New 2600 Music

[Godzilla]

yea but maybes its more buff processor could squeeze a bit more out, eh?

[ZylonBane]

The 6507 can already drive digital audio through it. That's about as hard as you can squeeze any sound chip.

[Paul Slocum]

To what extent is something like this possible with the Synthcart? I haven't picked one up, yet...

 

You can't do stuff quite that advanced with the Synthcart since it requires careful programming to get it to sound like there are more than 2 voices. The Synthcart is geared a little more towards being used with other instruments. Here's a couple of clips of the Synthcart:

 

http://qotile.net/audio/synthcart_square_arp.mp3

 

http://qotile.net/audio/atari_jam3.mp3

 

f you can do that with the 2600, i bet you sythesize an entire orchestra with a 7800.

 

I'd be much more likely to work on the 5200 since the Pokey is basically like two TIAs with better pitch and more features. I am going to be writing some Colecovision music soon.

 

-Paul

[PeeknPoke]

I love it!

Id love to do some sort of Atari 2600 music video mpeg with that sometime soon! Would that be okay paul?

 

(For my previous efforts see PeeknPoke website)

 

Lee

[ZylonBane]

You mean like this one?

[PeeknPoke]

I only wish my talents were that good!

I would love to make a video collage of Atari 2600 games using that music Paul made, using current 2600 games..would be good fun

 

 

Lee

[mvigor]

Paul that clip is amazing!

[AtariKari]

You can't do stuff quite that advanced with the Synthcart since it requires careful programming to get it to sound like there are more than 2 voices.

 

So those crunchy undertones aren't possible? Dang.

 

Thanks for the clips, and please keep 'em coming

[Paul Slocum]

Id love to do some sort of Atari 2600 music video mpeg with that sometime soon! Would that be okay paul?

 

There's a chance I might use that clip in a real song, so I'd prefer it were not used for a video at this point. If I decide not to use it in a song, then you can use it for the video. And I should have more music soon that you can use.

 

So those crunchy undertones aren't possible? Dang.

 

You can get it a little crunchier than that bass one I posted. I had filtered out some of the highs in that sample. But you still won't get it as crunchy as you can with my new driver. I'm using several tricks to make it extra crunchy. I might do a Synthcart 1.5 or something and just add the ability to play with the new tricks I figured out. It would be easy to add the audio code, but the user interface code would be a bit of trouble. I won't do a completely new Synthcart II until someone comes out with an Atari PCB with non-volatile RAM so you can edit and save your own sequences. Anyways, here's the Synthcart recorded unfiltered with a little more crunch:

 

http://qotile.net/audio/synthcart_bass.mp3

 

-Paul

[PeeknPoke]

No problem Paul

I will possibly use the Pitfall II music then

Regards

Lee

[AtariKari]

Anyways, here's the Synthcart recorded unfiltered with a little more crunch:

 

Ah yes, that's the stuff That textured sound is frigging on the $.

 

Thanks! And more, please.

[Paul Slocum]

Something I found out recently about Pitfall II is that the music is really noisy when played back through a audio out mod into a hi-fi system. The volume twiddling trick he's using ends up generating a lot of high frequency noise. I guess that between the RF modulation and limited frequency reponse of most TVs, you usually don't hear much of it.

 

http://qotile.net/audio/pitfall2.mp3

 

-Paul

[Rob Mitchell]

Ok .. I wonder .. Imagine a 2600 cart with two RCA sockets for L/R stereo inputs .. and a circuit that senses frequency intensity and Paul Slocum's video music program as the output. Doable? That would be Atari 2600 Video Music. Switches could allow for preset conditions for varieties.

 

Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA

[Paul Slocum]

Ok .. I wonder .. Imagine a 2600 cart with two RCA sockets for L/R stereo inputs .. and a circuit that senses frequency intensity and Paul Slocum's video music program as the output.  Doable?  That would be Atari 2600 Video Music.  Switches could allow for preset conditions for varieties.

 

I think this is an excellent idea but as I told Rob, I don't have the hardware expertise to do it easily. Maybe someone else would be interested in doing the hardware, then several programmers could contribute different display modes.

 

-Paul

[raindog]

It's funny, I always thought a port of MULE to the 2600 would be possible if it weren't for the music...

 

Rob

[ZylonBane]

...and lack of 4 joystick ports.

[raindog]

I wasn't too worried about that because anyone still playing Atari games in 2003 can't possibly have 3 friends who also want to play Atari games

 

Rob

[Godzilla]

reprogram mule to use the paddles.

[Paul Slocum]

The M.U.L.E. music wouldn't be possible (without severe butchering) on the 2600 without a DPC chip.

[Godzilla]

really? your little mp3 demo REALLY reminded me of mules music

[Paul Slocum]

The biggest limitation with the 2600 is the pitch (only 5 bits). So writing an original song using notes that the Atari can play in tune is one thing, and trying to port an existing tune is whole other mess. The MULE tune has way too many notes.

 

-Paul

[ZylonBane]

reprogram mule to use the paddles.

Ugh.

[moycon]

Ugh.

 

Gas???

 

 

Have you heard the demos off that The Bad Method CD listed in the AtariAge store?

I think malgorithm would go awesome with Adventure or Venture or maybe even Dark Chambers.

[Godzilla]

u could do it, use double click for extra functions. whether the button is held while twisting the paddle or not could determine whether you are moving your cursor. or even just have it cycle down the screen in rows, paddle allows for fast movement