+karri Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Soldering flex ribbons to circuit boards is probably out of reach for ordinary mortals. I even get stuck with TSOP packages nowadays. My eyesight is not what it used to be. -- Karri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetUK Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) Agreed, Lynx 1 might be a bit tricky. I am sure I could do it if anyone wanted me to do theirs but I suspect it wouldnt be that easy. It's one thing soldering a TSOP, its another soldering a ribbon to a PCB. other than on a DVD assembly ive never seen a ribbon soldered onto a board like this, they nearly are always are socketed. Edited September 16, 2012 by GadgetUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 What about fitting a socket of some sort? Or is that physically difficult given the space inside the Lynx I? Well, you know, even if this is not possible or practical in the Lynx I, it's still very cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 It could be possible to: a) solder directly to exposed VIAs near LCD connectors (shown clearly on closeup #3 of MrBland's photos (THANK YOU!!)) b) solder ZIF connector there for 1.25mm pitch FFC/FPC cable - it might be hard to get one that isn't through-hole though - this kind of connector (at that pitch) usually have zig-zag patter of pins as on lynx ii if no connector can be fitted, you'll be looking at soldering 15 wires directly to lynx mother board - not too many, but still not pretty thing to do there is a third option, but costs might be prohibiting - there are type of pcb that was originally used for connecting that pcb -its called flex pcb, and can be made to any size and shape, problem is i never did such pcb, so i don't know the cost, and they aren't ment for prototypes removing original flex to get rid of the lcd module will be another story right now, i'm rather leaning toward making two separate boards (for lynx and lynx ii) rather than one-fits-all solution as i can't see how i could get them both on single one since mechanical costrains are so diffrent one another thing is getting 26-way FFC/FPC cable - in Poland i can get 28-ways ones and they would need to be trimmed by hand (simple task but still not pretty, and getting it to right size so it wouldn't move inside original connector might be tricky) and China factories accept orders of 1000pcs or more in the end there will be a demand factor - might be that there won't be many modyfying original lynx, and project for this one won't enter the production maybe i should do a poll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmetal88 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 It could be possible to: a) solder directly to exposed VIAs near LCD connectors (shown clearly on closeup #3 of MrBland's photos (THANK YOU!!)) b) solder ZIF connector there for 1.25mm pitch FFC/FPC cable - it might be hard to get one that isn't through-hole though - this kind of connector (at that pitch) usually have zig-zag patter of pins as on lynx ii if no connector can be fitted, you'll be looking at soldering 15 wires directly to lynx mother board - not too many, but still not pretty thing to do there is a third option, but costs might be prohibiting - there are type of pcb that was originally used for connecting that pcb -its called flex pcb, and can be made to any size and shape, problem is i never did such pcb, so i don't know the cost, and they aren't ment for prototypes removing original flex to get rid of the lcd module will be another story right now, i'm rather leaning toward making two separate boards (for lynx and lynx ii) rather than one-fits-all solution as i can't see how i could get them both on single one since mechanical costrains are so diffrent one another thing is getting 26-way FFC/FPC cable - in Poland i can get 28-ways ones and they would need to be trimmed by hand (simple task but still not pretty, and getting it to right size so it wouldn't move inside original connector might be tricky) and China factories accept orders of 1000pcs or more in the end there will be a demand factor - might be that there won't be many modyfying original lynx, and project for this one won't enter the production maybe i should do a poll? I only have a Lynx II, so that would be the one I'd go for. As for the flex cable, I'm also having trouble finding 26-conductor versions, so I'm not sure what to say, there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Lynx I is very rare compared to Lynx II. Would it make sense to just do the Lynx II and if it is possible have some instructions for hard core modders to solder it into a Lynx I. I have a Lynx I with a very good LCD. But I have a few Lynx II's and my development Lynx has a fading LCD so I would probably only want to get a better screen to that one. -- Karri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetUK Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I agree, it should primarily be aimed at Lynx 2 with instructions for advanced 'solderers' to fit / fudge into a Lynx 1. There are way more Lynx 2's and from what ive seen the Lynx 2 LCD seems to fail a lot more than the Lynx 1 LCD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael David Morsette Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If something for the Lynx I is produced I will definately try it out, but I agree with everyone else that producing just for the II makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixeljunkie Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 this is so exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matashen Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 A Flex PCB should not be a problem. If you have a PCB Design i can order it. If you can say a size and layers i can calculate the price. Regards Matthias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 really? lets say it would fit 60x60mm square (duble L shaped something), but if it is an option, i'll work with that idea a bit more to reduce the size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matashen Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 fast calculated - not the exact price for flex board by 60x60mmm one Layer 50pcs 9,-€ 30pcs 12,-€ two layer 50pcs 14,-€ 30pcs 18,-€ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 thanks! i'll get to this back when i have final design! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 wait, this is 9 or 12 euro a piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
108 Stars Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 If you buy 50, it's 9 Euro a piece; if you buy only 30, it's 12 Euro a piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 my target price is 60-70usd for whole device, so this is no-go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matashen Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 OK, than forget the expensiv flex-pcb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjaukifa Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Responding to this as I'm now able to get updates on this topic, can't wait for the LCD info to come along! Any updates on the project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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