Commercial only games compatible with mono screen?

[macgoo]

I tried looking on Atari-Legend but they only have exclusive monochrome game search function search not mono compatible as was hinted at in an old thread?

 

Also I don't want to know about PD games or shareware, only proper full price games sold in shops. Not bothered if they are mono only or mono and colour. What I do want though is arcade/action games not adventures or strategy games.

 

There probably isn't that many so I was going to do youtube videos of them

[simonsunnyboy]

I don't think there were any at all. All titles were either color or both mono/color but none were mono only.

Maybe Oxyd and Esprit by Dongleware count for your point of view but those had playable shareware like copies given into PD that were complete but you needed to buy the manual to play them through.

 

All others I know about, also work in color such as Starglider or the Sierra titles.

[macgoo]

But that is exactly what I am looking for, commercial non text adventure/strategy games sold for the ST that worked in monochrome and color mode, like Starglider which you mention.

 

Didn't mean mono only games, that is something I can search for on Atari Legend, however I can't search for games which just support mono as well as color mode on there.

[Thorsten Günther]

This should help:

 

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4791

[macgoo]

Thanks that's what I was looking for

 

Not home and dry though as sadly, as someone stated in there, the crackers don't make mono friendly cracktros for mono friend games

 

(this is why I HATE cracked games in my collection but sadly sometimes that's all there is)

[ParanoidLittleMan]

Here is one shorter list, but with some titles missing at other, usual lists:

List of monochrome (High ST res.) compatible games on this adaptation page :

 

Alpha Waves

 

BattleZone

 

Black Cauldron

 

Bolo

 

Boston Bombclub

 

Brataccas

 

Colorado

 

Corruption

 

Crystal Castles

 

Crystals of Arborea

 

Fish

 

Flight Simulator 2

 

Guild of Thieves

 

JET

 

Journey to the Centre of the Earth

 

Missile Command

 

Mission Elevator

 

Moon Patrol

 

No Limit 2

 

Oxyd - diverse vresions

 

Phoenix

 

Proflight

 

Pro Tennis Tour (aka Great Courts)

 

Robotron 2084

 

Secret of Monkey Island

 

Silicon Dreams - Trilogy : Eden, Snowball, Worm

 

Starblade

 

Starglider

 

Starglider 2

 

Stone Age

 

Targhan

 

Ultima III-IV ?

 

Windsurf Willy

 

Zak McKracken ...

 

 

 

Usually, Sierra games have monochrom support too. But I need to fix launchers of those games that mono mode work ...

 

All games are comercial. May DL them here: http://atari.8bitchip.info/fromhd.php - hard disk adaptations, but many will work from floppy too.

 

General rule may be: 80% of Silmarils games are mono compatible. Then many of by Atari published, mostly coded by Andromeda.

 

You can go on atarimania.com and look for mono compatible ones with advanced search - pretty complete database.

 

P.S. : I don't think that many cracks were made so, that mono mode is lost. It happened mostly because they discarded mono specific files, if they existed, in usual effort to squeeze as much titles on floppy as possible. In any case, I think that collecting all mono compatible games is possible right now. We have STX images for all of them, likely. Only case where I was in dilemma was Block Out (3D Tetris), where I saw filenames of monochrome screens, menus, but there were no such files on cracks. Later I found STXes of original, and no mono files too. So, that idea was not realised, obviously.

Edited July 9, 2012 by ParanoidLittleMan

[+DarkLord]

I'm fairly sure that only Ultima 2 and 3 will work in mono - don't think the others do...

[macgoo]

I couldn't get a single commercial non RPG/Adventure game to work in mono mode on STEem so never mind. Starglider 1 and 2 are just plain broken if run in mono mode for me.

[+DarkLord]

They work great on real ST hardware though!

[Marius]

It was already mentioned, but Monkey Island is really epic on Mono. In color it is great ... yeah, but the mono graphics... that is something special.

[ParanoidLittleMan]

Here is pretty complete list, with 269 titles - and I removed all text only adventures, as it is nonsense to list them here.

There are some unknown ones missing yet, but I think that commercial games are covered at least 95% now.

