Ikrananka Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 WOW Winning bid of $1083.00 for a WizMath CIB!!! I guess at that price, we just may see more come up for auction. I've spent some serious cash to acquire certain items over the last couple years, but there is no way I'd be willing to go this high even if it was the last CIB that I needed to complete my collection. Great call on this one J-F. Well I wonder if this is a self fulfilling prophecy. J-F predicts a final price of around $1,000 and it happens. Now, if J-F had predicted a final price of say $500 would that have put bidders off going higher and then perhaps it would have sold for the lower predicted price. We all know value is in the eye of the beholder, but often we place great stock in the predictions of others and use that as a measure of value and, I believe, it can dictate our willingness to bid higher than that predicted because we then believe we are paying more than it is worth. Just a thought and absolutely no criticism of J-F and others who suggest final prices. And no, it wasn't me who bought the WizMath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 There is more and more people who start collecting CV Even if we loose some of the best CV collectors ou there, there is always new people start collecting for the CV I follow CV prices since 2000 , and I must admit that prices changed over the last decade Nobody complained back then when they had to pay $70 for Cabbage Patch Kids, ... Or about the same for Tarzan You had to pay about $80 for Congo Bongo Since then, some resellers magically found some NOS of games ... Thinking about Ozma and the guy in Venezuela That made prices falling for some of the games Now, in a decade, I've seen about 7 WizMath .... Maybe 5 Sammy Lightfoot THOSE GAMES ARE RARE TO DEATH! Since there is more people wanting to complete their collection, It's no surprises that you see WizMath going for 1K I too would like to pay half of this for a game like this, but you also have to think about the scarcity In fact, WizMath is pretty scarce, as well as Sammy Lightfoot Maybe I motivate someone to pay 1K for WizMath, but I have no regret Finally, CV deserve something like this The CV is probably the only system where I see CIB games (almost 50% of the whole set) going for super cheap when you see alot more common games on other systems going for much more Even if I said WizMath is worth 1K , that doesn't mean you could not get it for ALOT cheaper But at least, WizMath is worth THAT MUCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikrananka Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Well I'm just pleased that I decided to not collect the Educational CV titles and so wasn't tempted to join the bidding. I'm also glad that I bought a NOS Sammy Lightfoot years ago for a very reasonable price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Even if I said WizMath is worth 1K , that doesn't mean you could not get it for ALOT cheaper But at least, WizMath is worth THAT MUCH And let's not forget the Xonox double-enders. I believe I'm seen a boxed "Robin Hood / Sir Lancelot" on eBay only once in my life, and I can't remember the last time I saw a boxed "Motocross Racer / Tomarc the Barbarian". Now that's rare. Boxed copies of "Artillery Duel / Chuck Norris" are far more common, by comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Well I'm just pleased that I decided to not collect the Educational CV titles and so wasn't tempted to join the bidding. I'm also glad that I bought a NOS Sammy Lightfoot years ago for a very reasonable price And in the last 3 years, I saw more WizMath than Sammy Lightfoot It goes without saying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 And let's not forget the Xonox double-enders. I believe I'm seen a boxed "Robin Hood / Sir Lancelot" on eBay only once in my life, and I can't remember the last time I saw a boxed "Motocross Racer / Tomarc the Barbarian". Now that's rare. Boxed copies of "Artillery Duel / Chuck Norris" are far more common, by comparison. Oh sure, the double ender are rarer than WizMath or Sammy Lightfoot Having the matching manuals is really though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 And I have seen ALOT more Nintendo World Championship than any of those rare mentioned CV titles .... Yeah, I know....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubby856 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Does anyone have any loose Wizmath?? I also need these loose: Amazing Bumpman Aquattack Boulder Dash Kung Fu Telegames Motorcross Telegames Skiing(If it exists) Super Sketch Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I'm disappointed, the Super Sketch for Colecovision reached "only" $961 USD http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574883395&toolid=10001&campid=5336500554&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FColecovision-Super-Sketch-BRAND-NEW-IN-BOX-With-All-Papers-Packing-Etc-%2F200964105363%3FssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A3160%26autorefresh%3Dtrue Amazingly 122 dollars less than Wizmath This means we can move Super Sketch to R8 and Wizmath to R9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I'm disappointed, the Super Sketch for Colecovision reached "only" $961 USD http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574883395&toolid=10001&campid=5336500554&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FColecovision-Super-Sketch-BRAND-NEW-IN-BOX-With-All-Papers-Packing-Etc-%2F200964105363%3FssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A3160%26autorefresh%3Dtrue Amazingly 122 dollars less than Wizmath This means we can move Super Sketch to R8 and Wizmath to R9? Either way, you got yourself two very happy sellers and probably a bunch of people considering selling their's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpel Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Nice Sunday pick up. Sadly, most of the games are not complete : instructions are missing for a lot of CV games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sega_SHARK Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Is this for real? I thought Atarisoft only released four games for CV. