Sr. Ferraz Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 A friend is selling on Ebay a cartridge "Great Escape" manufactured by Bomb (Atari 2600, NTSC). Rare item to find, is in very good condition, rarity 9 ! eBay Auction -- Item Number: 251063618842 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 There's a special area in the Marketplace forum, specifically for auctions: http://www.atariage.com/forums/forum/24-auction-central/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Alls I see is a very expensive PAL cart. The "QC passed P" sticker on the back is a dead giveaway that this is PAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Alls I see is a very expensive PAL cart. The "QC passed P" sticker on the back is a dead giveaway that this is PAL Yup, P = PAL Whats the PAL Great Escape go for these days, $20? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 On a good day. I have seen more and more PAL copies surface over the last 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatefulGravey Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I always look at where the item is coming from. Its easy to tell its PAL when its coming from Brazil. Too bad this PAL instead of NTSC type "scam" (I don't believe it is always meant to be, just an honest mistake sometimes) is something that has to be watched for so often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Whats the PAL Great Escape go for these days, $20? Not even that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Ferraz Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Sorry to put this in the wrong area, I have never posted anything in this area. I believe that many people still don't know that the color system in Brazil is not PAL, it is PAL-M (which is quite different !). Here we generally use cartridges manufactured in the U.S.A. (NTSC), and the cartridges manufactured here are NTSC. All consoles (systems) manufactured in Brazil have an internal transcoder (NTSC >>> PAL-M), the consoles are similar to those manufactured in the U.S.A. (NTSC). When the console is adapted with A/V output it is NTSC. A friend of mine has brought it for me to check the cartridge. I put it on 2 original Brazilian consoles with RF output (Polyvox and Onyx Junior). The TV images (screenshots) and colors are the same or very similar to those which are on AtariAge (the counter turns green). The game has got an 'acceleration indicator' which changes its color during the game. I put the cartridge into an Atari with A/V output (NTSC) and the colors were the same or similar. The owner of the cartridge placed it in an original U.S. console with 6 keys (NTSC), the images were similar or identical (see photos). He had used an Atari with colors problems, so the counter had turned blue, he corrected it and added some new photos to the Ebay (another console). I scanned the label, it's very good. I have googled auctions of this cartridge on Ebay but found none. Strange, as it is so easy to find ... What would be the difference? I have seen consoles (with several games in them) manufactured in Taiwan - PAL-M system - especifically to be sold in Brazil. Maybe that cartridge has been manufactured to be sold in Brazil. What do you think ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Are you saying an apple is an orange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Yup, P = PAL Whats the PAL Great Escape go for these days, $20? Please tell me that's you in your avatar Crazy. Please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I have googled auctions of this cartridge on Ebay but found none. Strange, as it is so easy to find ... First one I came to: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 260677771010 15 euros - no takers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Ferraz Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Sorry nofrills100, but what do you mean? An unfair comparison ? Instructions: http://www.atariage.com/manual_html_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=224 Screenshots: http://www.atariage.com/screenshot_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=224 I placed below images comparing AtariAge screenshots to this cartridge, notice that AtariAge images are digital and superior. This auction is interesting (February), but it doesn't show "This listing has ended" and the seller has not advertised the item again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) Sorry nofrills100, but what do you mean? An unfair comparison ? Yeah I guess I am - the sticker clearly shows it is PAL and you are trying to say it is NTSC. If I were your friend I would remove this listing as NTSC... someone is going to be very disappointed when they get it and it isn't NTSC This auction is interesting (February), but it doesn't show "This listing has ended" and the seller has not advertised the item again. Are you talking about the auction I linked? This auction is current, and has been listed since December 2011 and still it has not sold for the BIN price of 15euros - that should give you an indication of what the PAL Great Escape is worth. edit: ha! actually I see it has been listed since October 2010... perhaps not always for 15 euros... but it is definitely not in demand. Edited May 20, 2012 by nofrills100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I paid 2 Euros for mine two weeks ago. So no not really worth much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) ok Edited May 20, 2012 by pangasinan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 What do you mean? It reads Format: NTSC (N.America) right in the description/item specifics box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) In that case the seller should change the format if its not too late. Edited May 20, 2012 by pangasinan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I guess it wouldn't be entirely out of the question that a P sticker was put on a NTSC cart by mistake. It's possible a minimum wage warehouse employee could have made a mistake. I know the NTSC carts are often eproms instead of masked roms so you could always pop it open? Might ruin the label though....I just know with a P sticker on the back it is going to be tough to pass as a NTSC cart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Yup, P = PAL Whats the PAL Great Escape go for these days, $20? Please tell me that's you in your avatar Crazy. Please. No, sadly not...here is one my Wife snapped of me this morning.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpendTooMuchOnAtari Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) $62 for a PAL Great Escape? Someone is going to be pissed! The seller has 20 Negatives and 17 Neutrals in the last twelve months, this may add one more to that list. Edited May 25, 2012 by SpendTooMuchOnAtari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 $62 for a PAL Great Escape? Someone is going to be pissed! That's if they find out its not NTSC,if they couldnt be bothered doing any research,then they propbably wont know its PAL. Might just pay to message the buyer if feedback is left and show them this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 AFAIK this is what the NTSC version looks like: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 The buyers ebay id is toymailman they are from the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre81 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 The buyers ebay id is toymailman they are from the USA. He is also here on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 The buyers ebay id is toymailman they are from the USA. Smoking the good stuff again, are we? The seller was wendelp2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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