Thunderbird Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 That reminds me, does anyone out there know who owns the most Catboxes? I'm looking for the record holder here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 That's a good question. I have two of them and if I remember correctly Randy has three of them. That's the most I have ever heard of someone having. Does anyone know how many Catboxes were made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagMod Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 That reminds me, does anyone out there know who owns the most Catboxes? I'm looking for the record holder here! Someone at JagFest '98 brought eight catboxes with eight AirCars. JagMod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Someone at JagFest '98 brought eight catboxes with eight AirCars.JagMod Who ever that was must have a lot of money . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted February 6, 2003 Author Share Posted February 6, 2003 Hello again! well, here is my step-by-step report No."2" of yesterdays night but please let me tell you the following few words first: I'm used to open a directory by double-clicking with the left mousebutton onto the desktop-icon belonging to it. And this in fact doesn't work with the JUGS CD !!!!!! I own a half years old new computer with Microsoft XP home edition. To open the JUGS CD and watch its content it is necessary to klick on it with the RIGHT mousebutton and selecting "Open". This was absolute new to me. I got it open by accident (mere chance). The BSgold package/wrapping and its scope of supply is good but not perfect I would say. I miss something like a "getting started notice" in a printed manner which contains the following most important and essential information: 1. the JUGS CD is intended for use with your Wintel-PC 2. open its directory with the right MB and select "open" This would prevent frustrating and time-wasting experiments ... this should be a suggestion for improvement to Thunderbird for the next round of BSgold production?! ----------------------------------------------- OK, here we go: - 1 - Finally, I got the JUGS CD directory open and copied all files to my harddisc. - 2 - I printed out all *.txt files and read them carefully. I read that *.html file and all the amazing *.pdf files, too. Hey, what a wonderful job you did, Mr. T-Bird ... now I can imagine your awesome efforts/labor/labour to complete a running videogame ... very impressing! - 3 - I set up my Jaguar and connected both systems together. - 4 - I rebooted my PC and powered the Jaguar on. - 5 - Then I did a reset of the memory in BSgold and typed in the access code again. The Jaguar voice confirms with "awesome". - 6 - Afterwards I did the Keypad combination code to reach the baudrate settings. I chose the low speed 9600 Baud - 7 - Then I decided to run the jugs.exe ... ... ... ... but it don't want to run. There only appears a new black MS DOS window on my screen for about 1 second which closes by itself... - 8 - I stopped further experiments and powered all systems off. I decided to go to bed and sleep for a while ... - 9 - Now I'm here again and don't know what to do. It seems my Windows XP don't want to speak to the Jaguar ... it's a pity! Thanx for your kindly reply in advance Greetinx Micky PS: I have three Catboxes - 1 is busy and in use and 2 unopened totally ... to be always arm in future ... I have one more complete Jaguar system, too ... totally unopened and original packed ... yes, I'm a full-blooded Jaguar collector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 >I'm used to open a directory by double-clicking >with the left mousebutton onto the desktop-icon >belonging to it. And this in fact doesn't work >with the JUGS CD !!!!!! I own a half years old >new computer with Microsoft XP home edition. >To open the JUGS CD and watch its content it i>s necessary to klick on it with the RIGHT >mousebutton and selecting "Open". This was >absolute new to me. I got it open by accident >(mere chance). The CD is designed to run automatically when inserted into the PC drive. By default Windows will "Autoplay" a CD when inserted if it it configured to do so. There's a setting in windows somewhere that you must make to turn OFF this feature, and when you do that it will not run and you must open it manually. Right-Clicking and selecting "Open" is about 1 of 4 ways to open a CD manually, and is a standard method of opening a drive. >The BSgold package/wrapping and its scope of >supply is good but not perfect I would say. >I miss something like a "getting started >notice" in a printed manner which contains >the following most important and essential >information: >1. the JUGS CD is intended for use with your >Wintel-PC This information is on our Website under "system requirements" or something like that. >2. open its directory with the right MB and >select "open" >This would prevent frustrating and time-wasting >experiments ... It should run automatically, so you are the first person to have this trouble. And the JUGS CD has been on the market for almost 3 years. Nobody ever said this before. >I printed out all *.txt files and read them >carefully. I read that *.html file and all the >amazing *.pdf files, too. Hey, what a wonderful >job you did, Mr. T-Bird ... now I can imagine >your awesome efforts/labor/labour to complete >a running videogame ... very impressing! Thanks. It is a lot of work, and perhaps something more could have been done with JUGS help. But it's hard to cover everything. >Then I decided to run the jugs.exe ... >... >... >... >but it don't want to run. There only appears a >new black MS DOS window on my screen for about >1 second which closes by itself... I don't have the doscumentation with me. but it does say in several places that if you run the jugs.exe directly you have to run it from a command line prompt and input the run settings manually. If you want to run in an automatic fashion you have to run one of the batch files (ending it ".bat") This is explained in detail in the HTML documentation. Hopefully, this will help. