uNi73 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I just tried the Polling files (still don't know the difference to the Interrupt ones) and everything works fine! Awesome, Stella with original Atari Paddles Thanks again for the fast delivery and the great price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 My pleasure! Can you post some pictures of your setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Difference between polling and interrupt are the way the adapter read the paddles. Some games work best with one or some with the other. I know for sure Breakout works better with Interrupt. But difference is barely noticeable. I'm a freak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 From Cyber Monday, December 1st to December 25th, we offer a price drop on the USB joystick adapter! 27$ USD for one and 47$ for a two-pack. Seasons greetings from the Retronic Design team! http://www.retronicdesign.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akator Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 ^ sweet. These are at the top of my Christmas list. Maybe Santa will remember me this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akator Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Just noticed that Vectrex controller support has been removed. Is there any chance it will return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Just noticed that Vectrex controller support has been removed. Is there any chance it will return? Nah... This one is a bugger! The pot impedance is way too close the ADC tolerance of the uC. I tried many ways but still no correct reading. I dropped it. Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akator Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) ^ Thanks for the explanation. With everything this adapter does, no Vectrex support isn't a deal breaker Edited December 10, 2014 by akator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Did a little firmware correction for the Bally Astrocade controller. It now works properly for the controller pot on top! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djour Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Bringing this thread back to life. Does anyone have real world experience with these adapters? They seem to be the answer to all of my Retropi needs as far as using Intellivision, Colecovision, Atari Paddles, and Atari driving controllers. I'd just like to get some recent feedback on the product and the seller. Thanks http://www.retronicdesign.com/en/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I'll have to order one of these. Wish they were sold on the spot at Portland Retrogaming Expo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I'll have to order one of these. Wish they were sold on the spot at Portland Retrogaming Expo. -Sigh- I whish I had time to go at one of these expos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Bringing this thread back to life. Does anyone have real world experience with these adapters? They seem to be the answer to all of my Retropi needs as far as using Intellivision, Colecovision, Atari Paddles, and Atari driving controllers. I'd just like to get some recent feedback on the product and the seller. Thanks http://www.retronicdesign.com/en/ Hello there! The USB joystick adapter is now entering it's 8th year of operation. More alive than ever, it's now supporting even more type of joysticks and controllers; Atari 2600 Joystick Atari 7800 Joystick (2 buttons) Atari analog Paddle (2 players) Atari driving controller Atari video touch pad Keyboard Amstrad Joystick (3 buttons) Amiga Joystick Amiga Mouse / Trackball (2 and 3 buttons) Atari ST Mouse / Trackball (2 buttons) Commodore 64 Joystick Commodore CD32 Joypad (7 buttons) Intellivision Touch pad (16 direction disc and 15 buttons) Intellivision Flashback Touch pad (16 direction disc and 15 buttons) ColecoVision Touch pad and Super Action Controller (16 buttons + spinner) Coleco Gemini Joystick & Paddle (Hybrid controller, also compatible with Sears console) MSX Joystick (2 buttons) Sega Genesis Joypad (3 and 6 buttons) Sega Master System Joypad Sega Multi-Tap Adapter (4 players) 3DO (Panasonic) Joypad TI99/4/4a Joystick FM Towns/Marty Joypad Famiclone (NES clone) Joypad Odyssey2 controller Fairchild channel F controller Bally/Astrocade controller RedOctane Dance pads (6 buttons DB9 version) ZX Spectrum Interface 2 Joysticks There is now a huge community that use and share its knowledge about this adapter, used on many playforms; PC Mac Linux Raspberry PI (retropie and others) Amiga NG ... We're working on other retro products but this joystick adapter is (and will remain) our main product. A GUI updater in java is actually in developpment. Cheers! Edited October 26, 2017 by Nitz1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Bringing this thread back to life. Does anyone have real world experience with these adapters? They seem to be the answer to all of my Retropi needs as far as using Intellivision, Colecovision, Atari Paddles, and Atari driving controllers. I'd just like to get some recent feedback on the product and the seller. Thanks http://www.retronicdesign.com/en/ I use it with an Intellivision controller and it works perfectly. The seller is a good guy as well, very responsive. The only thing is if you want to use different types of controllers using different firmwares, you'd have to flash the adapter each time. The best part is all the firmware source code is available so if someone wants to write some sort of multicontroller switching firmware they could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djour Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 The only thing is if you want to use different types of controllers using different firmwares, you'd have to flash the adapter each time. Does this mean flash it every time I want to switch back and forth, or just the first time I use it for each controller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 You can only have one firmware installed at a time. I don't see why someone couldn't write a firmware that combines a few of them with some