 

 

ST High compatible games

 

12 Jahrhundert, Das

3D Labyrinth

3D Lab

4-7-11

 

20000 Leagues Under The Sea

8 Ball

 

Acidopolis

Adventure

Agros

Alpha Waves

Anduril

Angband

Annals of Rome

Arcade Mania

Arger

Asteroids

AstroPanic 94

AstroPanic

 

Backgammon

Backgammon Royale

Balance of Power

Balance of Power - The 1990 Edition

Ballerburg

Ballyhoo

BattleZone

Beyond Zork - The Coconut of Quendor

Black & White

Black Box

Black Cauldron, The

Blackjack Plus 3

Blueberry

Bob Winner

Bolo

Borderzone

Borrowed Time

Boston Bomb Club

Brataccas

Breakout

Bride of the Robot

Bundesliga Manager

Bunny Bricks

Bureaucracy

 

Cards

Castle Combat

Cave Runner II

Checkmate

Chess Champion 2175

Chess Player 2150

Chipgame

Club Backgammon

Coboerse

Coco Coq in Grostesteing

Coco Coq in Base de Grostesteing

CoCoCoPo

Colonel's Bequest, The

Colorado

Columns

Conquests of Camelot

Corruption

Crystal Castles

Crystal of Arborea

Cutthroats

 

Dam

DataChess II

Deathstrike

DGDB

Donald Ducks Playground

Dozer

Drachen

Drachen von Laas, Die

DST

 

Eiskalt

Eiskalt II

Electronic Pool

Emmanuelle

Empire: Wargame of the Century

Enchanter - txt only

Enigme a Madrid

Anigme a Oxford

Esprit

Exodrom

Eplode

Extensor

 

Fall & Fit

Fire Brigade

Fish!

Flight Simulator II

Flip Flop

Flip Side

From Little Acorns

Fussball-ST

 

Gem AmiGo

General

Gilgalad

Gnome Ranger

Gnome Ranger 2 - Ingrid's Back

GNU Chess 4.0

Gnuchess

Go Board

Gobang

Gold Rush!

Gomoku

GPPD

Great Courts

Guild of Thieves, The21

 

Halma

Hangman

Hank's Quest - Victim of Society

Hanse

Hascs - serial

Hellowoon - Das Geheimnis des Zauberstabs

Hero's Quest

Hexagon

Hippo Backgammon

Hotshot checkers

Hoyle´s Book of Games Volume 1

Hoyle´s Book of Games Volume 2

 

Imperium

Indian Mission

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

Insel, Die

Invaders

Invers

Inversi

Ishar - Legend Of The Fortress

Ishar II - Messengers of Doom

Ishar III - The Seven Gates of Infinity

Ishido

 

Jackpot

JET

Jewels of Darkness

Jinxter27

 

King's Quest - Quest for the Crown

King's Quest II - Romancing the Throne

King's Quest III - To Heir is Human

King's Quest IV - The Perils of Rosella

Kniffel

Knight Orc

Krabat Chess

 

Lancelot

Lands of Havoc

Legend of Faerghall

Legend of the Sword

Leisure Suit Larry - The Land of the Lounge Lizards

Leisure Suit Larry 2 - Goes Looking for Love

Leisure Suit Larry 3 - Passionate Patti in Pursuit of the Pulsating Pecto

Leonid

Loom

Lucky Luke

Lurking Horror, The18

 

Mac Pan

Macro War

Magnetic Scrolls Collection, The

Manhunter - New York

Manhunter 2 - San Francisco

Maniac Mansion

Maze, The

Mega-Memory

Megaroids

Metal Mutant

Midi Maze

Midi Maze II

Midi Maze Plus

Millipede

Mind Forever Voyaging, A

Mindshadow

Missile Command (High Res Version)

Mission

Mission X

Monkey Business - mono

Moonmist

Moon Patrol

Mortville Manor

Moving Puzzle

Myth

 

Nam 1965-1975

No Limit

No Limit 2

Nord and Bert

Not a penny more, Not a penny less

 

Ogre

Oil Imperium

Online Backgammon

Ooze

Opus No. 1

Other Place

Oxyd (High Res Version)

Oxyd 2 (High Res Version)

 

Pawn, The

Perfect Match

Perry Mason - The Case of the Mandarin Murder

Phoenix

Planetfall

Play Me

Police Quest - In Pursuit of the Death Angel

Police Quest II - The Vengeance

Pooz

Power Struggle

Proflight

Pro Tennis Tour

Psion Chess

 

Red Alert : Europe

Red Alert : USA

Renaissance

Riddle & Rime's

Riskant!

Robert in The Fire Factory

Robotron 2084

Rocket Defense

Rody & Mastico serial

Runner's Revenge

 

Sargon III

Scapeghost

Schrott Invaders

Seastalker

Second World, The

Secret of Monkey Island, The

Shanghai

Sigma

Silicon Dreams - compilation - Snowball, Eden, Worm

Snake Pit 2

Sorceror's Appraisal, The

Space Quest - The Sarien Encounter

Space Quest II - Vohaul's Revenge

Space Quest III - The Pirates of Pestulon

Space Trek

Space War

Spacefighter Two

Spacola

Special Delivery

ST Checkers

Springer

Starblade

Starglider

Starglider II

Stone Age

STetris

Sumkuvit II

Suspect28

 

Tennis (High Res Version)

Tetris (Mirrorsoft)

Tetris - PD

Tex McPhilip - Road To Divinity

Time and Magik

Titan Find - Demo

Tonight the Shrieking Corpses Bleed

Tracker

 

Ultima II - Revenge of the Enchantress

Ultima III - Exodus

UMS

URI Quest

 

Vector Invasion

Vegas Craps

Vegas Gambler

Vermeer

Voodoo Girl Queen of the Darned

 

Wall Street Wizard

Wall$treet

Wallball

Wind Surf Willy

Winnie The Pooh ..

