Is it possible to install a 2.5" IDE hard drive inside an STF/STE?

[macgoo]

I kind of remember a company used to sell a kit for an internal IDE adaptor and brackets to fit a notebook hard drive inside the ST's case. I think it was from ICD?

 

Anyway is this the only way to do this or has someone got a different more modern way of using a HD within the case?

 

(not interested in SD/MMC type card solution)

[+DarkLord]

I think Sean (Ralcool) over at AtariForum is working on an internal storage solution (or has it).

 

He's also working on memory, HD floppy's, and accelerators.

 

You should follow his thread there:

 

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=18847

[ParanoidLittleMan]

I had it in old days at 1991. With self made IDE adapter (online DOCs available). Used some 80MB Conner drives and 170 MB IBM drives. Unfortunately, most of them went bad by time.

Don't know was it because of bad quality of those drives (Conner was bad, as is known), or PSU of 520 ST is not really good enough even for 2.5 disk. In any case, today I would not go on such thing, when 4 GB CF card costs some 10 Euros - 10 Euros for 4 GB man ! And no moving parts, no big PSU stress at power on (all hard disks pull a lot of power when motor spins up).

 

Your choice. There is enough place for 2.5 drive in 520 case.

 

P.S. ICD made only SCSI solutions, not IDE.

Edited July 17, 2012 by ParanoidLittleMan

[dark willow]

The stock PSU in the STs isn't that great. I think the output is sufficient (IIRC, about 80w) but the voltage isn't very stable, and there is pretty much no protection from spikes. The TT and Falcon ones are a bit better (and were designed to power hard drives from the start). If you are going to mount an internal drive, I would recommend putting in a DC-DC micro-PSU while you are at it - like these

[candle]

not exacly IDE, but here is my $0.02

 

http://spiflash.org/atari/ste/

 

that is, if i ever get to finnishing this...

[+Stephen]

Oh shit man - if you start doing ST stuff as well, I am gonna go broke!

[ParanoidLittleMan]

not exacly IDE, but here is my $0.02

 

http://spiflash.org/atari/ste/

 

that is, if i ever get to finnishing this...

 

Ops. This is something what may be interesting for STE users. And I know it for sure. If you solve timing problems with some CF cards, it will be great.

And maybe version with cable, so can put CF socket outside (or in case self, to may access outside).

According to pic, you use simple logic. I recommend to consider this: http://atari.8bitchip.info/astideTP.html

Mail me for more ...

[candle]

actually, it uses cpld + some buffers

[ParanoidLittleMan]

OK. And some more details - how it works currently ?

[simonsunnyboy]

not exacly IDE, but here is my $0.02

 

http://spiflash.org/atari/ste/

 

that is, if i ever get to finnishing this...

 

This looks very interesting. How does it fit into the STE? Into the CPU socket or where? Is any soldering required?

[calimero]

not exacly IDE, but here is my $0.02

 

http://spiflash.org/atari/ste/

 

that is, if i ever get to finnishing this...

this would be great! I like it becouse it is internal!

[tjlazer]

The Amiga scene seems to have all the cool stuff. Internal IDE, RAM, Turbo cards, etc... Wish there were stuff like this for the ST (atleast a RAM and IDE card) I know there is the Zeus project that is said to be Amiga and ST compatible... Hope it happens.

[+DarkLord]

The Amiga scene seems to have all the cool stuff. Internal IDE, RAM, Turbo cards, etc... Wish there were stuff like this for the ST (atleast a RAM and IDE card) I know there is the Zeus project that is said to be Amiga and ST compatible... Hope it happens.

 

I know its still at the drawing board stage, (well, actually quite a bit beyond that) but Sean (Ralcools') and Exxos's various mods over at

AtariForum are showing great promise:

 

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=18847

[ParanoidLittleMan]

The Amiga scene seems to have all the cool stuff. Internal IDE, RAM, Turbo cards, etc... Wish there were stuff like this for the ST (atleast a RAM and IDE card) I know there is the Zeus project that is said to be Amiga and ST compatible... Hope it happens.

 

People usually forgets something very important: Amiga has real expansion bus, unlike ST(E). STE is only better because has RAM sockets. So, any CPU, IDE, RAM and similar upgrade needs serious soldering - unless you solve it with some intermediate sockets (like this IDE adapters, still unknown state of development, only pic shown).

 

There are already projects online, like Popsel board for STF machines + IDE for Mega STE via VME connector. But simply, not possible to do some universal solution. With good CPU bus expansion port it would be much better. Only Mega ST has it, and I have on my site complete docs (SCH, PCB) IDE adapter, for instance.

So, I would say that there are many projects for Atati ST serial, but it is not easy to follow all it . And I guess that Satandisks are so popular, despite high price exactly because troubles with internal solutions.

[pixelmischief]

Goddamnit Candle. You are a fucking monster.