bfollett Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Slideshow: The History of the Desktop Operating System: Slide 8 is where the Atari OS gets covered. http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/oses-windows-dos-linux-unix,5-56.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wood_jl Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Cool article! Thanks for pointing to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yes, very nice to see TOS given credit. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlettkitten Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Good read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkman Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Slideshow: The History of the Desktop Operating System: Slide 8 is where the Atari OS gets covered. Pretty cool to see TOS included! But this statement struck me as a reach: TOS is also the origin point of some GUI ideas Apple would later use for its Mac OS operating system. I don't think Apple took any cues from the Atari ST. Most of their stuff was either original or inspired by work at Xerox PARC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 very cool indeed but odd they did now show the 1984 Mac desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 very cool indeed but odd they did now show the 1984 Mac desktop Agree. I found the late placement of the Mac in the timeline very odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christos Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Well, I don't know if Apple found any ideas in ST GEM and used it in their later projects but that statement is indeed odd. After all GEM was inspired by the Macintosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayreon Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I thought they (not Atari), but Xerox Pars worked on GEM like stuff long before Evil Bill and Plagiat Jobs had any constructive ideas for their GUI stuff. I have to see the documentary/movie (piraties of silicon valley) again in where they show how those 2 visited Xerox and copied the basic ideas there. Wether thats true or not. However I think they all stole ideas from each other and others and I wouldn't be surprised if they had a look at GEM as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetUK Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 My understanding was GEM was created by Xerox and Digital Research picked it up. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_Environment_Manager#section_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetUK Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Well, the prototype was done by Xerox, then the lead dev went to Digital Research and created GEM. That would be a law suit these days lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zogging Hell Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well, the prototype was done by Xerox, then the lead dev went to Digital Research and created GEM. That would be a law suit these days lol Good god, how exactly did Apple get away with suing DR for copying them then. Unbelievable cheeks from Jobs! (or at least good lawyers!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tresas Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Hi everybody, i wonder what advantages /disavantages had the Atari GEM/TOS vs MAC OS (Macintosh System 1.0 i think?) I never used a mac and i dont know many thinks... I wonder if the macs have the limited multitasking ability of desk accessories ? Edited March 17, 2013 by tresas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landondyer Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I don't think Apple took any cues from the Atari ST. Most of their stuff was either original or inspired by work at Xerox PARC. Correct. Both the DRI and Atari people working on TOS knew quite a bit about the Mac (through the Lisa, and early versions of Inside Macintosh). Some of the graphics development for the ST was initially done on Lisa systems. I bought a 128K Mac a couple weeks after it came out, a few months before the first TOS ROMs shipped. There was /zero/ feedback from Atari or DRI back to Apple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkman Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Correct. Both the DRI and Atari people working on TOS knew quite a bit about the Mac (through the Lisa, and early versions of Inside Macintosh). Some of the graphics development for the ST was initially done on Lisa systems. I bought a 128K Mac a couple weeks after it came out, a few months before the first TOS ROMs shipped. There was /zero/ feedback from Atari or DRI back to Apple. It was a treat to see you had replied to me! I'm a big fan of your blog, particularly your Atari and Apple anecdotes. I grew up on Atari STs given to my family as hand-me-downs and have always loved all things Atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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