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574883395&toolid=10001&campid=5336500554&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FColecovision-PAC-MAN-Atarisoft-%2F221288828706%3Fpt%3DVideo_Games_Games%26hash%3Ditem3385d78f22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Is this for real? I thought Atarisoft only released four games for CV. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574883395&toolid=10001&campid=5336500554&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FColecovision-PAC-MAN-Atarisoft-%2F221288828706%3Fpt%3DVideo_Games_Games%26hash%3Ditem3385d78f22 It's a reproduction. I've even made some of those carts. I should make some more. Would be glad to make one for much less than that. There are a few other Atarisoft repros I can make as well, although I don't recall which ones at the moment. Edit: And one way to spot these reproductions is they use regular ColecoVision carts, as opposed to the carts Atarisoft used for the ColecoVision (two separate labels, as opposed to a wraparound label). ..Al 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sega_SHARK Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Orange boxed release of Joust with sound for CV? I know, I'm dreaming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikrananka Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It's a reproduction. I've even made some of those carts. I should make some more. Would be glad to make one for much less than that. There are a few other Atarisoft repros I can make as well, although I don't recall which ones at the moment. Edit: And one way to spot these reproductions is they use regular ColecoVision carts, as opposed to the carts Atarisoft used for the ColecoVision (two separate labels, as opposed to a wraparound label). ..Al I managed to pick up the last of your repro Joust, Dig-Dug and Pac-Man carts when you made them years ago. Unfortunately you'd sold out of Moon Patrol so would still dearly like to buy one of those to complete my set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Orange boxed release of Joust with sound for CV? I know, I'm dreaming... The complete/prototype version of Joust with sound has been found along with some other AtariSoft goodies, but nothing has been decided as far as release either on Cart, CIB or just the rom. That's about all I can say, but hopefully something will be decided soon. Marc Oberhauser still sells the AtariSoft style boxes for Pac-Man, Joust, Dig Dug and Moon Patrol... just an FYI for those that need a box for their loose carts. @Albert... I'm in the same boat as Ikrananka and would love to purchase a Moon Patrol cart from you with the AtariSoft style, but 1-piece, label. There is even a better version of the rom with restored title screen graphics that was shared a couple of months ago on here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 The complete/prototype version of Joust with sound has been found along with some other AtariSoft goodies, but nothing has been decided as far as release either on Cart, CIB or just the rom. That's about all I can say, but hopefully something will be decided soon. Let me clarify that for you: I abandoned the idea of adding sound to the Joust prototype long ago. I'm hoping someone else will tackle it, but it won't be me, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Let me clarify that for you: I abandoned the idea of adding sound to the Joust prototype long ago. I'm hoping someone else will tackle it, but it won't be me, that's for sure. Did someone ever get the source code for the sounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Did someone ever get the source code for the sounds? Not to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Not to my knowledge. Then I doubt we will ever get Joust with all sounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoDan Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It sounds like NIAD has secrets. Time to go to his house and confiscate the goodies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztee Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 PAL ADAM up on UK eBay site. Currently leading the bidding. Is it worth that much?? http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574883395&toolid=10001&campid=5336500554&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2F231060357214 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Let me clarify that for you: I abandoned the idea of adding sound to the Joust prototype long ago. I'm hoping someone else will tackle it, but it won't be me, that's for sure. It sounds like NIAD has secrets. Time to go to his house and confiscate the goodies. Yes, I know that the attempt to have NewColeco add his own renditions of sound effects and music to the existing no sound Joust rom file did not come to fruition. The one that I mentioned above is a new rom file that was acquired from a former Atari employee and is in the hands of a prominent retro videogamer... this one has all the original sound effects and music. Secrets yes, but unfortunately I do not have the complete Joust rom file. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Well, here is how the CV prototypes vault goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Well, here is how the CV prototypes vault goes. Fortunately this one is in the hands of someone that has made other prototype/unreleased games available in the past and does want to do something with them. If I don't hear anything in the coming months, I will make an offer that can't be refused. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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