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Please, what's a lab loaner? And what's a prototype then and/or the difference between the two?

A Lab Loaner is most likely to be the complete/finished version of a game that was shared with outside companies for the purpose of review. Most would have been shared with magazines for the purpose of having written and published to hopefully coincide with the release of the game. They were to be returned to the company that produced the game, but I would venture a guess that most were not returned and then forgotten, by both parties.

 

A prototype would be an in-develop game. Could be anything from the very first functional version of the game all the way up to the completed version that would be ready for beta testing.

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I did not realize that Coleco released software for both the ATARI and Commodore 64 computers on a two sided 5.25 inch disk (Flippy floppy with one side for ATARI computers and the other side for Commodore 64 computers).

 

Here is a EBAY auction for the game Wargames. What other software was released for the ATARI computers and Commodore 64 computers by Coleco?

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-64-128-Computer-1984-WAR-GAMES-by-Coleco-SEALED/132716023139?hash=item1ee67dcd63%3Ag%3AySMAAOSwVEdbT9Hs&_sacat=0&_nkw=COLECO+COMMODORE&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313

WarGames was the only one.

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Forget about the crazy price, is this item real or fake? Did this originally come in a jewel case with a cart made in Germany? Frontline for SCE

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Line-Standard-Controller-Edition-SCE-ColecoVision-Homebrew-Pixelboy/292671786908?hash=item4424990f9c%3Ag%3AMqQAAOSwD9dbafpT&_sop=16&_sacat=0&_nkw=colecovision&_from=R40&rt=nc

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Forget about the crazy price, is this item real or fake? Did this originally come in a jewel case with a cart made in Germany? Frontline for SCE

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Line-Standard-Controller-Edition-SCE-ColecoVision-Homebrew-Pixelboy/292671786908?hash=item4424990f9c%3Ag%3AMqQAAOSwD9dbafpT&_sop=16&_sacat=0&_nkw=colecovision&_from=R40&rt=nc

Yes, it's legit. Check out the packaging picture of this game on teampixelboy.com for confirmation.

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Yes, it's legit. Check out the packaging picture of this game on teampixelboy.com for confirmation.

Okay thanks. I wasnt around until long after this was released. Ive amassed 57 ColecoVision home brews in the last two years, though.

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Ebay has a 15% off everything coupon good for today only.... if anyones looking for a particular item, the coupon code is:

 

PRONTO15

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Yup, $60 buy my math. It sold already, hope the buyer knew about the coupon.

It's something that hacks are up there with original and recreated arcade homebrew games, although this hack comes with overlays.

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15% Ebay coupon off EVERYTHING is a great coupon but if I'm correct the seller gets full price for the game and Ebay eats the 15% which in this case would be $60. So the buyer wins by getting a nice discount and the seller wins by getting his asking price

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15% Ebay coupon off EVERYTHING is a great coupon but if I'm correct the seller gets full price for the game and Ebay eats the 15% which in this case would be $60. So the buyer wins by getting a nice discount and the seller wins by getting his asking price

Don't forget with the 5% PAYPAL fees on top of the 15% EBAY fees the seller is paying around 20% in combined commission fees. Amazon many times is worse charging up to around 20%-25% depending on the category. I can see why some people try and sale things on their own personal website since then they are only paying around 5% in PAYPAL fees.

 

So slow times of the year EBAY well offer a 10%, 15%. or even sometimes a 20% off coupon. Many people do not use the coupon and the coupon is only good for a day or a few days. If the coupons cut to much into EBAY's profits they well stop offering them. Amazon never offers coupons so from a buyers point of view the coupons on EBAY are nice to have for some rare things offered on EBAY. However most the time the coupons are not good for everything and are only good when purchasing from select dealers in certain categories.

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Don't forget with the 5% PAYPAL fees on top of the 15% EBAY fees the seller is paying around 20% in combined commission fees. Amazon many times is worse charging up to around 20%-25% depending on the category. I can see why some people try and sale things on their own personal website since then they are only paying around 5% in PAYPAL fees.

 

So slow times of the year EBAY well offer a 10%, 15%. or even sometimes a 20% off coupon. Many people do not use the coupon and the coupon is only good for a day or a few days. If the coupons cut to much into EBAY's profits they well stop offering them. Amazon never offers coupons so from a buyers point of view the coupons on EBAY are nice to have for some rare things offered on EBAY. However most the time the coupons are not good for everything and are only good when purchasing from select dealers in certain categories.

 

Yep I hate PayPal and refuse to use it. No protection whatsoever for the buyer either.

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That cart is near mint - easily 5/7!

 

Seriously though, people are dumb.

