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José Pereira

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As one of the elders in the group (50) I have a wide span of years, I liked the 70's, it was raw living, no special high tech treats, you made your own fun and games and unlike today it was all inside the law. The idea of mugging someone, throwing your wrappers of sweets on the ground, spitting everywhere simply didn't exist in your mind.

 

Now the eighties were my insight into everything electronic, I was working and I had spare cash, all those lovely trinkets I'd seen in Hi Fi shops were now almost in my grasp, and then the computers had hit and I was suddenly well into them. For that reason and me getting married the eighties were a special set of years.

 

Sadly the eighties were also the start of an awful downturn in society, for me it was the start of 'anything goes', people will say the 60's were out of control but even in that time there was a level you didn't cross, whereas the 80's seemed to be the start of the thug era for me...

 

Some of my favourite music and films are from the late 70's and early 80's, films used 'practical' effects which worked, look at Jaws, its a rubber mechanical shark but it looked great, the remake that's coming will be all cgi but I bet it won't look as real.

 

That's why I used the term 'raw', it was all real and creative at those times, now its all fake in every way possible.....

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I think that the whole reason that a lot of us are members of this site is down to 80s nostalgia.

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The one thing which I never reminisce over is the loading process. My avatar shows what I hated seeing. And some games (especially 'Mad Jax') used to give me load error problems all the time.

hahaha, fact of the matter is that I would have lived a life devoted to pursuing Fine Art, had it not been for my childhood experiences of trying to understand just exactly what a "Serial Bus Data-Frame Checksum Error" was. lol.

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I think the 80s was pretty faked too - but it was all fake in an ingenious, mechanical way that took a lot of creativity rather than throwing it all through 3D studio max and photoshop.

 

Someone I know told me that they visited the sets of Return of the Jedi in the 80s and that there were armies of carpenters building everything around them and crafting things and to be honest it made me feel a little sad thinking that if I did the same for an equivalent film today all I'd see was a hanging sheet of green material.

 

That said I did cycle past Hogwarts a few times on the way to work, which was surreal...

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I am overflowing with 80's nostalgia... but I can't understand a thing you write. Sorry!

 

I get the general idea of the sentiment. I feel that my life was much better in the 80's even though and probably actually because I was a teenager in that time period. There are parts of that decade that I wouldn't want to experience again, but I think the 21st century so far, can't hold a candle to the 1980s.

 

I will admit that this could be because I was younger and less cynical back then.

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I grew up in the 80ies, and it's really the nostalgia-period for me (of course).

 

One of the best tunes of this time, I think, is "feels like heaven" (fiction factory):

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHG337phTM

 

...just because to my opinion it expresses very clearly the 80ies spirit.

 

 

But, one of the best hardrock tunes of all times, I'd like to say, is "larks' tongues in aspic part 4" (king crimson):

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCySCpszKv4

 

(this band is already active from the end of the 60ies, but this tune they made in 2000).

 

By the way, there was this creepy discussion about this tune, when the world trade center got bombed down by O.B.L. in 2001, and at the end of this tune ("Coda: I have a dream") you can clearly hear that WTC is mentioned. (but I suppose another terroristic action was mentioned there)

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I really really miss the 80s, I was in good health, had a good job, good money and no responsibility. I know that I can never go back, but it is nice to remember and let some distractions like Atari, 80s music and my cal look beetle forget the now.

 

" Once we get out of the 80's the 90's are gonna make the 60's look like the 50's"

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Do you all think that we all are out of this 21st century World?

 

Do you think that 80's was that, was the Time that never will came up again...

Do you think that we are different from others and that we was a time that will never happens again?

 

This is because today I know a guy from 80's/90's Amiga... And was the first I known for Years...

Today Windows buil all the stuff and kids just play but they don't know nothing about computers, even with compuetrs at school.

 

I am from the time that in school we learn to 'key' a Type Writer with the 'Keyboard ASDQ'.

 

 

Do you think that all of ours computers A8, Zxs, C64, CPC,.. learn or turn us like we are now?

 

 

Thank God for Google Translate :)

 

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For years, I've been trying to pinpoint exactly when things started to suck. (culture, movies, TV, styles, computers, etc.)

 

I used to think it was definitely late 1985, but now I think it wasn't such a clear cutoff. I think the very beginning was 1983, but there was a delay between initial... uh... "crapitude"... and when the effects of it were felt universally. (in North America - I know it was different elsewhere)

 

So, that was the beginning but I think two things in the late 80's led to the 90's being utter crap:

 

1) The stock market crash in 1987 (effects felt 88-91). This caused companies to do deep cost-cutting - the beginning of products designed for extreme cheapness, not to last. This also led to budget cuts, increased taxes, the death of good public television.

