BBS via Linux Terminal?

[esplonky]

How do I connect to bbs using a linux terminal and telnet and mgetty.

 

 

I'm in Fedora 14 with an atari 800XL and a sio2pc and aspeQt

[+bf2k+]

try:

 

telnet://bfbbs.no-ip.com

[esplonky]

and how do i go about connecting to this on my atari?

[+bf2k+]

Sorry I thought you already had it connected. I can't help with aspqt - no experience.

 

I do what you are trying to do conecting the Atari to APE on a Windows PC.

[Fox-1 / mnx]

How do I connect to bbs using a linux terminal and telnet and mgetty.

 

I'm in Fedora 14 with an atari 800XL and a sio2pc and aspeQt

 

Not.

 

You need to set-up a terminal connection from Atari to fedora. On the Atari side you need a serial device handler (usually R:) and AspeQt doesn't support that.

[esplonky]

i need a noob's tutorial...

[Fox-1 / mnx]

As far as talking doing it the regular way:

 

First thing you need is a device that adds a "PC style" serial RS232 port to the Atari 8-Bit. There are plenty of ways to do that. A SIO2PC interface can be considered as being one.

 

Next, you need a driver on Atari 8-Bit that adds an "R:" handler to HATABS. Just like you use "D:" to access a disk drive, or "P:" for the printer, you need an "R:" to access the serial interface but it has to be loaded/installed by yourself. Since the SIO2PC hardware is very similar to the RVerter interface you may try the RVERTER handler (It's on the IceT ATR 2.74 posted a little while ago, just to name one location).

 

Buy/make/borrow/steal a null-modem cable (or correctly wired break-out box). In case you need it, wiring is on my site: http://atari.mixinc.net/pinouts/pinouts.htm

 

Connect PC and Atari with the null-modem cable.

 

Load a terminal on both systems. Config as ASCII, 9600 baud, No parity, 8 bits, 1 stop bit (in many cases this is the default).

 

Check if you can send text back and forth between the 2 systems by typing characters in the terminal screen. If you see strange characters when typing, double-check your baudrate setting.

 

Once you can get this to work it's time to move to step 2...

[esplonky]

do I have to have a null modem?

[Marius]

If I remember this correct you can use a sio2pc interface that is connected to a serial port on pc to act like a null modem cable although you can only use it for transfer and talk.

 

Follow fox-1 guide for the rest.

 

I used to transfer a lot years ago this way.

[esplonky]

I know how to transfer, what I am trying to do is BBS via a linux terminal, using an R-Verter and a sio2pc.

[Marius]

When you connect to your Linux machine, there must be a way to connect to the Linux terminal through the com port of the Linux machine.

 

If you get the login prompt you log on with your Linux credentials.

 

Then you could do anything you could do with the Linux terminal.

 

With the telnet command then you could bbsing with the Atari.

[spookt]

Hey Guys

 

This thread has encouraged me to set this up on my machine. I'm using the serial port of my MIO set as 9600 N 1 and a null modem cable connected to ttyS0 on my Fedora Linux server. I've been using IceT to try it out.

 

The problem I'm having is that I can send data from the Linux box to the Atari, but not from the Atari back.

 

If I start up IceT on the A8 and then do 'screen /dev/ttyS0' on the Linux end, whatever I type on the Linux keyboard is echoed on the Atari screen, but when I type at the Atari end nothing pops out on the Linux end. Same thing happens if I run a GUI, I see the login prompt on the A8 but can't respond.

 

I'm happy the null modem is good as I use it to copy data from my Amiga to a PC so I'm wondering if I missed a setting some where? Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

[Fox-1 / mnx]

Without that last sentence I'd suspect the null-modem.

 

Is there a chance it's just something obvious, like, a loose wire in the cable, or slightly different wiring for Amiga usage, or a bent pin on the MIO connector?

