TOS gets mentioned in article

[bfollett]

Slideshow: The History of the Desktop Operating System: Slide 8 is where the Atari OS gets covered. http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/oses-windows-dos-linux-unix,5-56.html

[+wood_jl]

Cool article! Thanks for pointing to it.

[+DarkLord]

Yes, very nice to see TOS given credit. Thanks.

[Scarlettkitten]

Good read

[Kirkman]

Slideshow: The History of the Desktop Operating System: Slide 8 is where the Atari OS gets covered.

 

Pretty cool to see TOS included!

 

But this statement struck me as a reach:

 

TOS is also the origin point of some GUI ideas Apple would later use for its Mac OS operating system.

 

I don't think Apple took any cues from the Atari ST. Most of their stuff was either original or inspired by work at Xerox PARC.

[tjlazer]

very cool indeed but odd they did now show the 1984 Mac desktop

[flashjazzcat]

very cool indeed but odd they did now show the 1984 Mac desktop

 

Agree. I found the late placement of the Mac in the timeline very odd.

[Christos]

Well, I don't know if Apple found any ideas in ST GEM and used it in their later projects but that statement is indeed odd. After all GEM was inspired by the Macintosh.

[Ayreon]

I thought they (not Atari), but Xerox Pars worked on GEM like stuff long before Evil Bill and Plagiat Jobs had any constructive ideas for their GUI stuff. I have to see the documentary/movie (piraties of silicon valley) again in where they show how those 2 visited Xerox and copied the basic ideas there. Wether thats true or not. However I think they all stole ideas from each other and others and I wouldn't be surprised if they had a look at GEM as well.

[GadgetUK]

My understanding was GEM was created by Xerox and Digital Research picked it up.

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_Environment_Manager#section_1

[GadgetUK]

Well, the prototype was done by Xerox, then the lead dev went to Digital Research and created GEM. That would be a law suit these days lol

[Zogging Hell]

Well, the prototype was done by Xerox, then the lead dev went to Digital Research and created GEM. That would be a law suit these days lol

 

Good god, how exactly did Apple get away with suing DR for copying them then. Unbelievable cheeks from Jobs! (or at least good lawyers!)

[tresas]

Hi everybody,

i wonder what advantages /disavantages had the Atari GEM/TOS vs MAC OS (Macintosh System 1.0 i think?)

I never used a mac and i dont know many thinks... I wonder if the macs have the limited multitasking ability of desk accessories ?

Edited March 17, 2013 by tresas

[landondyer]

I don't think Apple took any cues from the Atari ST. Most of their stuff was either original or inspired by work at Xerox PARC.

 

Correct. Both the DRI and Atari people working on TOS knew quite a bit about the Mac (through the Lisa, and early versions of Inside Macintosh). Some of the graphics development for the ST was initially done on Lisa systems. I bought a 128K Mac a couple weeks after it came out, a few months before the first TOS ROMs shipped.

 

There was /zero/ feedback from Atari or DRI back to Apple.

[Kirkman]

Correct. Both the DRI and Atari people working on TOS knew quite a bit about the Mac (through the Lisa, and early versions of Inside Macintosh). Some of the graphics development for the ST was initially done on Lisa systems. I bought a 128K Mac a couple weeks after it came out, a few months before the first TOS ROMs shipped.

 

There was /zero/ feedback from Atari or DRI back to Apple.

 

It was a treat to see you had replied to me! I'm a big fan of your blog, particularly your Atari and Apple anecdotes. I grew up on Atari STs given to my family as hand-me-downs and have always loved all things Atari.