HkryCrkStudio Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Ok, one thing that has intrigued me since I joined the CV community is the sort of "sub culture" where once in a while a "prototype" of a homebrew is released into the market on purpose by the homebrewer with the idea that it will become not only an instant collectible, but also will immediately appreciate in value by a factor of, in this case, around 20,000%. I wish this was realistic but unfortunately it's not. Historically, prototypes are generally not released into the public for the sole purpose of creating collectibility, they are more often than not leaked into the market by accident, their value coming mostly from the fact that they were likely meant to be destroyed. I can't think of any ColecoVision prototypes from the 80's that were released with the intention of creating a collectible. Heck, even a few of the released cartridges were never intended to be mass produced (i.e. CAT SOS). The release of homebrew prototypes for this purpose creates a false demand and seriously reduces the chances that these items will be of as much value 20 or 30 years from now. Edit: I say all this as an owner of one such prototype But then again, I didn't pay $10K for it. Edited March 23, 2015 by HkryCrkStudio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbai Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Ok, one thing that has intrigued me since I joined the CV community is the sort of "sub culture" where once in a while a "prototype" of a homebrew is released into the market on purpose by the homebrewer with the idea that it will become not only an instant collectible, but also will immediately appreciate in value by a factor of, in this case, around 20,000%. I'm pretty sure this marketed prototyping was begun as a means to fund future development efforts, then spun out from there into something quite odd, economically speaking. EDIT: On second thought, I should just keep my opinions to myself about such things. Redact! Redact! Redact! Edited March 23, 2015 by mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Unit Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Without these things being physically numbered (stamped onto the cart), there's no telling just how many homebrews are actually manufactured beyond what runs the developers claim. Personally I don't care about collectible monetary value of homebrews as these are meant to be made to enjoy by the retro gaming community and should have open-ended unlimited availability or made-on-demand. Unfortunately, like with everything else considered "collectible" (comic books, baseball cards, toys, etc.) you get people who try to capitalize off of something considered to be "rare" and artificially ascribe a monetary value to it with the intention of creating a demand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkerieSilk Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Was this the solid gold diamond studded prototype? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HkryCrkStudio Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'm pretty sure this marketed prototyping was begun as a means to fund future development efforts, then spun out from there into something quite odd, economically speaking. Absolutely - actually I apologize for implying that the homebrewers were doing the outrageous markups and that's not the case at all, it happens after the prototypes enter the market. It's an excellent way for the developers to raise funds, albeit in a limited way. But I much prefer the way John Lester did it with Gamester81 The Video Game. He went through Indiegogo and offered several different carts and products, some of them autographed. I thought that was a brilliant way to fund his project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 To my knowledge the rom file for the 32k Prototype is not available, and there is no plans of releasing it. JF would know for sure as far as releasing the rom and if it ever will be released. The rom file that is available is from the retail version of Mario Bros. You can see the differences in this You Tube video: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/148178-mario-bros-colecovision-ready-to-ship/page-2 Post #31 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelliK111 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/148178-mario-bros-colecovision-ready-to-ship/page-2 Post #31 Ok your right Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Ok your right Jim It's not about being right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkerieSilk Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Absolutely - actually I apologize for implying that the homebrewers were doing the outrageous markups and that's not the case at all, it happens after the prototypes enter the market. It's an excellent way for the developers to raise funds, albeit in a limited way. But I much prefer the way John Lester did it with Gamester81 The Video Game. He went through Indiegogo and offered several different carts and products, some of them autographed. I thought that was a brilliant way to fund his project. He actually offered a personalized voice over on the limited release versions, which was really unique and cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkerieSilk Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 It's not about being right. No it is, and yes it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Lot of 97 Colecovision cartridges, first time ever I've seen small Colecovision cartridges http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-97-ColecoVision-and-ADAM-games-Rare-Games-included-/221726547851?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339fee9f8b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Unit Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Damn sold for $250! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Damn sold for $250! It says "ended by seller because of errors in listing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleconut Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) You need Expansion module 6 to play half of them. Edited March 28, 2015 by coleconut 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Yurkie Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Guys if you collect CIB ColecoVision games don't miss out on this Gem! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-FRENZY-Coleco-Vision-and-Adam-NOS-Factory-Sealed-Vintage-/281644319850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41934f446a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleconut Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Guys if you collect CIB ColecoVision games don't miss out on this Gem! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-FRENZY-Coleco-Vision-and-Adam-NOS-Factory-Sealed-Vintage-/281644319850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41934f446a Ooo a little over the top but wait, its the Global Shipping Program. Pass.... (The Ebay Canada user forum on the topic of I hate the Global Shipping Program is 215 pages long. Anybody listening at Ebay? Didnt think so.) Edited March 28, 2015 by coleconut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Unit Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Box isn't in great condition. Don't care how rare it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwackery Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Box isn't in great condition. Don't care how rare it is. I believe it's more about the claim that it is NOS and clearly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy_Whelan Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 LOL - NOS and Factory Sealed; neither is true and there isn't any manual either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Unit Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I believe it's more about the claim that it is NOS and clearly not. I need NOS... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkerieSilk Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 To my knowledge the rom file for the 32k Prototype is not available, and there is no plans of releasing it. JF would know for sure as far as releasing the rom and if it ever will be released. The rom file that is available is from the retail version of Mario Bros. You can see the differences in this You Tube video: The important point here is that Colecovision AND Beer are priceless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I didn't notice that RelliK thinks the prototype cart is the only way to play the game. The prototype ROM was released here on AtariAge, for everyone to enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleconut Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Gee do ya think s***l with his 27 bids on 17 items by the same seller is maybe a shill? eBay Auction -- Item Number: 151630612585 Edited April 6, 2015 by coleconut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkerieSilk Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 eBay Auction -- Item Number: 321718071851Was this the real deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLic0ne t0aD Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Looks legit to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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