 

2) The rise of Rap - "gangsta rappers" bragging about busting caps in cops' asses and the number of hos they have. You can see a clear correlation between Rap music and the degrading of society. (not to mention that damn thumping deep bass you can't escape these days)

 

There are many other things of course, like the rise of cable channels & deregulation of commercial television (allowing infomercials and drastically increased number of commercials), the rise of moronic "action-hero" movies and endless sequels.

 

 

So, I now think 1983 was the end - and it was really a continuation of the late 70's, in style and feel. You could say, the 80's only started in 1984. It's the 70's - and transition to the 80's - that was the last "good" time period.

 

Still, the difference between the 80's and 90's is nothing compared to the crap we have now. What a weird, freakish world we live in now - where you have to be seen naked at the airport and have someone touching your genitals just to get on a frigging plane! If somebody told me in 1987 that 2011 would be like that, I wouldn't believe them. The world is becoming even more evil and controlled than I ever imagined.

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The world is becoming even more evil and controlled than I ever imagined.

 

If technology is created which can monitor/control something, it will be used. They'll find a single case where the use of such technology would have prevented something bad happening and then apply the use of the technology across the board. They tend to forget that the use of the technology each and every time adds up to more of a problem than the initial problem.

 

It's similar in the UK with people having police checks for absolutely everything. As expected, people no longer bother giving their time to good causes because they don't want to go through all the checks. So now the children have no groups to go to, they cause more violence and disorder and end up in lives of crime. Has this really protected children?

 

In essence, in the UK at least, I'd bring back any time prior to 1997. Maybe I'm biased though, I used to be a politician.

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Do you all think that we all are out of this 21st century World?

 

Do you think that 80's was that, was the Time that never will came up again...

Do you think that we are different from others and that we was a time that will never happens again?

 

This is because today I know a guy from 80's/90's Amiga... And was the first I known for Years...

Today Windows buil all the stuff and kids just play but they don't know nothing about computers, even with compuetrs at school.

 

I am from the time that in school we learn to 'key' a Type Writer with the 'Keyboard ASDQ'.

 

 

Do you think that all of ours computers A8, Zxs, C64, CPC,.. learn or turn us like we are now?

 

 

Thank God for Google Translate :)

 

KU2st.jpg

How about he just switches to Portuguese so Portuguese speakers get a a full idea what he means and Spanish speakers get about 95% of it? :)

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Do you all think that we all are out of this 21st century World?

 

Do you think that 80's was that, was the Time that never will came up again...

Do you think that we are different from others and that we was a time that will never happens again?

 

This is because today I know a guy from 80's/90's Amiga... And was the first I known for Years...

Today Windows buil all the stuff and kids just play but they don't know nothing about computers, even with compuetrs at school.

 

I am from the time that in school we learn to 'key' a Type Writer with the 'Keyboard ASDQ'.

 

 

Do you think that all of ours computers A8, Zxs, C64, CPC,.. learn or turn us like we are now?

 

 

Thank God for Google Translate :)

 

KU2st.jpg

How about he just switches to Portuguese so Portuguese speakers get a a full idea what he means and Spanish speakers get about 95% of it? :)

 

There's only two portuguese here and an english guy that seems to know spanish because of some obvious reasons :)

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I really really miss the 80s, I was in good health, had a good job, good money and no responsibility. I know that I can never go back, but it is nice to remember and let some distractions like Atari, 80s music and my cal look beetle forget the now.

 

" Once we get out of the 80's the 90's are gonna make the 60's look like the 50's"

 

I've got a '58 Bug that makes the 50's look like the 40's.

 

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(picture scanned using Amiga 500)

 

 

There's only two portuguese here and an english guy that seems to know spanish because of some obvious reasons :)

 

"Obvious reasons"? So he can understand Spanish porn, right? ;)

 

That's another thing - porn was so much nicer in the 70's and 80's. (although a lot hairier)

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To some degree it's coming back full circle. The 80's is often derided as a decade with crap music. Well, the nineties were worse and as for now? Slightly better so it's on a par with the 80's again. ;)

 

Then you have computing. In the 80's computers like the Atari 800 would have been two months' wages for my parents. Now, they can buy themselves a 27" iMac in the same time - and they're both just 2 years away from retirement.