[charliecron]

Just really need to setup a gettty on your linux box .. different distributions do it different ways, most configure it out of /etc/inittab. Not sure how you run a GUI or screen on a serial line, but I wouldn't worry unlesss you have a getty setup and still can't log in.

[esplonky]

I don't even get to the login prompt. I run puTTY and it won't even let me open my /dev/ttyUSB0 (I'm using sloopys sio2pc USB) and aspeqt works fine with it transferring files to my atari

[spookt]

Without that last sentence I'd suspect the null-modem.

 

Is there a chance it's just something obvious, like, a loose wire in the cable, or slightly different wiring for Amiga usage, or a bent pin on the MIO connector?

 

Yeah, I think you're right. Even in this cable which is supposed to be a "full" null modem I think CD is not corrected correctly so IceT doesn't know it is connected. I'm going to buy a couple of connectors and wire up a cable myself next week.

[Fox-1 / mnx]

If you happen to have a lot of regular serial modem cables laying around you can also make an adapter cable which turn it into a null modem cable.

[+DarkLord]

IF BBS'ing is all you're seeking, you could just pick up a used Lantronix serial to LAN converter from

Ebay for $20-30, and go that route.

 

Just a thought.

[esplonky]

I'm 16 years old and broke. So buying something isn't an option

[+DarkLord]

That's....okay.... 'Nuff said...

 

Good luck, I hope you get it working...

[charliecron]

Not sure that you need aspeqt here. You don't want anything touching the serial port other than your getty program. No kernal modules either (I think aspeqt can use the atarisio kernal module?).

 

I've not tried it but I hear the rverter driver on the atari works with sio2pc, so once you have that driver appended to your terminal program (you use dos to append a one program to another), and you have your getty program configured, you should be good to go. As for starting a getty, your kind of on your own. Some hints can be found at this link..

 

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=240198

 

You need to try starting a getty out of /etc/event.d/ttyUSB0 with the script provided down in the thread.

 

You can probably try starting one manually as well with something like

 

/sbin/agetty -L 9600 /dev/ttyUSB0

 

Play with different baud rates if you can't connect at 9600, actually maybe lower with an sio2pc, say 1200 or 2400.

[awace]

This is EXACTLY what i want to do with my Atari but w out linux OK now that I have Fixed checked a Polaroid TV's bulbs and need a inverter $10 off ebay cheap I can now go back to the REAL Atari Hardware I am Dieing to run those german .atr's with the cool demos on the real hardware.. I also want to transfer .atr files to the real Atari I have figured out how to get atr files off the REAL Atari using apeshareware and a old ULTRA copy file I copy from drive 1 to drive 1 and the emulation APE has drive 2 as CLONE then somehow the .atr is a saveable TEMP file I still have to wait REAL Atari copy speed but it worked and works both ways I can put laptop on Atari and put a .atr on drive 1 w power off on REAL drive then it becomes the emulation ape drive and boots like a REAL atari drive now I saw in ape a rs232 sio to internet thing but never used it I think there is a way to use ape to telnet witch I thoght was cool cause I knew i could the sio and ape to connect atari to telnet but never found telnet addresses or used it I think im going to try it if i have success ill let you know also my christmas images have lots of rs232 files to use there is a 850 interface file and other files too like printer and stuff OH wow i forgot ape has printer too wow mabie im just lazy.

[awace]

When if and or if I get a telenet working in attascii Ill let you know.

My other laptop died and I just got this one working and I am going to futz with the Atari on saturday!. and the sio!

[awace]

I know ubuntu is easy to use I had a Atari emulation running in it once although I dont know mutch about linux exept for loading puppy linux aps apts n stuff ALTHOUGH IT would be cool to use atari to run linux that would be cool as I got linux loaded on a mini pc104 1 board computer witch would be fun to hook to the atari.

[esplonky]

4 years later and you guys are still helping me with this

I've been trying to BBS again for a few days now, and just found out I'm forgetting -L in my agetty command thanks to this wonderful thread.

 

 

 

P.S. Oh to be 16 again...