Not quite as dumb as you may think. It all comes down to search engine results. If some people are looking for games in "near mint" state, there's a good chance they will literally use "near mint" as their search criteria, and so you include such words as "near mint" in your auction description to encourage search engine hits. But then you're entering the field of the "one-fish" principle, which is the aspect that's actually the dumb part.

 

The "one-fish" principle is the concept that's like a lake where there's a single big fish you absolutely want to catch. Whatever else is in the lake (smaller fish) is just not interesting to you, you want the big one, but you know that your lure is less than interesting, and you don't want to wait around forever, so you put all kinds of reflective junk on your line to try to get the big fish's attention, and you deploy a lot of effort (rowing your boat around the lake) to try to get closer to the physical location of the big fish (even though you never see where it actually is, so it's all based on hope) and improve your odds of catching it. And all this time, what keeps you motivated is the idea that's you'll be able to brag about how you caught the biggest fish in the lake, and how delicious this big fish will be once it's been cooked and served on a plate.

 

And this is a dumb mentality because:

 

a) The odds that the biggest fish in the lake will bite your crappy lure is extremely low.

b) The big fish may not even be hungry at the time you're casting your line.

c) The big fish is NOT going to taste better than the smaller fish in the lake, once it's served on your plate.

d) Whatever size of fish is found in a lake is usually only big enough for one meal, even the biggest one, so if you do manage to catch that one big fish you're after, it's only going to feed you for one day, so you'll have expended tons of effort for just one diner.

e) You can only brag about catching the big fish once, maybe take a picture of it for posterity. But really, one week later everyone around you will have mostly forgotten about your big catch (including you, most likely) so it's all short-term gratification.

 

The common-sense fisherman will understand that a crappy lure is probably not going to get him the biggest fish, and if he does catch something small, he will eat it along with veggies and other stuff, and at the end of the day, he will be satisfied.

 

When you think about it, the "one-fish" principle explains the behavior of people who spend their days (and money) in casinos playing slot machines. Gotta beat the odds and catch that big jackpot, no matter how long it takes. :)

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And that was without a doubt the longest FISH STORY that I have ever read or heard by way of mouth! Oddly enough, with this one, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

 

Thanks Pixelboy.

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And that was without a doubt the longest FISH STORY that I have ever read or heard by way of mouth! Oddly enough, with this one, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

 

Thanks Pixelboy.

You're welcome. I spent a few days at a cabin up north recently, so I was inspired. :)

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That is interesting - I saw a DK cart sell the other week, for around £12 I think, despite there being one in better condition and with the manual for a pound less. I guess the seller got lucky with his big fish.

 

Also reminds me of this listing, which has been on sale literally years now

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F351385505055

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Not quite as dumb as you may think. It all comes down to search engine results. If some people are looking for games in "near mint" state, there's a good chance they will literally use "near mint" as their search criteria, and so you include such words as "near mint" in your auction description to encourage search engine hits. But then you're entering the field of the "one-fish" principle, which is the aspect that's actually the dumb part.

 

The "one-fish" principle is the concept that's like a lake where there's a single big fish you absolutely want to catch. Whatever else is in the lake (smaller fish) is just not interesting to you, you want the big one, but you know that your lure is less than interesting, and you don't want to wait around forever, so you put all kinds of reflective junk on your line to try to get the big fish's attention, and you deploy a lot of effort (rowing your boat around the lake) to try to get closer to the physical location of the big fish (even though you never see where it actually is, so it's all based on hope) and improve your odds of catching it. And all this time, what keeps you motivated is the idea that's you'll be able to brag about how you caught the biggest fish in the lake, and how delicious this big fish will be once it's been cooked and served on a plate.

 

And this is a dumb mentality because:

 

a) The odds that the biggest fish in the lake will bite your crappy lure is extremely low.

b) The big fish may not even be hungry at the time you're casting your line.

c) The big fish is NOT going to taste better than the smaller fish in the lake, once it's served on your plate.

d) Whatever size of fish is found in a lake is usually only big enough for one meal, even the biggest one, so if you do manage to catch that one big fish you're after, it's only going to feed you for one day, so you'll have expended tons of effort for just one diner.

e) You can only brag about catching the big fish once, maybe take a picture of it for posterity. But really, one week later everyone around you will have mostly forgotten about your big catch (including you, most likely) so it's all short-term gratification.

 

The common-sense fisherman will understand that a crappy lure is probably not going to get him the biggest fish, and if he does catch something small, he will eat it along with veggies and other stuff, and at the end of the day, he will be satisfied.

 

When you think about it, the "one-fish" principle explains the behavior of people who spend their days (and money) in casinos playing slot machines. Gotta beat the odds and catch that big jackpot, no matter how long it takes. :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=h7hUEHHk0Dg

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