mechanism to switch between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Yes, indeed, firmware has to be reflashed each time for different controller. All firmwares are open source. They can be modified easily. I already thought about combining some easy ones that does not require detection and are not conflicting each other. But many of them does not have their power pin or ground pin at the same location. This is a real problem for multi-controller firmware. Two solutions then; - A complete flashing solution integrated in a GUI with all firmwares (like the KADE project) - A custom software interacting with the USB adapter that change its behavior I chose the fist solution, which would be more standard and compatible with many OS plus more evolutive. I started the developpement of this solution at the beginning of this present year. I'm working in parallel few other projects, most for the commodore Amiga scene. Anybody a crack in Java? Extra hands always appreciated Edited November 1, 2017 by Nitz1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I know what you mean about different ground pins. Would it be possible that at the time the adapter is plugged in a unique button or controller direction is held that would identify the controller and then the firmware program assigns the ground pin accordingly. Combining a few this way like Atari/sega joystick, coleco vision, intellivision, atari paddle would be helpfull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djour Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I don't want to assume what others mainly use this for. But I wonder how many are like myself and will use it for the big 4 that don't have USB alternatives already available: 2600 paddles, 2600 driving, Intellivision, Colecovision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) That means a complex detection scheme. This detection algorithm would need to occur only once, at the USB plug-in time. Then, to change the controller, the USB would need to be disconnected and reconnected. Still there are issues; +5v power pins. On some adapters, it's needed to discover what they are. Without movement on some joysticks, all pins are floating. Impossible to know what they are. Edited November 1, 2017 by Nitz1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 To me, your second option sounds ideal. A utility that, without flashing firmware, puts the adapter in different modes. Something that can be ported to Windows, Linux, Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Just received 2 of these adapters via eBay and then found this thread with the discount for AA members. Oh well. So I have questions about flashing. I am using a laptop with Windows 7 Ultimate and all fixes applied. Had to install 2005 Visual C++ to get past the side-by-side configuration error. Wish this were documented as a pre-req. So now I can run HIDBootFlash. With the default fields, it does not find the device. If I change the ProductID to what I find via Control Panel, then the device is found. However flashing never works. I have tried shorting the pins 6 and 8 and have also tried pressing keypad 6 on an attached Intellivision Flashback controller. When I select the firmware file and attempt to flash, it generates many many errors. Interesting the when the device is detected, the last two lines say Page Size: 0000 Device Size 000000000 The flashing errors begin with Data 32640 bytes exceeds remaining flash size! 0x00000...0x0080 Error Flashing device!!!! And these last 2 lines are repeated many times with different address ranges And finally Resetting device! Download failed!!!! The only controllers I have available to plug in are the Flashback controller or an Intellivision II controller. Can't say for sure that I got a great connection on pins 6 and 8. Is there a way to determine what firmware is currently installed? I did notice that in HIDBootFlash, in the firmware select box, it detects the first firmware listed in the directory from which HIDBootFlash is executed so this is not indicative of what is installed. Any help or suggestions is appreciated. My goal is to use this with RetroPie and also directly into a PC or Mac. Edited January 24, 2018 by rockstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Hello there, Flashing the adapter need to have something to maintain pin 6 and 8 together while plugging it into your machine. This trigger the bootflash process. The device will appear as HIDBOOT instead of the joystick adapter. Doing this without an Atari joystick can be a bit tricky so try to use a little wire or paperclip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Hi Nitz1976, thanks for the reply. I will say, once I saw that the developers of this adapter were active members on AA and I read this and other threads, it really boosted my confidence in the product. And being open source with schematics is fantastic and a great looking piece of hardware to boot. Yes, I suspect maybe the pins are not being shorted correctly even with 6 pressed on the Intellivision Flashback controller. I got rid of all of my serial port headers and pins years ago, so having trouble finding pins that fit this adapter. The ones I used for car stereos are too large. And there are no real electronics stores around, not even a Rat Shack anymore. Maybe I can find an old modem cable at a thrift store and cut it off. So if the pins are shorted, should I not have to change the ProductID to match what Device Manager shows ? I noticed that the two adapters have different ProductIDs. And is there any way to tell which firmware is currently flashed on the adapter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitz1976 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Yes. Shorting 6&8 at startup (when the adapter is connected to USB) is triggering it into bootloader mode thus changing it's product ID. Errors at the end of the programmation is normal. Bootblock section was intentionally locked to preserve the device from bricking in case of a manipulation error. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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