 

Although schools tend not to teach the fundamentals of programming anymore, I was surprised when my 14 year old daughter got her options list for this year because they do more with computers, such as design and even 3D modelling. I would have loved to have been able to do that in school. In fact, although I took computer science as an option I wasn't allowed to take it because there were very limited spaces and I wasn't in the top group in Maths. I doubt that any of those who took CS in school when I was there took it up as a career.

 

But just watch the number of college courses on programming and game development rocket over the next couple of years. Game development has become relatively simple again. The games don't really have the same charm as the blocky graphics we used to have, but players are snapping up mobile and casual games in their thousands. You think Modern Warfare is a money spinner? How about Minecraft or Angry Birds? They are the Manic Miners of today - games that are written in the bedroom or by a small operation.

 

I love the 80's and 80's games ... they are my inspiration for my own modern projects. ;-)

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For years, I've been trying to pinpoint exactly when things started to suck. (culture, movies, TV, styles, computers, etc.)

 

I used to think it was definitely late 1985, but now I think it wasn't such a clear cutoff. I think the very beginning was 1983, but there was a delay between initial... uh... "crapitude"... and when the effects of it were felt universally. (in North America - I know it was different elsewhere)

 

So, that was the beginning but I think two things in the late 80's led to the 90's being utter crap:

 

1) The stock market crash in 1987 (effects felt 88-91). This caused companies to do deep cost-cutting - the beginning of products designed for extreme cheapness, not to last. This also led to budget cuts, increased taxes, the death of good public television.

 

2) The rise of Rap - "gangsta rappers" bragging about busting caps in cops' asses and the number of hos they have. You can see a clear correlation between Rap music and the degrading of society. (not to mention that damn thumping deep bass you can't escape these days)

 

There are many other things of course, like the rise of cable channels & deregulation of commercial television (allowing infomercials and drastically increased number of commercials), the rise of moronic "action-hero" movies and endless sequels.

 

 

So, I now think 1983 was the end - and it was really a continuation of the late 70's, in style and feel. You could say, the 80's only started in 1984. It's the 70's - and transition to the 80's - that was the last "good" time period.

 

Still, the difference between the 80's and 90's is nothing compared to the crap we have now. What a weird, freakish world we live in now - where you have to be seen naked at the airport and have someone touching your genitals just to get on a frigging plane! If somebody told me in 1987 that 2011 would be like that, I wouldn't believe them. The world is becoming even more evil and controlled than I ever imagined.

Well Said!

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2) The rise of Rap - "gangsta rappers" bragging about busting caps in cops' asses and the number of hos they have. You can see a clear correlation between Rap music and the degrading of society. (not to mention that damn thumping deep bass you can't escape these days)

 

 

Because , You're mentíoning the "society".

Particular with RAP music, it has to be cleared out, that "Music" is a result of what the society likes, not vice versa.

If you know that, just try to think of "why do they like it that much", and "why didn't people like it before".

 

 

There are many other things of course, like the rise of cable channels & deregulation of commercial television (allowing infomercials and drastically increased number of commercials), the rise of moronic "action-hero" movies and endless sequels.

 

You have two choices.

1. ignore it

2. accept it

 

Then it's up to you, to get into it or still watch the situation.

 

My most concernes belong to such "social networks" , so I never logged on to those. But, I can imagine, why people get into there. Most of them want to be social integrated, but they even don't mind to help the Old woman in the neighbourhood.

 

 

So, I now think 1983 was the end - and it was really a continuation of the late 70's, in style and feel. You could say, the 80's only started in 1984. It's the 70's - and transition to the 80's - that was the last "good" time period.

 

Still, the difference between the 80's and 90's is nothing compared to the crap we have now. What a weird, freakish world we live in now - where you have to be seen naked at the airport and have someone touching your genitals just to get on a frigging plane! If somebody told me in 1987 that 2011 would be like that, I wouldn't believe them. The world is becoming even more evil and controlled than I ever imagined.

 

Those thoughts are more intens , if you know why. Jesus Christus told before he was dying " Vater, vergib ihnen. Denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun" . But today they know what they do....

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Thanks for posting the "Dog Days are Over" video. I was looking for that.

 

As for early 1980s nostalgia(shouldn't this be in General Chat?) I eat, sleep & breathe it non-stop. My iPod is 99% music from 1980-1983 and actively seek out movies/tv/nostalgia in general from that time period. It is my crack.

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For years, I've been trying to pinpoint exactly when things started to suck. (culture, movies, TV, styles, computers, etc.)