Wonderland

 

YAGC

Yuppi's Revenge

 

Zarge

Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders

Zork - The Undiscovered Underground

Zork I - The Great Underground Empire

Zork II - The Wizard of Frobozz

Zork III - The Dungeon Master

[+DarkLord]

Well, maybe have a subtitled heading for the text only games, because they are compatible?

 

Oh, aren't most of the Zork games text only too?

 

Thanks.

[+wood_jl]

Here is pretty complete list, with 269 titles - and I removed all text only adventures, as it is nonsense to list them here.

 

Great job with the list, ParanoidLittleMan!

 

269 titles! Nay-sayers, suck on that.

[ParanoidLittleMan]

Well, maybe have a subtitled heading for the text only games, because they are compatible?

 

Oh, aren't most of the Zork games text only too?

 

Thanks.

 

Right. I remove Zorks too. And let you to make txt only adv. list, so I can add it to main list - you are obviously more familiar with txt only games than we kids, which just learn to read

[+DarkLord]

Hahahaha, very funny!

[ParanoidLittleMan]

That was intended to be joke, but I still expect that list . Just pointed that most of people like some graphic too.

[macgoo]

I already tried many of the arcade games listed there (moon patrol, starglider, starglider 2 etc) and using multiple disk images and not a single one worked on any emulator I tried when you start it in mono.

 

You have a hell of a lot of adventures on there, fish/jinxter/myth/silicon dreams etc and a lot of RPG stuff too

[OBO]

@macgoo.

 

Forget about using them when they are on floppy, the crackers made changes most of the time (like intro screen) that prevents the games from running in ST-high.

 

AFAIK, only Ppera's adaptations retains the ability to work on mono screen.

[ParanoidLittleMan]

@macgoo.

Forget about using them when they are on floppy, the crackers made changes most of the time (like intro screen) that prevents the games from running in ST-high.

AFAIK, only Ppera's adaptations retains the ability to work on mono screen.

 

I disagree. Most of cracks will work in mono. Only in rare cases they removed mono related files.

But second statement may be true - I do mono support by hard disk adapts - although not from beginning, so some older ones may not work.

[OBO]

You forget about the "I add a nice intro screen with scrolltext & overscan when the game is started" issue.

[+DarkLord]

Can't speak for every title but many I have tried, (examples given Starglider 1 and 2) work just fine in mono on my STacy.

 

I'm running them from 2 and 4 gig SDcards via the Ultrasatan.

 

Sounds like its just an emulator problem?

[ParanoidLittleMan]

I'm sorry, but going into too much generalisation leads usually nowhere ...

 

If you want to say that cracks usually screw up mono playability, or miss mono files, give some examples.

Even some fancy intro, made only for color must not crash in mono mode - you will just see some garbage, but can go on.

 

Same stays for Stargliders: some cracks work even not on color system (on certain machines). Because region restrictions.

And it is not emulator problem for sure. Just problem of confusing things.

 

Honestly, I made this lists because beeing tired of usual shallow lists and guessings instead testings. And it took pretty much time.

 

People make most mistakes when try to get why something happens. With Atari games things are just complicated.

 

Too much really stoopid coding - like Player Manager (Anco) - original crashes after little play on 4MB machines. Just pitty.

[macgoo]

Problem is you can't have a mono AND colour monitor attached to the ST to swap willy nilly so using them just out of curiosity is a massive pain in the ass on an ST with two monitors on one desk, it's just not feasible at all to have that as a permanent set up for most people.

 

The intros don't stop the games I tried from working, if you know the game you want is number 3 on the menu you just press three and it dumps you back to the GEM desktop and you double click the icon to boot them so they should work. I also tried games where the only intro is like a boot block virus checker and it comes on the same number of disks (ie 1) as the original. Zip zilch nada nothing. It's a real shame for people who are just interested in seeing some mono arcade/action games.

[ParanoidLittleMan]

Some people had (and maybe still have) multinorm monitors capable for color and mono too. Then, many use emulators, and just want to see how it looks in mono. And few has only mono monitor currently.

On Falcon, TT you can set ST-high res (mono) on color monitors, and see how it looks. - Well, works mostly only after some patching in game and with special launcher.