Light Guns and 100 HZ CRT tvs

[Gredler]

Thank you this is much more clear. I do not care for the TV to be HD because I have my HD tvs for that

 

Is component video the HD give away, or do I need to see "Hi-Scan" or "Super Fine Pitch" to determine if lightgun games will not work?

 

After reading this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FD_Trinitron/WEGA), it looks like if it's a sony it needs to be "Wega", that way I know it's not going to be Super Fine Pitch or High-Scan. Thanks for the info!

 

 

I was certain this was the TV I was getting, back to the drawing board I guess. So now my craigslist searching is limited to "wega" if they don't know model numbers. That wikipedia ad makes it pretty straight forward knowing not to pick a Hi-Scan or Super Fine Pitch model.

 

Are those terms specific to sony technologies, or should I know something else if considering other tvs? I am not sure what other brands to look at for CRTs. I love my samsung plasmas, and see a lot of hardcore guys using NEC monitors.

 

 

The XBR700 and 800 are Hi-scan Trinitron tubes and it's my understanding that the Hi-scan and Super Fine Pitch (HD) tubes don't work with light guns.
I own a Super Fine Pitch tube Sony and it doesn't work with light guns but I haven't tried a Hi-scan tube TV personally. I think you're going to have a
hard time finding a CRT TV that support HD and light guns.

I would asked the person selling the TV if you could test the TV to see if light gun games work.

The Sony KV-36XBR200, KV-36FV1 are 36" and should supports light guns.

Edited April 22, 2015 by Gredler

[F4LL3N]

As far as I am aware it really comes down to the refresh rate. 50 - 60 Hz is good for light guns, as well as a curved screen (rather than the flatter ones you get on some CRTs). The 100Hz and HD screens are too quick to track the lightguns.

[Gredler]

It sounds like a upscaling issue, that because of the upscaling there is a delay in response time between visuals and controllers, and with lightgun games that time is too close to be off. I am ok with going with a 640x480/320x240 tv if I have to.

 

I am currently looking at one that the guy wasn't sure about the model, the pic is on his posting http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/ele/4962830005.html I think that it is either a kv-36fv310 (https://docs.sony.com/release/KV36FV310.PDF) or if I am lucking it might be the KV-36FV1 (https://docs.sony.com/release/KV32FV1.pdf ) you had suggested lol, they look similar on the google search and documentation, so who knows. hopefully it works.

 

Someone else just got back to me on craigslist saying they have a KV-36XBR400 - Now I wonder if that would work too.. The price is right on that one. Nope! Thanks to this research, turns out that's another "High-Scan" so the resoltion will need to upscale and likely wont work. Back to betting on the KV-36FV

 

This wikipedia entry has a easy to reference table, so hopefully this all works out! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FD_Trinitron/WEGA

Edited April 22, 2015 by Gredler

[twoquickcapri]

Thank you this is much more clear. I do not care for the TV to be HD because I have my HD tvs for that

 

Is component video the HD give away, or do I need to see "Hi-Scan" or "Super Fine Pitch" to determine if lightgun games will not work?

Component video was available on SD TV so its not a give away. I have a Sony KV-20FS100 with a component input and it works fine with the Sega Saturn light gun.

[Gredler]

I found one today that is Sony KV-36FS10, looks like it's not high-scan and not super fine pitch, but is 480i with automatic 16:9 adjustments. I wonder if the 16:9 auto adjustments will make it not work with light guns.. I might ask if I can bring my master system and test some lightgun games on it before paying for it. he's asking a lot for it (Relatively, 150$, http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/ele/4973224920.html)

[johannesmutlu]

I tested my nes lightgun to see if the light gun/game accepts such latency,but guess what, even if i connect my dvd recorder between the nes and 50hz tv,it makes duckhunt unplayeble,however even if i connect a dvd recorder,rca to vga adaptor and a vga to rca adaptor in between the snes and 50hz tv, using the superscope,it still works,trough very unreliable,despites the average delay,i was astonished once played super scope 6 game,so i guess it also depends on the game and/or version of the game you play.

It may be possible that early versions of duckhunt can accept such delay while other version may first check for a black screen to avoid cheating with a light bulb and or delay, but don't know.