting note. In this case, SID can play up to 3 notes at the same time.

[José Pereira]

I wasn't thinking right...

But on this C64 game then why there are times where you have two different colour boxes falling on the same scanline:

GH C64

Can you 'musically' explain this?

 

This is a chord. Playing more than one note to have a resulting note. In this case, SID can play up to 3 notes at the same time.

 

That is saying that I saw two at the same Line but three would be possible because of SID's 3channels?

And you are coming to my early question...

Would A8 get the 4channels and 4notes? Is this really need/possible?

[José Pereira]

I wasn't thinking right...

But on this C64 game then why there are times where you have two different colour boxes falling on the same scanline:

GH C64

Can you 'musically' explain this?

 

This is a chord. Playing more than one note to have a resulting note. In this case, SID can play up to 3 notes at the same time.

 

That is saying that I saw two at the same Line but three would be possible because of SID's 3channels?

And you are coming to my early question...

Would A8 get the 4channels and 4notes? Is this really need/possible?

 

Watch this GH3 video and all them, lots of at the same time on 1:12 and you'll get Nuts:

 

This isn't for us, even for C64