sack-c0s Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 That first of 4 is pretty cool - is there a fuller version? I was thinking that too - not entirely sure about the timing on the bassline, but that shouldn't be so much work seeing as the hardest stuff seems to be done already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 ...but many times it looks like people don't WANT to understand, and that's still a pity. You know, this correct pokey-usage is not worked out by someone from the polish Atari-scene. It seems like that's also the reason why the polish coders don't work on it... Let's wait and see. I've posted some videos into KAZ's Atarum Forum. It seems, may people simply do not visit Atariage. So they did not know about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Sure, plenty of people don't come here, but 6 hours activity here in the 8-bit section alone probably exceeds all the rest of the "big" ones put together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 ... Can you contact me? Your email doesn't work anymore and when I PM you I get this message: The following errors were found The member analmux can not use the messaging system This personal message has not been sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Can you contact me? What would you like to contact me about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Can you contact me? What would you like to contact me about? Regarding the awesome multipurpose Player-Missile routine you made years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Regarding the awesome multipurpose Player-Missile routine you made years ago. Sorry, I have no time for that. Maybe you can post a topic here, or in the programming section about a question you're stuck with. If I'm correct others should also be able to help you on this, and there were multiple downloads of this tool, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) RastaConverter picture and another RMT experimental sound now played on Altirra.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YnVd8iK7us Edited May 17, 2012 by emkay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Awesome. Is there enough CPU time to run RMT while displaying these "rasta" images? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Plenty - it's a merged video with audio / static pic from seperate sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 The videos are chosen to fit to the real thing. ON PAL machine it should run easily. On NTSC machines the 240 lines could eventually make problems. 200 scanline pictures never should cause any troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 RastaConverter picture and another RMT experimental sound now played on Altirra.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YnVd8iK7us Nice job on the music and graphics. The "Out Run" logo portion of the picture looks a little rough though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Sorry, couldn't resist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-8SwgX3FVU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Hehe.... quite the wroong tune, but the instrument set could fit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JNnkVevqe0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernando marrin Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 RastaConverter picture and another RMT experimental sound now played on Altirra.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YnVd8iK7us can't wait for the upcoming Outrun for the A8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creature XL Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) RastaConverter picture and another RMT experimental sound now played on Altirra.... Nice job on the music and graphics. The "Out Run" logo portion of the picture looks a little rough though. You know? It's teh tools. We need perfect tools to get perfect results! *SCNR* EDIT: TBH I kinda like Emkay's enthusiasm with these tools. In the Quantizazor thread it looked liked everybody just threw images at it. Where as Emkay analyzed what causes these lines and edited the original images. Thumbs up for this. I really want to support his POKEY endeavors, however, I have no time to develop a complete tracker. What I still want to do is a instrument editor - besides other things Edited May 22, 2012 by Creature XL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym00 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Do you really need tools ? I mean, for every great idea I've had, I never really relied upon tools to deliver, if it was that important.. Tools came later.. No programmer ever waits on tools for something they've got a hard-on over.. It's paradoxical.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym00 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Cock! I'm sure the post above changed whilst replying.. My fault for not quoting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 What makes me still wonder is why it is so hard to understand that "good tools" is the only way to get more results. The better the tool, the broader the range of people using it. So, what's the best way to have more people doing something for the A8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sack-c0s Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 stop complaining at write the tools, or maybe create a single wiki point of reference so that someone with the time can get the information and know what they are building perhaps? You complain about a lack of tools, but the tools coders are complaining about a lack of specification. Feel free to break the cycle when you are ready... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 stop complaining at write the tools, or maybe create a single wiki point of reference so that someone with the time can get the information and know what they are building perhaps? You complain about a lack of tools, but the tools coders are complaining about a lack of specification. Feel free to break the cycle when you are ready... You want specifications? Doesn't there enough books for music generating exist? And even the coding books for the A8 and the functionality of POKEY is clearly described. Compared to the C64, would you like to have a tracker, only supporting 2 channels and some random noise generating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) Some virtual slideshow, using pictures of Rastaconverter and some 16 bit supported tune(s)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwlwyEOAgZs Edited May 23, 2012 by emkay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sack-c0s Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) stop complaining at write the tools, or maybe create a single wiki point of reference so that someone with the time can get the information and know what they are building perhaps? You complain about a lack of tools, but the tools coders are complaining about a lack of specification. Feel free to break the cycle when you are ready... You want specifications? Doesn't there enough books for music generating exist? And even the coding books for the A8 and the functionality of POKEY is clearly described. Compared to the C64, would you like to have a tracker, only supporting 2 channels and some random noise generating? Technical details of how a machine 'works' is one thing, the quirks that you can exploit are a whole other thing. The way you want it to work to get the results you are after is probably the most important thing, and that's the one that severely needs documenting. You can't write a good wordprocessor 'just by knowing how ASCII works', nor a good artist-friendly paint program 'because you know the pixel format of the machine'. You need to know the user as well as the machine, which is why I'm repeatedly asking these questions. I think at this point 'artist friendly' is what's going to bring in the results you so badly want. If everything you described there was good enough then you could just compose in an assembler and RMT would be overkill. But you say it isn't. Edited May 23, 2012 by sack-c0s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 I think at this point 'artist friendly' is what's going to bring in the results you so badly want. Wow. Almost 10 years of "demostrations" got you to realize the cause ....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creature XL Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Do you really need tools ? I mean, for every great idea I've had, I never really relied upon tools to deliver, if it was that important.. Tools came later.. No programmer ever waits on tools for something they've got a hard-on over.. It's paradoxical.. As I see it you are partly right. It can be seen (heard) that I use a simple "new waveform" for the death-sound in MJO-RC6. I programmed that. And I have a nice test-program where I can generate ADSR and the new waveforms on the fly and try things out. However, do you expect anyone to take my source code and modify it by hand to alter an instrument? While I am experimenting I have to do it and it is really cumbersome. BTW, said "tool" was born as I wanted to try the description by Analmux here in this very forum. So the info is here. However, it would be cool if there was a wiki page somewhere. Most of the AA-posts are in my bookmarks, so I could at least make a list of them. Combining them all and make a nice text out of it would be a thing for someone else, as I want to spend my time developing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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