 

I used to think it was definitely late 1985, but now I think it wasn't such a clear cutoff. I think the very beginning was 1983, but there was a delay between initial... uh... "crapitude"... and when the effects of it were felt universally. (in North America - I know it was different elsewhere)

 

So, that was the beginning but I think two things in the late 80's led to the 90's being utter crap:

 

1) The stock market crash in 1987 (effects felt 88-91). This caused companies to do deep cost-cutting - the beginning of products designed for extreme cheapness, not to last. This also led to budget cuts, increased taxes, the death of good public television.

 

2) The rise of Rap - "gangsta rappers" bragging about busting caps in cops' asses and the number of hos they have. You can see a clear correlation between Rap music and the degrading of society. (not to mention that damn thumping deep bass you can't escape these days)

 

There are many other things of course, like the rise of cable channels & deregulation of commercial television (allowing infomercials and drastically increased number of commercials), the rise of moronic "action-hero" movies and endless sequels.

 

 

So, I now think 1983 was the end - and it was really a continuation of the late 70's, in style and feel. You could say, the 80's only started in 1984. It's the 70's - and transition to the 80's - that was the last "good" time period.

 

Still, the difference between the 80's and 90's is nothing compared to the crap we have now. What a weird, freakish world we live in now - where you have to be seen naked at the airport and have someone touching your genitals just to get on a frigging plane! If somebody told me in 1987 that 2011 would be like that, I wouldn't believe them. The world is becoming even more evil and controlled than I ever imagined.

Well Said!

 

I second that! I am in complete agreement with everything you said (especially point 2) except the part about action hero movies and sequels. Some of those are actually watchable, in my humble opinion. :)

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I second that! I am in complete agreement with everything you said (especially point 2) except the part about action hero movies and sequels. Some of those are actually watchable, in my humble opinion. :)

 

Well, yeah, some are watchable - especially compared to many movies these days. I guess I could skip that point.

 

What I can't stand about modern movies (2000-present) is the hyper-fast edits, drunken camerawork and "speed up and slow down" bits all over the place. They just slam an image in your face for half a second, rip it away, do a speed up & slow down bit, rip that away and slam something else there. You don't have a chance to actually look at something and you don't have the time to look at different spots within the image. Images are crammed in your face like meat into a sausage grinder.

 

I remember in 1981 watching a documentary about the new "Steadicam", invented for the movie, "The Shining" - made to do super-smooth camera movements. I thought it was awesome. Who knew that 20 years later, camera operators would be deliberately shaking the camera all over the damn place like a drunk with a palsy problem.

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Well hate me if you want to but because of the Amiga 1000 landing slap bang in the mid 80s NOTHING will ever compare to that machine and hence the revolutionary atmosphere of those times. In some ways the awesomeness of enjoying years of 2600 and then C64 games.....what a decade!

 

Women looked like crap though, like painted Halloween dolls with army haircuts....luckily for most of the 80s sex was illegal for me! heh

 

Good films can be found from the 50s to today, and there was as much rubbish music at end of 80s as today, only early 80s was good.

 

Some of it also relates to youth and health. But I never cared for Wintel/Apple/Sony/Sega/Nintendo/M$ products....only C= and Atari....both born and arose to mega corporations by early 80s.

 

Oh and early arcade games up to 16bit and of course arcade culture!

 

So yes 80s are cool for many reasons but for me that is mainly down to the 1985 baby of J. Miner/D. Needle/RJ Mical. If I didn't know better I would swear they stole that custom chipset and OS from aliens in Area 51 :)

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I remember in 1981 watching a documentary about the new "Steadicam", invented for the movie, "The Shining" - made to do super-smooth camera movements. I thought it was awesome. Who knew that 20 years later, camera operators would be deliberately shaking the camera all over the damn place like a drunk with a palsy problem.

 

I remember a lot of shaky camera work on 60s/70s sci-fi TV shows like Star Trek too though ;)

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I remember in 1981 watching a documentary about the new "Steadicam", invented for the movie, "The Shining" - made to do super-smooth camera movements. I thought it was awesome. Who knew that 20 years later, camera operators would be deliberately shaking the camera all over the damn place like a drunk with a palsy problem.

 

I remember a lot of shaky camera work on 60s/70s sci-fi TV shows like Star Trek too though ;)

 

I don't remember shaky camerawork in Star Trek. If there is, it's not deliberate. There's a difference between occasional accidental shaky camerawork and deliberate drunken spastic camerawork.

 

(great... now I've got that Star Trek Kirk fight music in my head... "da da DA da da da DA da da DA DA!")

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