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I was curious how people and if people classify the rarity of Homebrews, and other recent productions. Even the ones that can me made to order are still severely more "rare" than many of the R8,R9 carts. BUT obvioulsy they are not worth more than what a new one costs.

So, is there a comparable rarity, especially for the "Out of production" Homebrews or "Limited"/"Numbered". And where does Boulder Dash fit in?

The homebrews I have are

  • Boulder Dash
  • Halo
  • EMR
  • Jack and the Beanstalk
  • Harmony (I consider it a Homebrew, it is a new board that runs a unique program)
  • my Nontendo R.O.B.

and limited repros like

  • Turbo
  • Powerlords

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Ooh, just totalling everthing up, I broke 300 unique cart titles! (counting the above list 306) All NTSC, non pirate U.S.

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Keep it quiet... We're slowly building a fortune in rare homebrews here. ;)

 

But I think the problem with homebrews is related to rarity and originality relationship.

 

What I mean is if you can with modern technology make carts with avaible roms, what's the sense of rarity?

 

 

But if AtariAge stops making carts in the future ... :sad: :_(

I think all carts made by AA will be much, much more expensive.

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Ah crap I was banking on my retirement fund on my Boulder Dash investment... maybe in 2044 things will be different?? Then even mentioning the word Atari is the equivalant to the XXX movie quote "Bitches Come!"

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Boulder Dash has inbuilt hardware copy protection. I'm informed that it will be difficult if not impossible to copy the cart.

So, those 250 are pretty much all there will ever be of that particular title.

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*SMASH* you mean 249.

 

 

yeah i doubit it. i'd smash my face against a wall before i did something stupid to my copy.

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Well, I suppose, Boulder Dash is a special case as it's a properly licensed game and therefore not really a homebrew. So, even before release, it was going to be a pretty rare title.

 

I wonder where Boulder Dash will fit in to the greater collecting/archinving picture in years to come...

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Boulder Dash has inbuilt hardware copy protection. I'm informed that it will be difficult if not impossible to copy the cart.

So, those 250 are pretty much all there will ever be of that particular title.

I can't claim to have a proper binary of Boulder Dash unless you'd care to verify it, but it wasn't too difficult to get "something" out of the cartridge with my ROM dumper. It produces the same binary every time, which seems to play fine on Stella. So unless you have some really sneaky copy protection that changes the binary when it detects an attempt to dump the ROM so that the game would fail on higher levels, your copy protection isn't working too well.

 

But it's a good thing that I had a look at the binary, because now I can inform you that you deleted one blank character too many in the last sentence of the copyright message when you changed it from the demo version to the release version. And knowing that Thomas and you are both perfectionists, I'm sure we'll now get a new release of Boulder Dash which fixes this and add all the other things you wished you had done differently after the game got released. ;)

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Boulder Dash has inbuilt hardware copy protection. I'm informed that it will be difficult if not impossible to copy the cart.

So, those 250 are pretty much all there will ever be of that particular title.

I can't claim to have a proper binary of Boulder Dash unless you'd care to verify it, but it wasn't too difficult to get "something" out of the cartridge with my ROM dumper. It produces the same binary every time, which seems to play fine on Stella. So unless you have some really sneaky copy protection that changes the binary when it detects an attempt to dump the ROM so that the game would fail on higher levels, your copy protection isn't working too well.

 

But it's a good thing that I had a look at the binary, because now I can inform you that you deleted one blank character too many in the last sentence of the copyright message when you changed it from the demo version to the release version. And knowing that Thomas and you are both perfectionists, I'm sure we'll now get a new release of Boulder Dash which fixes this and add all the other things you wished you had done differently after the game got released. ;)

 

 

 

Mmmh. I'll have to ask Fred for my money back! I'm sure he was sure it couldn't be copied.

OK, so please don't redistribute. That would be bad.

Cheers

A

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I can inform you that you deleted one blank character too many in the last sentence of the copyright message when you changed it from the demo version to the release version.

 

Eckhard is quite correct! There's a missing space in the embedded notice. He will be first in line for the lawsuits sure to follow.

Al, please initiate a product-recall. We can't have something out there that's not perfect.

Cheers

A

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Mmmh. I'll have to ask Fred for my money back! I'm sure he was sure it couldn't be copied.

OK, so please don't redistribute. That would be bad.

I'm as much a German perfectionist as Thomas is. So of course I would never distribute a known imperfect binary.

 

But what do you mean with product-recall? I thought Albert has always wanted to do a world trip anyway. And since Melody carts can be reprogrammed without opening them, this would be the perfect opportunity for him to visit members of AA from all around the world and update the BD cartridges with the fixed binary right in their homes.

 

To keep the costs low we could declare Al to be part of the programming device and mail him from one AA member to the next in a nice big box. But since BD cartridges were held up in customs for quite a while in some countries, we should first find out how many packaging peanuts we need to feed him a day so we can pack enough for him to make sure he won't bite anyone when they open the parcel. ;)

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Do the release of the unreleased Atari titles count? I think Al can't sell them anymore because of legal reasons. I have Bugs Bunny, Realsports Basketball, Saboteur, and Snow White. Each of these were really limited.

 

Phil

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Do the release of the unreleased Atari titles count? I think Al can't sell them anymore because of legal reasons. I have Bugs Bunny, Realsports Basketball, Saboteur, and Snow White. Each of these were really limited.

 

What's the deal with those titles?

 

Peace,

 

Chip

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