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted February 6, 2003 Author Share Posted February 6, 2003 Thunderbird wrote: >I don't have the doscumentation with me. but >it does say in several places that if you run the >jugs.exe directly you have to run it from a >command line prompt and input the run settings >manually. If you want to run in an automatic >fashion you have to run one of the batch files >(ending it ".bat") This is explained in detail in the >HTML documentation. Thanx for your kindly help, T-Bird I did it in three different ways: 1. double-clicking on jugs.exe ---> no success (closing its window by itself) 2. starting "MS DOS Eingabeaufforderung" and changing directories to reach jugs.exe ---> no success (closing its window by itself) 3. starting "MS DOS Eingabeaufforderung" again and changing directories to reach *.bat files in directory "Freeware" ---> no success (closing its window by itself) .... and of course I know, I have to change the COM settings in the *.bat file to my needs (and I did this with the notepad editor) Again, I use Win XP home! Maybe it doesn't want to speak with JUGS ... I have to look for an older computer. Maybe I can find an IBM 286 or 386 in the trash - I hope this is old enough Thanx for your help Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 does jugs require direct hardware access to the com ports? if so then XP may be the problem. Win2K and XP don't allow programs to access hardware directly and thus a driver is required. I am no big Win coder so I don't know how this is done. Will jugs run from a DOS boot? (does XP have a DOS boot??). I guess if JUGS can be used under Win2K that it should work fine in XP. I think BJL has problems under Win2K XP for the same reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 DOS programs will close automatically (if they are run from within windows) when they finish running. The JUGS loader, from what T-Bird has said, needs command-line options, so I guess when you run it with no options (same as running it from a windows directory browse) it shows the available options and then quits. Find 'command prompt' wherever it lives in WinXP (or try typing 'command' in Start/Run and hitting enter), change to the JUGS directory and do it from there. It will work this way Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 on win2K to get a dos box you type CMD into the run dialog.. I would guess it's the same for WinXP incase command doesn't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 I still use windows 98, but when I use JUGS, I just click on the start button, select the "run" option under the start button directory, a command line prompt opens up, then you just type in all the necessary commands right there, example: C:loaderjugs -com=com1 -baud=19200 -file=c:demosmusic.bin -addr=5000 -run=3 Jugs window opens up, and transmission begins if everything is ready on the Jag end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 1. double-clicking on jugs.exe ---> no success (closing its window by itself) 2. starting "MS DOS Eingabeaufforderung" and changing directories to reach jugs.exe ---> no success (closing its window by itself) 3. starting "MS DOS Eingabeaufforderung" again and changing directories to reach *.bat files in directory "Freeware" ---> no success (closing its window by itself) Umm.... I've never used XP, nor will I ever, since its the least secure OS ever writen, as any 14 year old script kiddie will tell you, but... dos windows dont close themselves. If you open a dos window, using a link to a "command promt" or running cmd, command.com or whatever its called in xp... it wont close until you type exit or close the window. If however, your opening the dos box, using cd to navigate to the right directory, and then switching windows and double clicking the exe, it'll create a new window which will close after the program exits. Alternatively if all else fails, I'd be happy to email you a copy of good old MS DOS 6.22, I've got image files for the 3 floppies it originally was sold on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 does jugs require direct hardware access to the com ports? if so then XP may be the problem. Win2K and XP don't allow programs to access hardware directly and thus a driver is required. I am no big Win coder so I don't know how this is done. Will jugs run from a DOS boot? (does XP have a DOS boot??). I guess if JUGS can be used under Win2K that it should work fine in XP. I think BJL has problems under Win2K XP for the same reasons. JUGS works just fine under Windows XP. I just was doing some software testing and decided to see if there was any truth to this vicious rumor that JUGS no longer works! Suffice it to say that JUGS works great under XP! Now... is there any truth to the rumor that BJL won't work with XP??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted February 13, 2003 Author Share Posted February 13, 2003 Well then! Let me please know what you have done under Windows XP step-by-step Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Well then!Let me please know what you have done under Windows XP step-by-step Micky 1) Connect JUGS Device to Jaglink with Jaglink cable 2) Plug Jaglink into Jaguar 3) Plug BattleSphere or BattleSphere Gold into Jaguar 4) Power up Jaguar 5) Navigate menus to the Game Play Options Screen 6) Enter secret code to activate JUGS (printed on CD face) 7) Press JUGS activation keys (also printed on CD face) 7) Copy All files from CD-Drive to C:JUGS (Not required, but makes things faster) Open C:JUGSfreeware 9) Double-Click on any file with ".BAT" on the end 10) Wait for program to auto-load 11) Have fun playing freeware game 12) Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Now... is