Atari 8-bit or 8-bit Atari?

[fox]

English is my second language and I wonder if I should write "Atari 8-bit" or "8-bit Atari" or both forms are acceptable?

 

This forum is called "Atari 8-Bit Computers", so I assume that's correct. Is "8-bit Atari Computers" incorrect?

 

"Music of an Atari 8-bit computer" is "Atari 8-bit music" or "8-bit Atari music" ?

 

Thank you.

 

[Keatah]

Atari 8-bit

 

 

There's really no right or wrong, but Atari 8-bit is used much more often.

Edited October 28, 2012 by Keatah

[Rybags]

Both is OK, but "Atari 8-bit" probably more appropriate.

 

It's like saying "V8 Ford" or "Ford V8" - for some things the descriptive before the brand name works others it doesn't e.g. "McDonalds Cheeseburgers" would be ridiculous the other way around.

[Sub(Function(:))]

I don't think McDonalds Cheeseburgers wouldn't work the other way around because it's in possessive case. It should be written "McDonald's Cheeseburgers" (note the missing apostrophe, in your example), atari 8bit isn't (just noun adjective).

 

However I agree in the atari case both ways work fine for me

[atari8warez]

This may help

 

But, trying to figure out English is an exercise in frustration. For some things there seems to be no logical rules, best way to learn it is by doing a lot of practice.

 

Now someone tell me please:

 

Why?

 

Candle is pronounced as Kandel (and not written as Kandle) but

Citron as Sitron

Cemetery as Semetary, but

Curator as Kurator

 

also why the letter C is pronounced as letter K and not, say, letter T in above cases...!!

 

is there someting special about i, e, u and a that follows C? Maybe the reason I don't get it is because I never learnt (learned!) proper grammer rules...

Edited October 28, 2012 by atari8warez

[drac030]

c before a, o, u, consonants and on the end of a word is pronounced like k.

 

c before e, i, y is pronounced like s.

 

This rule comes from French, where English has borrowed a lot of words from, apparently together with some spelling rules. And French was in turn influenced by medieval Latin. There are exceptions as always (Celtic pronounced Keltik).

 

As to the topic: isn't "Atari 8-bit" two adjectives with the obvious part (sc. "computer") missing?

Edited October 28, 2012 by drac030

[atari8warez]

c before a, o, u, consonants and on the end of a word is pronounced like k.

 

c before e, i, y is pronounced like s.

 

This rule comes from French, where English has borrowed a lot of words from, apparently together with some spelling rules. And French was in turn influenced by medieval Latin. There are exceptions as always (Celtic pronounced Keltik).

 

As to the topic: isn't "Atari 8-bit" two adjectives with the obvious part (sc. "computer") missing?

 

Ok that's what I was suspecting, but do you know why it is pronounced like K and not something else... and you see even if we know the rules exceptions are there to fool you

 

And Konrad, I tried changing the circular sector scheme in AspeQt but ended up with another kind of problem, however this is not the right place to discuss it, I will post a message on AspeQt thread later.

Edited October 28, 2012 by atari8warez

[drac030]

c is pronounced like k, because it has always been pronounced so. This is the original sound associated with this letter, since some 5th century BCE or so.

[Marius]

This is a cool subject. Honest!

 

One step aside:

 

Some people say: Atari 1050 -> Atari Ten-Fifty.

Others say: Atari 1050 -> Atari Onethousandfifty (or Atari Thousandfifty)

 

Some people: SIO2PC -> SIO-TO-PC

Others say: ES-I-O-To-PC

 

I always talk about Atari 8bit... even to people who doesnt have a clue about these fine computers haha.

 

Yesterday I asked my neigbour of 90 years old wheter she is still active with Atari 8bit or not

[Fox-1 / mnx]

Yesterday I asked my neigbour of 90 years old wheter she is still active with Atari 8bit or not

 

And she replied with "I don't like all that modern stuff" ?

[Sub(Function(:))]

There are exceptions as always (Celtic pronounced Keltik).

 

One being if "Celtic" is referring to a football team. Then it's "seltik"

[WizWor]

English is my second language and I wonder if I should write "Atari 8-bit" or "8-bit Atari" or both forms are acceptable?

 

This forum is called "Atari 8-Bit Computers", so I assume that's correct. Is "8-bit Atari Computers" incorrect?

 

"Music of an Atari 8-bit computer" is "Atari 8-bit music" or "8-bit Atari music" ?

 

Thank you.

Both are fine. In both cases, 'Atari' and '8-bit' are adjectives describing an implicit computer, so order does not matter.

[Jetboot Jack]

Some people say: Atari 1050 -> Atari Ten-Fifty.

Others say: Atari 1050 -> Atari Onethousandfifty (or Atari Thousandfifty)

 

The Others are WRONG

[a8isa1]

English is my second language and I wonder if I should write "Atari 8-bit" or "8-bit Atari" or both forms are acceptable?

 

This forum is called "Atari 8-Bit Computers", so I assume that's correct. Is "8-bit Atari Computers" incorrect?

 

"Music of an Atari 8-bit computer" is "Atari 8-bit music" or "8-bit Atari music" ?

 

Thank you.

I would say that since "8-bit" is used as a quantifier/qualifier. It is a compound adjective and thus it appears before the noun in the English language.

 

In the first example, since "Atari" is being used as the proper noun, then "8-bit Atari" is correct.

 

If you are using "Atari" as another qualifier for the noun, "computer", then "Atari 8-bit computer" and "8-bit Atari computer" are both correct.

 

BTW, I only hope that I am correct. I do not know that I am

Edited October 30, 2012 by a8isa1