DavidMil Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 The guy is asking €10000 ... are they that rare? I think that I stated in another post in the last month or so that Brad at Best Electronics said he only had a couple of them left after he sold me one for around $80.00. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Hello guys If enough people are interested, maybe Jürgen and/or Lenore or somebody else could redesign the SALT hardware. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 If enough people are interested, maybe Jürgen and/or Lenore or somebody else could redesign the SALT hardware. SALT board should be called PEPPER 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 no no no, should be Paprika! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Here is a list of all the IC's in the SS box add on: From largest to smallest... ADC0816CCN 40 pin A/D Converter with multiplexer MM74C150J 24 pin 16 to 1 multiplexer MC14411 24 pin bit rate generator CD4049CN 16 pin Hex buffer converter CD4053BCN 16 pin analog multiplexer/demuliplexor MM74C151J 16 pin ??? CD4011BCN 14 pin quad two input CD4066BCN 14 pin Quad bilateral switch MM74C93N 14 pin Hex inverting buffer/Converter LM324N 14 pin Quad op amp Don't quote me on these chip descriptions, but the chip numbers are correct (10 total IC's) David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Hello Nezgar SALT board should be called PEPPER As long as it get's a MUTE button, I don't mind if they start singing together. Sincerely Mathy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 As long as it get's a MUTE button, I don't mind if they start singing together.That... would be PEPA salt-n-pepa... the band... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1050 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 MM74C151J 16 pin ??? 151 is a an eight input multiplexer I know you said not to do that but the question marks hijacked my mind. In detail, logic chip numbers like this can be found in old databooks. Datasheet searches I don't usually even attempt since I already have the answer and just need to look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Does anyone have a SS cart that has an actual Atari label on it. I've never seen one. All the carts I've seen have a hand written of embossed tape saying Super SALT. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+tf_hh Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 If enough people are interested, maybe Jürgen and/or Lenore or somebody else could redesign the SALT hardware. Bradley (BEST Electronics) sell them "NOS" (New Old Stock). New, unused SALT extermal test fixture for all SALT versions in an Atari 850 shell for 50 USD. IMHO this is a fair price and there´s no need to clone it until some units are in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Bradley (BEST Electronics) sell them "NOS" (New Old Stock). New, unused SALT extermal test fixture for all SALT versions in an Atari 850 shell for 50 USD. IMHO this is a fair price and there´s no need to clone it until some units are in stock. As I stated a few posts back; I bought one from Brad about a month ago and he charged me $80.00. He said he only had a couple left and when they were gone, there were no more. Best prices have always gone up for item that are getting low. It's his way of making sure only the serious users want the part. I wasn't looking to start making SS carts, I only wanted to know if Atari actually made a cover for one. I would like to see someone make boxes after Brad sells his last two. David 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Hello David From what I've seen, Atari used modified 850 cases for the Super Salt external test fixtures. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) The 850 box was the universal project box for most test rigs actually... Edited November 15, 2018 by _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Hello David From what I've seen, Atari used modified 850 cases for the Super Salt external test fixtures. Sincerely Mathy I've attached a few pictures. The power supply comes from a 2600, the four test cable came from Best, and the modified power cable I made. With the modified cable the box can check voltage from your 9 volt AC power supply. I don't think it is capable of testing DC voltages. And yes Mathy, it is an unmodified 850 case with no labels on it anywhere (including the bottom). David 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman51 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (DIY) SUPER SALT DIAGNOSTIC CARTRIDGE FOR ATARI 8 BIT FAMILY https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/_DIY__SUPER_SALT_DIAGNOSTIC_CARTRIDGE_PCB_FOR_ATARI_8_BIT_FAMILY.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800_Rocks Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Can SALT be run from disk or from SDrive Max? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) On 3/1/2021 at 12:48 AM, 800_Rocks said: Can SALT be run from disk or from SDrive Max? Yes, you can: SALT205.rex SupSALT.rex XETESTR2.rex The extension ("REX", o "ROMEX") can be changed to .XEX, as the files are fully compatible with DOS/SDX load-manager. You can safely and reliably launch from SIO-attached (SDrive, SDrive NUXX, SDrive Maxx) or even U1MB / Incognito loader. Even TAPE would work, provided you transfer them with the right utility. I developed this "romex" format out of necessity, a couple of years ago, as I always found handling the physical carts such a hassle, especially when working on my test-beds. The format is based on a [{delta-loader} + {delta-patch} + {payload}] concept, where the payload is, in itself, a pristine (unaltered) rom-image of the cart. FYI, it will run on 800 OS/b, 800 OS/N, OS XL 02, OS XE 03/04, QMeg 4.04, and up to Altirra 3.31 loads. (NOTE: a minimum of 48KB base ram is required at all times!). That should cover 99% of what's out there. Edited April 29, 2021 by Faicuai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800_Rocks Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Faicuai said: The extension ("REX", o "ROMEX") can be changed to .XEX, as the files are fully compatible with DOS/SDX load-manager. You can safely and reliably launch from SIO-attached (SDrive, SDrive NUXX, SDrive Maxx) or even U1MB / Incognito loader. Even TAPE would work, provided you transfer them with the right utility. I developed this "romex" format out of necessity, a couple of years ago, as I always found handling the physical carts such a hassle, especially when working on my test-beds. The format is based on a [{delta-loader} + {delta-patch} + {payload}] concept, where the payload is, in itself, a pristine (unaltered) rom-image of the cart. FYI, it will run on 800 OS/b, 800 OS/N, OS XL 02, OS XE 03/04, QMeg 4.04, and up to Altirra 3.31 loads. (NOTE: a minimum of 48KB base ram is required at all times!). That should cover 99% of what's out there. Hi Faicuai - great info and thanks for the images. I have them booting fine from my SDrive Max on my 48K 800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800_Rocks Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Do you know where I can purchase the SIO Port Test Connector and/or the joystick test connector (for 400/800 and or XL XE too)? Alternatively... the pin-out ont he SIO Port Test Connector so I can make my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, 800_Rocks said: Do you know where I can purchase the SIO Port Test Connector and/or the joystick test connector (for 400/800 and or XL XE too)? Alternatively... the pin-out ont he SIO Port Test Connector so I can make my own. Well, this one may be a bit more challenging. I am not really sure about the unit described above. These are the only entries available on Best-Electronics (probably the only source for any relevant diagnostics HW): 400 / 800 SALT External 4 Port Diagnostic Jumper / Shorting board required for the above 400 / 800 Joystick Port test. TE15648 $45.00 C.P.S. Super SALT Extended Hardware Universal Test PCB(400-XL-XE Computers) FA100332 Sold Out Here's the page (GAWD, I hate that site !!!!): Addendum (best-electronics-ca.com) I actually have/use #2, which I bought some months ago, before going extinct (I warned everyone to buy as soon as they could). It is meant to be used with SuperSalt cart, from the ones I attached above): If I were you, I would contact Brad @ Best Electronics, and ask for Part# TE15648 and EVERYTHING else related to it he may have in stock. Probably your best shot. Edited April 30, 2021 by Faicuai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACML Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Is this what you are looking for? PM me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 11:48 PM, 800_Rocks said: Can SALT be run from disk or from SDrive Max? How many types of SALT/ Super SALT did Atari put out? I have two different ones: 400/800 Standalone System Test Rev. 2.05, dated 1982 And a: 400/800/XL Part number FD100335 Rev. A, dated 1983 David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Wow , very particularly a piece of hardware ever I seen in my entire life ... So this hardware just testing voltage , that's it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Badger Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 On 11/6/2018 at 3:29 PM, Mathy said: Hello Nezgar As long as it get's a MUTE button, I don't mind if they start singing together. Sincerely Mathy Hah, don't push it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Spanish Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 On 11/5/2018 at 2:35 AM, Nezgar said: It 'closely' matched "CPS SuperSALT (1983)(Atari)[h Irata].rom" from rdea6 in post 17: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/194736-super-salt-diagnostic-carts/?p=2475694which is modified only in the title screen to remove the part # text, and changed © 1983 ATARI, INC. to be (E) 1900 IRATA,INC., and "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED" replaced with spaces. Some joker hack I guess This is the only 2.05 which seem to work on my 1200XL. So other than the title screen, everything else in original/untouched ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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