there any truth to the rumor that BJL won't work with XP??? Quite possibly. Like LV said, direct hardware access is frowned upon by the nice ppl at M$. I wouldn't know, 'cos I don't use it Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted February 14, 2003 Author Share Posted February 14, 2003 Thunderbird wrote: >(...) >10) Wait for program to auto-load >11) Have fun playing freeware game >12) Enjoy! As mentioned several times above this doesn't work - maybe not in general but at my home-pc it doesn't because of the following things: 1. I don't use a Jag-Link. I use a Cat-Box and its RS232 Interface and a 2x female DB9 null-modem cable/wire 2. The DB9 COM Port of my home-PC is located at the PCI-Bus 3. If I make a double-click on the corresponding *.bat file the MSDOS command-line Window will appear only for a short time and will close immediately I think the main reason why it's not running is the PCI based COM port of my Wintel-PC. The JUGS Infowebsite @ battlesphere.com tells you something about troubles using a PCI based COM Port. ---> citation/excerpt/quotation: "(...) but be aware that some unusual models of PCs or Laptops have proprietary ports or ports based on PCI or PC card interfaces, and will not work with JUGS." Greetinx Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted February 14, 2003 Author Share Posted February 14, 2003 look @ my screenshot: http://www.nice-entertainment.de/sulu-expr...ss/jugsshot.jpg Greetinx Micky http://www.sulu-express.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 1. I don't use a Jag-Link. I use a Cat-Box and its RS232 Interface and a 2x female DB9 null-modem cable/wire This is not a problem, as stated before. 2. The DB9 COM Port of my home-PC is located at the PCI-Bus I think the main reason why it's not running is the PCI based COM port of my Wintel-PC. The JUGS Infowebsite @ battlesphere.com tells you something about troubles using a PCI based COM Port. ---> citation/excerpt/quotation: "(...) but be aware that some unusual models of PCs or Laptops have proprietary ports or ports based on PCI or PC card interfaces, and will not work with JUGS." It sounds like you just answered your own question. If you can move the JUGS to another non-PCI port then you should be able to run it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted February 14, 2003 Author Share Posted February 14, 2003 Thunderbird wrote: >If you can move the JUGS to another non-PCI port >then you should be able to run it. but there is no other DB9 COM Port, I only have 1. All the other ports are USB and some other fuck... OK. I rule off it. But what about using an ATARI Falcon030 with JUGS? Is there any chance? Can I use a MSDOS Emulator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Thunderbird wrote: >If you can move the JUGS to another non-PCI port >then you should be able to run it. but there is no other DB9 COM Port, I only have 1. All the other ports are USB and some other fuck... OK. I rule off it. But what about using an ATARI Falcon030 with JUGS? Is there any chance? Can I use a MSDOS Emulator? You keep saying you have no other DB9 Com Port... you mean this PC only has one COM port? Or does it have one on a DB25 connector? Or an RJ11 Connector? If that is the case then you can easily use an adapter to convert to DB9. What the heck kind of computer is that you have? What's the model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.skid Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Maybe it a silly question, but: you mean you have COM 1 in your pc? Or you have one of those new notebooks that are 'com-less'? (without serial ports) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Maybe it a silly question, but: you mean you have COM 1 in your pc?Or you have one of those new notebooks that are 'com-less'? (without serial ports) He said that the COM port was on the PCI bus. This tells me that it must be on a PCI card installed in the PC. If it's not then it's a really bizarre design. I've seen motherboards with only one COM port DB9 connector if they have built-in Video.... they put the Video Out where COM2 would be on the ATX back panel. But in such cases they always would put a little header on the MoBo for including a second DB9 located elsewhere in the chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.skid Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Maybe it a silly question, but: you mean you have COM 1 in your pc?Or you have one of those new notebooks that are 'com-less'? (without serial ports) He said that the COM port was on the PCI bus. This tells me that it must be on a PCI card installed in the PC. If it's not then it's a really bizarre design. I've seen motherboards with only one COM port DB9 connector if they have built-in Video.... they put the Video Out where COM2 would be on the ATX back panel. But in such cases they always would put a little header on the MoBo for including a second DB9 located elsewhere in the chassis. Sorry, I misunderstood the PCI card problem. But, like you wrote, new MoBos have all DB9 COM, one or two depend on the built in VGA. But never a DB25. IIRC, some Packard Bell models have only USB port, also for keyboard and mouse (and without PS2 connectors, COM but with LPT). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted February 17, 2003 Author Share Posted February 17, 2003 Thunderbird wrote: >(...) >If that is the case then you can easily use an >adapter to convert to DB9. Here you can see my "MBO e-Force 415" ccomputer: http://www.pcwelt.de/tests/hardware-tests/...notebook/22122/ Use Babelfish to translate to English (...) 4 x PCI; 1 x CNR/PCI; 1 x AGP; (...) 1 x parallel; 1 x seriell; 1 x PS/2-Maus; 2 x USB; 1 x TV-out; 1 x S/P-DIF-Ausgang; 1 x Gameport (...) Thanx to everyone for help Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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