Caterpiggle Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I has been trying to plug "Atari 65XEM.rom" and "Atari1400XL.rom" into my Altirra/X64 2.10-test25 on my Window 7 Professional 64 bits, All I seen are black screen appear. Sometime, I seen green color (same color from self-test background) from 65XEM. Does anyone knew how to port those roms above into my favorite Altirra ? Please contact to the author of this emulator. Because I really WANT to test V: command with a short program that design for 1400XL. My gut that prototype Atari 65XEM SHOULD be work on the real hardware and also on this emulator ! Please contact me if you have the solution ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 V: for 1400XL needs extra hardware with the speech chip. AFAIK it's not emulated in any Atari emulator and probably not planned to be. 65XEM ROM - can't say I've heard of that. Can you post a copy here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) AtariAge stated, "Error You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file" ?? What will I do ? Edited June 13, 2012 by Caterpiggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) There you go at this time. Thank you for BIG suggestion with ".BIN" ! Strange is 32 K size instead of normal 16K rom size such for 800XL and 600XL etc .... 65XEM.BIN Edited June 13, 2012 by Caterpiggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Put the rom inside a Zip file, or just give it a different extension. I thought "ROM" was permitted, "BIN" should work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 check above you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Some bad news... it's not a 65XEM ROM, it's the 32K XEGS ROM. 32K = 8K Missile Command + 8K Basic + 16K OS. Given that XEM was never fully developed, I doubt it had a unique Rom anyway. Edited June 13, 2012 by Rybags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Speaking of prototypes, seeming as though the 65xe(P) was a tramiel design, were there any refuges from the commodore equivalent (the SX-64) involved in the design or development of this prototype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I don't see why. I bet that thing was 80% empty space inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 V: for 1400XL needs extra hardware with the speech chip. AFAIK it's not emulated in any Atari emulator and probably not planned to be. 65XEM ROM - can't say I've heard of that. Can you post a copy here? Aren't the Votrax chips emulated by MAME and others? It could probably be added without too much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 The difference between a 65XE and a 65XEM is basically just the 40 pin AMY chip. This has nothing to do with the 1400/1450 "V:" handler. I also don't think that for the 65XEM another o.s. is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 To Carmel, Yes, I am aware about prototype Atari 65XEP also. I don't forget that model. I did full witness the real hardware of 65XEP at Las Vegas, NV Expo Show in 2009 ! It would be nice to find the actually Atari 65XEP.ROM ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 XEP probably used the same old Rom as existing machines. But if the disk drive was PBI attached it'd likely have a handler within the device that does the different I/O. No point emulating this. And on real hardware we have new fast interfaces, even for floppies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr0tki Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 V: for 1400XL needs extra hardware with the speech chip. AFAIK it's not emulated in any Atari emulator and probably not planned to be. It is emulated in Atari800. linky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Thank you Krotki, I will test on this emulation of "Atari800". Altirra has the most updated version compare to Atari800. However, I will test on this Atari800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBuell Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 XEP probably used the same old Rom as existing machines. But if the disk drive was PBI attached it'd likely have a handler within the device that does the different I/O. No point emulating this. And on real hardware we have new fast interfaces, even for floppies. I think it was also meant to have a 3.5" drive - but does that necessarily mean different firmware (just asking)? What was required to convert the XF551 to a 3.5" drive, the new casing, or new chips, or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 To John, You will have to ask Bob Woolley. He will answer your question.I think it is new chip that he wrote a firmware. He is member of this AtariAge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bob1200xl Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 You need to make a few code changes in the ROM when you use a 3.5 drive. That's about all. Bob XEP probably used the same old Rom as existing machines. But if the disk drive was PBI attached it'd likely have a handler within the device that does the different I/O. No point emulating this. And on real hardware we have new fast interfaces, even for floppies. I think it was also meant to have a 3.5" drive - but does that necessarily mean different firmware (just asking)? What was required to convert the XF551 to a 3.5" drive, the new casing, or new chips, or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 - Bob Can you be kind to upload 1450XLD.rom and be sure you add ".BIN" at the end for upload only. Does anyone have the actually rom of 65XEM ? SO that I may test on "Atari800" emulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Can you be kind to upload 1450XLD.rom and be sure you add ".BIN" at the end for upload only. ATARI_ROM_1450XLD.zip In the zip are 2 different ROM versions: ---------------------------------------- ATA_R03X.ROM = ATARI 1450XLD O.S. Rev. 3 1984 (1) Match: 1450R3V0.ROM (Freddy Offenga) CRC32: 0D477AA1 ---------------------------------------- ATA_R03Y.ROM = ATARI 1450XLD O.S. Rev. 3 1984 (2) Match: 1450R3VX.ROM (Freddy Offenga) CRC32: D425A9CF ---------------------------------------- Does anyone have the actually rom of 65XEM ? You've asked this multiple times in multiple threads and always got "there is none" as an answer. How much confirmation do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Wow , many thanks! for Atari1450XLD rom !!!!! First time ever I got the real rom as downloadable. I know there are 2 different version 1450XLD there. My tread ,that I would be happy to send a photo of the real Atari 1450XLD at Las Vegas (Vintage Computer Expo), NV in 2009 to you (To FOX-1). Will work on "Atari800" emulator ? I already have downloadable 1400XL rom. Please forgive me to ask many threads about 65XEM because I thought it is there "AMY" chip as rom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 A photo of a real 1450XLD? This one is located 20KM's away from my place: http://members.home....xlxe-model.html As for the ROMs, no idea if they can get to work with Atari800. I don't use emulators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 Curt , do you have the actually the real one Owner's Guide Books for both 1400XL and 1450XLD ? and have the original box with Styrofoam box for both computer ? ONLY if Atari had been released both, it should be BIG box for 1450XLD ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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